Big Green Posted November 13 Posted November 13 55 minutes ago, Dustin said: As a UND fan with his eyes on the future, what is the preferred outcome? I've been thinking losses to help revamp the coaching staff. What else do we stand to lose by losing? Maybe a better question is what do we stand to gain from winning? As a UND fan a win is always the preferred outcome. Like it or not Bubba is not going anywhere after this year. While I don't like where the program is at right now and wish Bubba was not given an extension last year, way more damage is done by the team finishing the season on a 5 game losing streak. Losing organizations get used to losing and winning organization get used to winning. It is not like Pro sports when you get a higher draft pick. Losing leads to poor recruiting classes and good players leaving. I'll be rooting for UND to win the last 2 weeks and hope corrections are made in the offseason. i.e. get rid of Chaves and replace the DC. Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 18 minutes ago, Big Green said: As a UND fan a win is always the preferred outcome. Like it or not Bubba is not going anywhere after this year. While I don't like where the program is at right now and wish Bubba was not given an extension last year, way more damage is done by the team finishing the season on a 5 game losing streak. Losing organizations get used to losing and winning organization get used to winning. It is not like Pro sports when you get a higher draft pick. Losing leads to poor recruiting classes and good players leaving. I'll be rooting for UND to win the last 2 weeks and hope corrections are made in the offseason. i.e. get rid of Chaves and replace the DC. News flash…… this organization under Bubba is already used to losing. Hence his road record and overall .500 record. 2 more losses to end the season isn’t going to make us go any lower. If anything it causes Bubba to leave and we actually get better. 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 My biggest disappointment is having watched Bo playing in this mess this season. One of the top 5 at his position since I have watched UND FB. He deserved better. 1 8 Quote
Popular Post UND08 Posted November 13 Popular Post Posted November 13 36 minutes ago, Big Green said: As a UND fan a win is always the preferred outcome. Like it or not Bubba is not going anywhere after this year. While I don't like where the program is at right now and wish Bubba was not given an extension last year, way more damage is done by the team finishing the season on a 5 game losing streak. Losing organizations get used to losing and winning organization get used to winning. It is not like Pro sports when you get a higher draft pick. Losing leads to poor recruiting classes and good players leaving. I'll be rooting for UND to win the last 2 weeks and hope corrections are made in the offseason. i.e. get rid of Chaves and replace the DC. I mean in theory I agree with what you're saying... But that ship has sailed... This program is what it is...and if Bubba isn't going anywhere next year they're going to have a heck of a time selling tickets or drumming up any excitement for the program. Whatever it takes to drive change...I'm there. I hate that it affects human beings...but it is what it is at this point as a D1 program. There's no joy in any of this... Ideally Bubba moves to fundraising (to reflect his loyalty to the University) and Chaves is sent packing in my book. I doubt that happens...but until it does my interest in the program is very casual... 5 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 2 ways bubba can do this....run the same 22 guys out there and get blown out or mix in some other guys on offense and defense and see how talented/hungry they are and see what happens... got nothing to lose 1 Quote
NDRA Posted November 13 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, AJS said: Based on the past, one or two will flip before signing day. Those recruits have always "upgraded". Honestly, not sure if many others would. You would think so, but also, is there room at "like" places? I don't think anyone would decommit to downgrade the school. I think there's a fairly united front on this. The only thing that matters for this program is Bubba is no longer the coach. Anything residual (players leaving via portal, decommitting) is fine. Ideally, Bubba will step into another role within the athletic department after this year and the talent will stay. Note: I do realize how gross this really is. Hate that it had to come to this. Equal blame on Chaves as well as Bubba. Agree. Was told that many of the commits did not have other FCS offers so I'm doubting that they would decommit to go DII. As far as other offers, I'm just going by what others posters have said here. Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 All so sad hasn’t been fun especially lately round and round we go nowhere Quote
UND1983 Posted November 13 Posted November 13 2 hours ago, Hawkster said: So how many recruits flip by signing day and do more leave if Bubba leaves? That's assuming other teams want them Quote
