AJS Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 14 hours ago, Benny Baker said: Sure, here: https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177758 Cole Smith’s story is awesome, no doubt. But he’s an exception, not the rule. How many 60+ points players in MJHL routinely play in the NHL? @Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 hours ago, siouxkid12 said: Travis Zajac and Zach Whitecloud have had a pretty successful NHL career Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 29 minutes ago, AJS said: @Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. Exception…you mean complete outlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. I think Belfour was probably overlooked by the scouts of the time. Today, I don't think he would have been overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said: I think Belfour was probably overlooked by the scouts of the time. Today, I don't think he would have been overlooked. Yeah, I’m sure they did. It was 38 years ago. Scouting is no perfect science…but the ability to scout via enhanced tech has drastically changed over that time span 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, AJS said: @Benny Baker I've been there too. It's one of the many factors that makes this board almost unbearable. Unfortunately, if there is an exception, somebody will need to bring it up. The point is, this program would probably have 2-3 less National Championships without guys that came in with little fanfare and were exceptions, rather than the rule. Two NCAA MVP’s were walk ons in Phil Sykes and Matt Henderson. Not saying this guy can even crack the lineup, but you need guys that are willing to work hard and do what they are told. Need more players that aren’t afraid to get dirty and go to the hard areas if for no other reason than to keep the guys that are in the lineup honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 He is clearly playing above his league right now and who are we to say what his ceiling is. He may be the next Matt Henderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, tnt said: Zajac played in the BCHL and I think that league doesn’t produce as much NHL talent as it used to, but it doesn’t mean you can’t have a nice college career or as some have pointed out, even move to the next level. Zajac played for the St. Johns Canadians in 01-02 before heading to the BCHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 hour ago, scpa0305 said: Guys…everyone’s going off the rails here. The MJ is a fairly low level league, a click above high school hockey. Yes Eddie the eagle played in the league many moons ago. Yes some Toba boys played in the league when they were 15 and then moved on to a much better league. I too am hoping this kid pans out, but I’d also be blown away if he gets more than 5 games next year. It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, skateshattrick said: Ed Belfour played in the MJHL I forgot Travis Hamonic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 36 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you. Yessir you are absolutely correct. Many people are simply name dropping players who played in that league…tons of players have played in that league but most good players were very young, and played in a better league as they got older. This kid is old…right now. At 15-16 he was playing midget hockey, not juniors. I am too hoping we found a diamond in the rough, but I also have been following this long enough to know who this player “most likely” is. I’m out, I don’t like sounding negative about our commits, but I couldn’t stand watching this convo play out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: It doesn't matter how low level the league is, if you are talented and hungry enough they will find you. That is not even remotely close to the point I was attempting to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 15 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: That is not even remotely close to the point I was attempting to make I'm sure not but its the point I am making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 9 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: I'm sure not but its the point I am making. That there have been good players playing in the MJ? There’s been tons of great players that have played in that league. Many of the Manitoban Dub players played in the MJ before major juniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, scpa0305 said: That there have been good players playing in the MJ? There’s been tons of great players that have played in that league. Many of the Manitoban Dub players played in the MJ before major juniors. No, my point is it doesn't matter where you play, scouts will find you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Fact of Life--Kids develop and reach their potential at different rates. I know of many players who while their game wasn't mature yet, they made mature decisions and did not let ego get in the way of the big picture. for example sometimes it means choosing a team in the NAHL even though you had earned a spot in the USHL...spot as 6 or 7th d-man vs. top pair defenseman on #1 penalty kill and power play unit....which is better for your development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scpa0305 Posted May 10 Popular Post Share Posted May 10 Mac Swanson…USHL forward of the year yesterday…player of the year today. Huge accomplishments. Not sure why we aren’t talking about him 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 59 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Mac Swanson…USHL forward of the year yesterday…player of the year today. Huge accomplishments. Not sure why we aren’t talking about him UND leading scorer this upcoming year? That said, I’d like to see nice jumps from OMac, Perron, and Berg next season. Those three could lead this team offensively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Dustin Penner was a success story at Bottineau and beyond, but didn’t he fail several times to get on the roster of Manitoba junior teams? I understand his late physical maturation partially explained his out-of-nowhere progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, brianvf said: UND leading scorer this upcoming year? That said, I’d like to see nice jumps from OMac, Perron, and Berg next season. Those three could lead this team offensively. I would be a bit shocked if Berg out produced this past year. Omac may do a bit better but having Blake on his wing was huge. Perron will make a huge jump next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweethockey Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 33 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I would be a bit shocked if Berg out produced this past year. Omac may do a bit better but having Blake on his wing was huge. Perron will make a huge jump next year. James will be a force to deal with. Mac could have a really high ceiling with the right chemistry (line mates) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND85 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Dalton Andrew got 4 goals in game 1 at the Centennial Cup in Oakville Ontario playing for the Canadian championship. Score was 4-2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Sweethockey said: James will be a force to deal with. Mac could have a really high ceiling with the right chemistry (line mates) Shoot forgot James in my list of players to make a nice step next season. Get him into the top 6 with some high end talent and he’ll shine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Coltyn Sanderson came from a similar league, earned a consistent role as a senior and scored one of my all time favorite goals against Michigan with the drop-tip. I hope to look back at this guy with a fond memory too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scpa0305 Posted May 11 Popular Post Share Posted May 11 12 hours ago, Sweethockey said: James will be a force to deal with. Mac could have a really high ceiling with the right chemistry (line mates) I’m actually thinking Strinden could have a solid year if given an offensive role. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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