NCAA seeding

[brucespook]

Exactly,  want a favorable spot then win a quarter final and get ranked higher.  
crybabies

[Kevin G]

On easterners’ perspective of the geography of the US, it happens to be the 50th anniversary of this brilliant magazine cover.

[ND_Texan]

2 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Met a girl at a Colorado College house party in 2005 that legitimately asked me if we had electricity in North Dakota. 

You should have said "of course, how else would we find our way to the outhouse in the dark?"

[petey23]

2 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Met a girl at a Colorado College house party in 2005 that legitimately asked me if we had electricity in North Dakota. 

My dad was at meetings in Chciago in mid 90's and a lady asked him how he got to Chicago.

Covered Wagon to Minneapolis and the train from there.....she nodded.

[burd]

We’ve had a number of foreign exchange students over the years from places like Thailand, Brazil, Turkey, and Sweden.   I was often embarrassed by the amount of ignorance some folks in southern Wisconsin showed about other parts of the world, especially as to things like education, architecture, and modern technology.   Most of us Nodaks have been on the receiving end of that kind of thinking. 

[yzerman19]

lotta millionaires in a very small population

[ubish]

21 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

When do they import the Italian marble floors?

unfortunately plywood is now the same price per square foot as imported italian marble was when you guys built the ralph. 

Also, someone mentioned you can't host in your home barn, but I believe that rule only counts if it's on campus.  Technically, ours is off campus (less than a mile) and so i'd imaging we could host a regional there. 

[cberkas]

3 minutes ago, ubish said:

unfortunately plywood is now the same price per square foot as imported italian marble was when you guys built the ralph. 

Also, someone mentioned you can't host in your home barn, but I believe that rule only counts if it's on campus.  Technically, ours is off campus (less than a mile) and so i'd imaging we could host a regional there. 

I’d say yes and no. I’ll have to check but I think AIC hosted at the AHL arena they played in or the regional was there in Springfield. 

Just bid the arena and see what happens, that’s what the schools in the West should be doing. If Denver, UND, Omaha, and Augustana just don’t bid USHL/AHL arenas what is the committee going to do. 

[petey23]

15 minutes ago, ubish said:

unfortunately plywood is now the same price per square foot as imported italian marble was when you guys built the ralph. 

Also, someone mentioned you can't host in your home barn, but I believe that rule only counts if it's on campus.  Technically, ours is off campus (less than a mile) and so i'd imaging we could host a regional there. 

I don't think that loophole would work....but if no one else puts in a competing bid then you can. UND has hosted at the Ralph before and I believe Notre Dame may have hosted once as well.

[Big Green]

6 minutes ago, petey23 said:

I don't think that loophole would work....but if no one else puts in a competing bid then you can. UND has hosted at the Ralph before and I believe Notre Dame may have hosted once as well.

UND hosted at the Ralph when teams were allowed to.  Notre Dame hosted because no one else put a bid in and the NCAA had not other choice.  

It has been said and I agree.  All Western teams that want to host need to submit a bid to host in their own arena.  Make that the only choice, until the east comes around and gets on board with #1 Seeds hosting.  Teams like UNO, UND and Denver have been bailing the NCAA out by submitting bids in Fargo, Loveland, and Sioux Falls.

 

[ubish]

7 minutes ago, Big Green said:

UND hosted at the Ralph when teams were allowed to.  Notre Dame hosted because no one else put a bid in and the NCAA had not other choice.  

It has been said and I agree.  All Western teams that want to host need to submit a bid to host in their own arena.  Make that the only choice, until the east comes around and gets on board with #1 Seeds hosting.  Teams like UNO, UND and Denver have been bailing the NCAA out by submitting bids in Fargo, Loveland, and Sioux Falls.

 

They would just select 4 eastern teams as hosts.  

[Big Green]

7 minutes ago, ubish said:

They would just select 4 eastern teams as hosts.  

Maybe.  I don't know that enough Eastern teams are bidding.  It's a chance I would take.  At least try for 1 round of bids.

 

 

[Dustin]

14 minutes ago, ubish said:

They would just select 4 eastern teams as hosts.  

 

5 minutes ago, Big Green said:

Maybe.  I don't know that enough Eastern teams are bidding.  It's a chance I would take.  At least try for 1 round of bids.

 

 

It would be interesting to see who calls who's bluff.  Would the committee just award 4 regionals to the 4 eastern teams/conferences, or would they award a campus site in the west due to lack of alternative bids?  I agree, it would be worth it for a round of bids just to see what happens.

[cberkas]

Not sure if they still do it, UND would bid the REA and Fargo together TJ see if they would give it to the REA

[brianvf]

CHN "Experts" Pick 'em:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/picksRegionals.php

Every single one picked MSU out of their regional.
All but one picked Michigan out of their regional.
Only one picked WMU, most of the rest went DU with one MSUM.

