COMMITTED UND Recruits

[hockeytherapy13]

Dalton Andrew with a 4-goal game. After watching those goals on Twitter, it’s pretty apparent that he’s not playing against opponents that are challenging him enough. Interested to see if he can break his way into the lineup next year, although I’m sure he knows he’s a depth guy. He’s got a heck of a shot but the game speed of D1 hockey be an eye opener for him. 

[Benny Baker]

11 minutes ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

 it’s pretty apparent that he’s not playing against opponents that are challenging him enough.

That’s part of my concern. Taylor Dickin also put up a few more points (92) than Andrew (82) in the MJHL, but after 2 seasons and 4 points, had to leave UND for Canadian college hockey. 

[iluvdebbies]

9 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

That’s part of my concern. Taylor Dickin also put up a few more points (92) than Andrew (82) in the MJHL, but after 2 seasons and 4 points, had to leave UND for Canadian college hockey. 

Now do Cole Smith.

[Benny Baker]

46 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said:

Now do Cole Smith.

Sure, here: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177758

Cole Smith’s story is awesome, no doubt. But he’s an exception, not the rule.  How many 60+ points players in MJHL routinely play in the NHL?

[Blackheart]

8 hours ago, Benny Baker said:

Sure, here: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177758

Cole Smith’s story is awesome, no doubt. But he’s an exception, not the rule.  How many 60+ points players in MJHL routinely play in the NHL?

Nobody worked harder than that guy.

[Sweethockey]

2 hours ago, Blackheart said:

Nobody worked harder than that guy.

He definitely set the bar.

[siouxkid12]

11 hours ago, Benny Baker said:

Sure, here: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177758

Cole Smith’s story is awesome, no doubt. But he’s an exception, not the rule.  How many 60+ points players in MJHL routinely play in the NHL?

Travis Zajac and Zach Whitecloud have had a pretty successful NHL career

[tnt]

8 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

Travis Zajac and Zach Whitecloud have had a pretty successful NHL career

Zajac played in the BCHL and I think that league doesn’t produce as much NHL talent as it used to, but it doesn’t mean you can’t have a nice college career or as some have pointed out, even move to the next level.

[skateshattrick]

2 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Travis Zajac and Zach Whitecloud have had a pretty successful NHL career

Ed Belfour played in the MJHL

[SuhakiYeahYeah]

[The Sicatoka]

Gaber played in the M before Dubuque. 

[AJS]

14 hours ago, Benny Baker said:

Sure, here: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177758

Cole Smith’s story is awesome, no doubt. But he’s an exception, not the rule.  How many 60+ points players in MJHL routinely play in the NHL?

@Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. 

[scpa0305]

3 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Travis Zajac and Zach Whitecloud have had a pretty successful NHL career

Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. 

I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. 

[scpa0305]

29 minutes ago, AJS said:

@Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. 

Exception…you mean complete outlier  

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. 

I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. 

I think Belfour was probably overlooked by the scouts of the time. Today, I don't think he would have been overlooked.

[scpa0305]

1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I think Belfour was probably overlooked by the scouts of the time. Today, I don't think he would have been overlooked.

Yeah, I’m sure they did. It was 38 years ago. Scouting is no perfect science…but the ability to scout via enhanced tech has drastically changed over that time span  

[tnt]

1 hour ago, AJS said:

@Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. 

The point is, this program would probably have 2-3 less National Championships without guys that came in with little fanfare and were exceptions, rather than the rule.  Two NCAA MVP’s were walk ons in Phil Sykes and Matt Henderson.  Not saying this guy can even crack the lineup, but you need guys that are willing to work hard and do what they are told.  Need more players that aren’t afraid to get dirty and go to the hard areas if for no other reason than to keep the guys that are in the lineup honest.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

He is clearly playing above his league right now and who are we to say what his ceiling is. He may be the next Matt Henderson. 

[siouxkid12]

4 hours ago, tnt said:

Zajac played in the BCHL and I think that league doesn’t produce as much NHL talent as it used to, but it doesn’t mean you can’t have a nice college career or as some have pointed out, even move to the next level.

Zajac played for the St. Johns Canadians in 01-02 before heading to the BCHL

[siouxkid12]

1 hour ago, scpa0305 said:

Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. 

I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. 

It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you.

[siouxkid12]

2 hours ago, skateshattrick said:

Ed Belfour played in the MJHL

I forgot Travis Hamonic...

[scpa0305]

36 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you.

Yessir you are absolutely correct. Many people are simply name dropping players who played in that league…tons of players have played in that league but most good players were very young, and played in a better league as they got older. This kid is old…right now. At 15-16 he was playing midget hockey, not juniors. 

I am too hoping we found a diamond in the rough, but I also have been following this long enough to know who this player “most likely” is. I’m out, I don’t like sounding negative about our commits, but I couldn’t stand watching this convo play out. 

[scpa0305]

7 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you.

That is not even remotely close to the point I was attempting to make 

[siouxkid12]

15 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

That is not even remotely close to the point I was attempting to make 

I'm sure not but its the point I am making. 

[scpa0305]

9 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

I'm sure not but its the point I am making. 

That there have been good players playing in the MJ? There’s been tons of great players that have played in that league. Many of the Manitoban Dub players played in the MJ before major juniors.