HockeyHawk Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 41 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Someone that works for UND athletics/at the Ralph was telling me last summer how the women's soccer team has such an advantage in recruiting due to their locker room & facilities being at The Ralph. That they get players that they probably shouldn't just because they come on their visit and are blown away. After getting a tour of The Ralph/their facilities they say they have to come here. I don't think there can really be much of a complaint about the Ralph but has anyone seen that field? They have a shed for a press box and there is nowhere for the 25 people that show up to even sit. From what I remember when women's hockey was cut soccer was put in the Ralph to balance hockey for title 9. If you compare where the hockey team play to where the soccer team play I think there is probably some type of equity argument. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 26 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: I don't think there can really be much of a complaint about the Ralph but has anyone seen that field? They have a shed for a press box and there is nowhere for the 25 people that show up to even sit. From what I remember when women's hockey was cut soccer was put in the Ralph to balance hockey for title 9. If you compare where the hockey team play to where the soccer team play I think there is probably some type of equity argument. How much revenue does soccer generate at the gate? maybe they should have a parent step up like softball and donate 2.5 mill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 6 minutes ago, gfhockey said: How much revenue does soccer generate at the gate? maybe they should have a parent step up like softball and donate 2.5 mill The idea that every single program must be self-sustaining is nonsense. That is not how college athletics is funded.......anywhere. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 11 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: The idea that every single program must be self-sustaining is nonsense. That is not how college athletics is funded.......anywhere. Never said it had to be self funded. Just asked how much revenue it generates at the gate simple question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 minute ago, gfhockey said: Never said it had to be self funded. Just asked how much revenue it generates at the gate simple question Not all programs generate revenue. If you are lucky, you'll have more than one program make a profit. Simple Answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 So, the complaints are: 1) Need bathroom facilities at Bronson Field 2) Need a trainer available during games. 3) Cut the grass shorter. Recent Improvements: 1) Resodding Bronson Field 2) Laying infrastructure (fiber) for game broadcasts. 3) Fencing around Bronson Field Here is a link to the soccer facilities: https://fightinghawks.com/watch/?Archive=7672&type=Archive It seems like a nice setup. Cut the grass, schedule a trainer for games and work on potential small set of stands with bathrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/und-womens-soccer-players-voicing-concerns-regarding-facility-equality complaining about a new field and the realph maybe we just cut it and not have the headache and money loss The Complaints seem to be valid. The fact they play on a grass field with temporary seating is embarrassing. A new field should have been worked into the Memorial Stadium Project. Seems like they are in need of a benefactor similar to what Softball got with their new Field. I'm not a title 9 expert, but seems like they need to be given the same access to facilities at the Ralph to be compliant. Also the fact they have a doctor "on Call" for games is ridiculous. There should a doctor there for the entire game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 21 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Not all programs generate revenue. If you are lucky, you'll have more than one program make a profit. Simple Answer. So zero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Will they win more if they have a dr on site or they holding back due to fear of injury 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Bronson Field is the worst soccer field in the Summit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 16 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Will they win more if they have a dr on site or they holding back due to fear of injury Other than men's hockey there is not a tougher team on campus. Women's soccer is brutally physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 36 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So zero? Yeah, zero. Welcome to the world of most college athletic programs. This isn't MLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 10 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Bronson Field is the worst soccer field in the Summit. Didn't they shut it down for a year and redo the field 4 or 5 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, HockeyHawk said: I don't think there can really be much of a complaint about the Ralph but has anyone seen that field? They have a shed for a press box and there is nowhere for the 25 people that show up to even sit. From what I remember when women's hockey was cut soccer was put in the Ralph to balance hockey for title 9. If you compare where the hockey team play to where the soccer team play I think there is probably some type of equity argument. Are you using hockey as a comparison for soccer? Really? Good luck with that Title IX defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 43 minutes ago, FSSD said: Didn't they shut it down for a year and redo the field 4 or 5 years ago? Yes. Still trash. It's grass. In ND. In the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Yes. Still trash. It's grass. In ND. In the fall. Well who’s head of athletics facilities? Is it the same guy who screwed up the Betty? why didn’t they turf it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Since college sports is all about money, should Title 9 just be put in the trash heap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 8 hours ago, Big Green said: The Complaints seem to be valid. The fact they play on a grass field with temporary seating is embarrassing. A new field should have been worked into the Memorial Stadium Project. Seems like they are in need of a benefactor similar to what Softball got with their new Field. I'm not a title 9 expert, but seems like they need to be given the same access to facilities at the Ralph to be compliant. Also the fact they have a doctor "on Call" for games is ridiculous. There should a doctor there for the entire game. Grass is a problem? Ever watched the World Cup? Premier league? La Liga? Do you know anything about soccer at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Grass is a problem? Ever watched the World Cup? Premier league? La Liga? Do you know anything about soccer at all? It is if they aren’t cutting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 22 hours ago, FSSD said: Recent Improvements: 1) Resodding Bronson Field 2) Laying infrastructure (fiber) for game broadcasts. 3) Fencing around Bronson Field Here is a link to the soccer facilities: https://fightinghawks.com/watch/?Archive=7672&type=Archive It seems like a nice setup. Cut the grass, schedule a trainer for games and work on potential small set of stands with bathrooms. So the basically minimum? Gave the soccer team a level playing Field with grass and a fence to keep the ball from going into the street like elementary schools have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 26 minutes ago, Cratter said: So the basically minimum? Gave the soccer team a level playing Field with grass and a fence to keep the ball from going into the street like elementary schools have. If there is a program that deserves University funds for a brand new field it’s certainly Soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 14 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Grass is a problem? Ever watched the World Cup? Premier league? La Liga? Do you know anything about soccer at all? 14 hours ago, Big Green said: It is if they aren’t cutting it. So use a simply analogy you both can understand on grass fields.... Bronson Field = late 70s porn star Premier League/World Cup = Top 1% OnlyFans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 54 minutes ago, UND1983 said: If there is a program that deserves University funds for a brand new field it’s certainly Soccer. Not even a new field, just some small upgrades: A small concrete building with a bathrooms, some GameDay lockers, with a cool lighted sign on the side "home of UND Soccer" other outside, small bleacher for fans, and maybe some of those curved wind protections "dugouts." Athletic trainer at the games. Small cheap stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Not even a new field, just some small upgrades: A small concrete building with a bathroom, some GameDay lockers, with a cool lighted sign on the side "home of UND Soccer," small bleacher for fans, and maybe some of those curved wind protections "dugouts." Athletic trainer at the games. Small cheap stuff. I would agree there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 On 10/18/2024 at 2:43 PM, Oxbow6 said: Yes. Still trash. It's grass. In ND. In the fall. Soccer players don’t like playing on artificial turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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