2025 UND football

[Und Princess]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

With all due respect, until recently, there wasn't much to be positive about regarding UND athletics. But Jackson, Hutter and Schmidt have injected some positivity and enthusiasm to our fan base and this forum in general. The issue of payouts from FBS money games is an important one and does not fall under the category of "bitching".

I'll give Chaves this, he's way better than Buning was at negotiating contracts.

And probably better than Faison at negotiations 

[Kab]

2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

With all due respect, until recently, there wasn't much to be positive about regarding UND athletics. But Jackson, Hutter and Schmidt have injected some positivity and enthusiasm to our fan base and this forum in general. The issue of payouts from FBS money games is an important one and does not fall under the category of "bitching".

I'll give Chaves this, he's way better than Buning was at negotiating contracts.

Like buning  allowing a $25000 buyout when Idaho state backed out of a football game 

[jdub27]

2 hours ago, FSSD said:

I don't have a real problem with the payout if the game was played in 2020.  But, the game was pushed and UND signed the new contract in 2021 when they knew the going rate was $550 to $575.  They left money on the table, why? 

No clue. There are plenty of easier teams than those from the MVFC or Big Sky that P4 teams can schedule but the FCS teams want to play as regional as they can for recruiting and fan purposes. I'm sure there is value in that from the FCS side. Without seeing the contracts, who knows if they are even apples to apples?

If it was that simple, why did NDSU agree to only $25K more that they would have got 8 years prior (2020 vs 2028), but still $5K less than Montana State is getting this season when the OU/MSU contract was signed a year before NDSU renegotiated? Shouldn't NDSU have been able to get more for a 2028 game since they knew the "going rate" for a 2025 game?

Looks like both USD (ISU) and SDSU (Nebraska) didn't reschedule their FBS games for 2020, however there were already future meetings scheduled between both of them. MSU (Utah) also looked like they lost their FBS games from that year without rescheduling and I don't think UM had one scheduled.

Again, this seems like a stretch to be upset about but whatever I guess. 

[nodak651]

On 5/21/2025 at 2:33 PM, Dustin said:

The closest thing to a "double header" is Nov. 21-22, with an exhibition hockey game Friday night and football Saturday afternoon.  Depending on how far UND goes in the football playoffs, there would be potential for football/hockey double headers in late November and December.

Looks like the REA also schedule a concert the night of the Youngstown game.

[GoodGood]

Chavez taking the easy way out. Never would've thought he was the type 

[CMSioux]

18 hours ago, UND1983 said:

How many are bus trips?  Like USD getting 575k to bus to Ames.  The fact this was never renegotiated is astounding.  

I hesitate to keep this thread going but isn't it possible KState is paying for UNDs transportation and accommodations?

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

I hesitate to keep this thread going but isn't it possible KState is paying for UNDs transportation and accommodations?

So you feel they are paying for something over and above what the contracts states, with public money?

[MoSiouxFan]

36 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

So you feel they are paying for something over and above what the contracts states, with public money?

I think that he was asking and not saying.

[UND-FB-FAN]

21 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

This should go under the ol everyone is bored and doesn’t have enough real problems list. UND fans and people from Grand Forks in general are always looking for any excuse to bitch. 

 

21 hours ago, Und Princess said:

So true. I've seen it alot especially when teams were losing. People would complain about coaching. Sometimes it's the players that need to take charge and run with it. 

Ignorance is bliss. Oh, and coaching matters (by the way, they do the recruiting in collegiate athletics). This isn’t tee-ball. Just look at the overhaul in UND hockey and football recruiting and player management over the past 6 months … coincidence that coaches changed also? No.

[fightingsioux4life]

26 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Ignorance is bliss. Oh, and coaching matters (by the way, they do the recruiting in collegiate athletics). This isn’t tee-ball. Just look at the overhaul in UND hockey and football recruiting and player management over the past 6 months … coincidence that coaches changed also? No.

They also decide who gets to be on the team or not, who starts or not and who gets playing time or not. The team you ultimately end up with is on the coaching staff. Not on the team captains.

[CMSioux]

2 hours ago, UND1983 said:

So you feel they are paying for something over and above what the contracts states, with public money?

My point was it's not uncommon for a host team to pay for additional expenses above the game guarantee. Not saying it happened but it does. 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2025-preseason-top-25-bzbz/
 

 

[Und Princess]

18 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2025-preseason-top-25-bzbz/
 

 

We deserve to be high on the list!!! Let's show the FCS we're the BEST North Dakota School!!! Let's Go Hawks!!! 💚🖤🤍

[siouxfan512]

18 minutes ago, Und Princess said:

We deserve to be high on the list!!! Let's show the FCS we're the BEST North Dakota School!!! Let's Go Hawks!!! 💚🖤🤍

In no way, shape or form do we deserve to be on that list. Though I think we have the potential to be on that list. Our schedule won't do us any favors in terms of climbing that list quickly, but to be the best, you have to beat the best, and UND will certainly have ample opportunity to make headway in that area, but it won't be easy.

Hopefully Schmidt get them going and gets them going quick! I can say with confidence that if UND can keep some of those big games close, I have far more confidence in someone like Schmidt than I do Bubba. I just think he will bring more energy and preparation to the team than Bubba ever did.

I guess we will see.