Big Green Posted November 13 Posted November 13 51 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: News flash…… this organization under Bubba is already used to losing. Hence his road record and overall .500 record. 2 more losses to end the season isn’t going to make us go any lower. If anything it causes Bubba to leave and we actually get better. .500 Record is neither winning or Losing. Right in the middle. Win Last 2 games they are a winning program this year. Lose both they are a losing program. Losing the last 2 is not going to do anything to change the HC for next year and probably the year after. Mind as will win the last 2 and if we missing the playoffs at least the players will have a good feeling going into the offseason. Quote
shep Posted November 13 Posted November 13 4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Constipation? I thought so but it turned out to be hemorrhoids TMI? Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 The more I hear about South Dakota the less encouraged I get. They sound loaded. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 14 Posted November 14 3 hours ago, Big Green said: As a UND fan a win is always the preferred outcome. Like it or not Bubba is not going anywhere after this year. While I don't like where the program is at right now and wish Bubba was not given an extension last year, way more damage is done by the team finishing the season on a 5 game losing streak. Losing organizations get used to losing and winning organization get used to winning. It is not like Pro sports when you get a higher draft pick. Losing leads to poor recruiting classes and good players leaving. I'll be rooting for UND to win the last 2 weeks and hope corrections are made in the offseason. i.e. get rid of Chaves and replace the DC. It’s complete blasphemy and apathy at this point… but I (always) hope UND wins. The extension to Bubba occurred despite at least a year plus of banter that no more extensions should be given, and yet it happened, and coaches left to lateral positions at conference rivals (NDSU, SDSU). This whole thing has been a disaster in the making for months to years. Very hard to support the current direction, and yes, it comes down to everyone; Bubba, Chaves, and even Armacost. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 14 Posted November 14 2 hours ago, Big Green said: .500 Record is neither winning or Losing. Right in the middle. Win Last 2 games they are a winning program this year. Lose both they are a losing program. Losing the last 2 is not going to do anything to change the HC for next year and probably the year after. Mind as will win the last 2 and if we missing the playoffs at least the players will have a good feeling going into the offseason. Sure, win, win, win, but realistically we all know Bubba is not capable of winning, so I suspect they will lose at least 1 of the next 2 if not both. It’s laughable that we speak as if the extension was put into place with even the remote concept it was a good idea at the time… because it wasn’t. 1 1 Quote
Wilbur Posted November 14 Posted November 14 40 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: The more I hear about South Dakota the less encouraged I get. They sound loaded. So how effective is the down field passing game going to be? 2 Quote
90siouxfan Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Will there be a Fire Bubba chant? will there been anyone to hear it? Quote
AJS Posted November 14 Posted November 14 2 hours ago, Big Green said: Losing the last 2 is not going to do anything to change the HC for next year and probably the year after. *5* I still believe. Lose the last five, including two blowouts at home to the SD schools. That will do it. 2 Quote
LDL Posted November 14 Posted November 14 USD 2-deep lists them using the 3-4 defense. their starters go 275/320/300 with 2 backups going at 300/305. Linebackers go 255/215/230/225. They seem to be able to get the right sized linemen for that defense. Quote
homer Posted November 14 Posted November 14 10 hours ago, shep said: UND wins this one. Just got a feeling. Last weekend was one of the most uninspired teams I have seen take the field at the Alerus. I don’t see it. 1 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted November 14 Author Posted November 14 33 minutes ago, homer said: Last weekend was one of the most uninspired teams I have seen take the field at the Alerus. I don’t see it. The crowd in the second half felt like the end of the Mussman days… Quote
MinnDak Posted November 14 Posted November 14 10 hours ago, homer said: Last weekend was one of the most uninspired teams I have seen take the field at the Alerus. I don’t see it. Fortunately we stuck with the game plan right to the end. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 Opening line is USD -12.5. Yes please! Lay the points. Easy money. Quote
UND1983 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 20 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Opening line is USD -12.5. Yes please! Lay the points. Easy money. What site is that? Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 25 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Opening line is USD -12.5. Yes please! Lay the points. Easy money. Literally free money Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 17 minutes ago, UND1983 said: What site is that? Action Network 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 14 Posted November 14 38 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Opening line is USD -12.5. Yes please! Lay the points. Easy money. NDSU -12.5 vs Mo St Quote
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