UND gets 5 of 9 picks, with the rest going Providence.
McMahon is the only one picking Mack over UND in 1st round.

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, brianvf said:

CHN "Experts" Pick 'em:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/picksRegionals.php

Every single one picked MSU out of their regional.
All but one picked Michigan out of their regional.
Only one picked WMU, most of the rest went DU with one MSUM.

UND gets 5 of 9 picks, with the rest going Providence.
McMahon is the only one picking Mack over UND in 1st round.

Given how unpredictable this tournament is, I imagine you could do just as well throwing darts at a board. 😂 

[TwamleyShuffle]

41 minutes ago, brianvf said:

CHN "Experts" Pick 'em:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/picksRegionals.php

Every single one picked MSU out of their regional.
All but one picked Michigan out of their regional.
Only one picked WMU, most of the rest went DU with one MSUM.

UND gets 5 of 9 picks, with the rest going Providence.
McMahon is the only one picking Mack over UND in 1st round.

Most of the people who picked UND to not win the regional were also people who didn’t get a lot of picks right last year. So we should be good fam. It won’t necessarily be easy, but it’s doable

[Dustin]

I listened to part of the CHN podcast this week, first time having ever done so.  

CHN On the Air, Including the CHN Insiders Podcast, and Hockey on Campus Radio Show on Sirius XM : College Hockey News

Of course, they were talking about many of the same things we've been talking about regarding the regional format, seeding via the NPI, etc, etc.  I learned quite a bit and thought about things I hadn't thought about before.

When the topic came to home regionals, they were talking that ESPN wouldn't go for that because they'd have to send 8 crews.  So, each higher seed would host a game?  I was always assuming 4-team regionals, like they are now.  Have I been misunderstanding what people have been calling "home regionals"?

And another aside, if ESPN wants to send fewer crews out, that sounds like a perfect set-up for my "Super Regional" idea.  I think that would also generate excitement, have good optics, and be good for the game.

[WiSioux]

1 hour ago, brianvf said:

CHN "Experts" Pick 'em:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/ncaa/picksRegionals.php

Every single one picked MSU out of their regional.
All but one picked Michigan out of their regional.
Only one picked WMU, most of the rest went DU with one MSUM.

UND gets 5 of 9 picks, with the rest going Providence.
McMahon is the only one picking Mack over UND in 1st round.

Who the heck are these "experts"? Half of them don't even look like they know what hockey is....

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

14 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I listened to part of the CHN podcast this week, first time having ever done so.  

CHN On the Air, Including the CHN Insiders Podcast, and Hockey on Campus Radio Show on Sirius XM : College Hockey News

Of course, they were talking about many of the same things we've been talking about regarding the regional format, seeding via the NPI, etc, etc.  I learned quite a bit and thought about things I hadn't thought about before.

When the topic came to home regionals, they were talking that ESPN wouldn't go for that because they'd have to send 8 crews.  So, each higher seed would host a game?  I was always assuming 4-team regionals, like they are now.  Have I been misunderstanding what people have been calling "home regionals"?

And another aside, if ESPN wants to send fewer crews out, that sounds like a perfect set-up for my "Super Regional" idea.  I think that would also generate excitement, have good optics, and be good for the game.

You can't have a 4 team situation at home sites for the NCAA tournament for the same reason you can't for conference tournaments. Anytime the host gets beat in the first round the attendance is dismal for the second round. Going to home sites means three consecutive weeks of the tournament.

The alternative is to go back to allowing bidding with campus arenas and keep the 4 regionals. But then it's #1 seed eastern school coming to the Ralph to play #3 seed UND, which is what they are really against but won't admit.

[Dustin]

31 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

You can't have a 4 team situation at home sites for the NCAA tournament for the same reason you can't for conference tournaments. Anytime the host gets beat in the first round the attendance is dismal for the second round. Going to home sites means three consecutive weeks of the tournament.

I get the low attendance for the game(s) when the host isn't playing, but how it that any different from hosting a 4-team regional the old way?

[.357]

35 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

You can't have a 4 team situation at home sites for the NCAA tournament for the same reason you can't for conference tournaments. Anytime the host gets beat in the first round the attendance is dismal for the second round. Going to home sites means three consecutive weeks of the tournament.

The alternative is to go back to allowing bidding with campus arenas and keep the 4 regionals. But then it's #1 seed eastern school coming to the Ralph to play #3 seed UND, which is what they are really against but won't admit.

Which scenario is David Carle advocating for?

 

[cberkas]

17 minutes ago, .357 said:

Which scenario is David Carle advocating for?

 

Last time it was top 8 host bottom 8, before that top 4 host and home sites.

[108498]

Who should we cheer for out of the Loveland Regional? Its hard seeing anyone upsetting Denver.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

50 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I get the low attendance for the game(s) when the host isn't playing, but how it that any different from hosting a 4-team regional the old way?

Because the host isn't necessarily the number 1 seed and may not be in the tournament even.