[Und Princess]

1 minute ago, siouxfan512 said:

In no way, shape or form do we deserve to be on that list. Though I think we have the potential to be on that list. Our schedule won't do us any favors in terms of climbing that list quickly, but to be the best, you have to beat the best, and UND will certainly have ample opportunity to make headway in that area, but it won't be easy.

Hopefully Schmidt get them going and gets them going quick! I can say with confidence that if UND can keep some of those big games close, I have far more confidence in someone like Schmidt than I do Bubba. I just think he will bring more energy and preparation to the team than Bubba ever did.

I guess we will see.

I'm just a big Hawks fan!!! And I want Greatness!!! We have a lot players coming in that are coming from big time football schools like ASU!!!

[siouxfan512]

1 minute ago, Und Princess said:

I'm just a big Hawks fan!!! And I want Greatness!!! We have a lot players coming in that are coming from big time football schools like ASU!!!

I'm hopeful and cautiously optimistic. I think the offense will get going and can hopefully gel quickly. I'm a little concerned about D unless we can add a few more pieces, but maybe Schmidt can do a better job with what he has than Bubba could.

[Und Princess]

5 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

I'm hopeful and cautiously optimistic. I think the offense will get going and can hopefully gel quickly. I'm a little concerned about D unless we can add a few more pieces, but maybe Schmidt can do a better job with what he has than Bubba could.

I agree with you!!!

[Sioux94]

1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said:

 

Hopefully Schmidt get them going and gets them going quick! I can say with confidence that if UND can keep some of those big games close, I have far more confidence in someone like Schmidt than I do Bubba. I just think he will bring more energy and preparation to the team than Bubba ever did.

 

A big difference for me between Bubba and Schmidt, for the most part I'd say we had almost no chance to pull a big upset on the road under Bubba. Heck, we had a hard time beating teams with losing records on the road. 

With Schmidt I'd say their is a realistic chance we could win each game we go into, whether home or away. Not saying we will win them all, but I think if things go our way I think we could win and pull off  more upsets on the road.

Adjusting to new defensive scheme in those big games early in the year though, is going to make it a little tougher. We'll see if we have a #1 QB that is ready to go and lead us starting at game 1, hope so!

[Nodak78]

1 hour ago, Sioux94 said:

A big difference for me between Bubba and Schmidt, for the most part I'd say we had almost no chance to pull a big upset on the road under Bubba. Heck, we had a hard time beating teams with losing records on the road. 

With Schmidt I'd say their is a realistic chance we could win each game we go into, whether home or away. Not saying we will win them all, but I think if things go our way I think we could win and pull off  more upsets on the road.

Adjusting to new defensive scheme in those big games early in the year though, is going to make it a little tougher. We'll see if we have a #1 QB that is ready to go and lead us starting at game 1, hope so!

agree.  Much more optimistic in tight games and keeping games tight.

[teamsioux]

[Sioux>Bison]

20 hours ago, siouxfan512 said:

In no way, shape or form do we deserve to be on that list. Though I think we have the potential to be on that list. Our schedule won't do us any favors in terms of climbing that list quickly, but to be the best, you have to beat the best, and UND will certainly have ample opportunity to make headway in that area, but it won't be easy.

Hopefully Schmidt get them going and gets them going quick! I can say with confidence that if UND can keep some of those big games close, I have far more confidence in someone like Schmidt than I do Bubba. I just think he will bring more energy and preparation to the team than Bubba ever did.

I guess we will see.

I mean outside of the MVFC and Big Sky who really deserves to be on the list? Southern Illinois deserves to be on this list?

[siouxfan512]

21 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

I mean outside of the MVFC and Big Sky who really deserves to be on the list? Southern Illinois deserves to be on this list?

Can't even say I looked that closely at the list. I'm just not prepared to say we do belong on it because I am a fan or because I see a ton of potential in this team. To deserve something, you better earn it, and this team hasn't earned anything yet.

Let's looks at last year:

- Played tough against Iowa State, but lost

-Nice win against Montana

-Ended the season with 5 straight losses including Youngstown and Indiana State.

 

5-7 never deserves to be in the discussion for top 25 (unless maybe you are UNI). They dug a big hole, now they have to get out of it. I for one absolutely think they can get it done and that it doesn't all need to happen in the first season. There are some exciting things happening with recruiting, facilities, etc. But nobody is putting a poll together based on the potential of a 5-7 team with a new coach (unless maybe its coach prime 😂)

 

In general, I would say, polls don't matter anyway ... except that where you start makes it tough to move up, but if you win some key games ... nothing is off the table. I'm just excited for camp to get going so we can hear how some of these guys are looking, especially at QB.

[fightingsioux4life]

44 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

In general, I would say, polls don't matter anyway ... except that where you start makes it tough to move up, but if you win some key games ... nothing is off the table. I'm just excited for camp to get going so we can hear how some of these guys are looking, especially at QB.

I think we'll have some bumps in the road and some growing pains with a new coaching staff, new defense and new portal additions on the roster. But I also think we'll get better as the season goes on and might pull off a couple of upsets in the process.

[homer]

1 hour ago, teamsioux said:

Like seeing it on ESPN+

[gundy1124]

12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I think we'll have some bumps in the road and some growing pains with a new coaching staff, new defense and new portal additions on the roster. But I also think we'll get better as the season goes on and might pull off a couple of upsets in the process.

"Some bumps" is just fine, just can't play D like.......