HockeyHawk Posted Tuesday at 03:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:40 PM 11 minutes ago, NewUndFan said: This can all be blamed on our incompetent Athletic Director. He has almost destroyed every sport since he has been here. He had no reason at all hiring Mal after she won 2 games her first season. She completely destroyed the culture of womens basketball at the University so much that 8 of her own players just went into the portal. Granted most of them probably should not be playing, but there were a few that we could built off of. The next to go should be CHAVES!! Agreed. With all of this going on most Presidents would have removed the AD by now. 3 Quote
SIOUX29 Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM I heard they were heart broke when he left Mayville. Players liked him. I don't care if the whole team leaves including Schiller, I'm actually more upset about Ibrahim. I like Schiller, but there are way more guards out there than bigs. Is he tough on the girls? Does he hold the players accountable? Let's be honest about half the team had D1 talent I do wish Pemberton, Schiller, Ibrahim and Ferrara Horn would stay. With Demers and Aumer (she needs to take care of the ball better) I think they would make a decent core to build around. 2 Quote
Kab Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Hopefully hutter can gather the ladies and ask them to stay on an make UND relevant again 2 Quote
Big Green Posted Tuesday at 04:02 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:02 PM 23 minutes ago, UND1983 said: It’s not like they were hiring him based on what a 5’5” guard wants. That kind of thinking is what got us here in first place Way to twist it. When your best player does not want to stay and play for a guy that she has played for for a whole season. That is concerning. Also, please tell me what players were behind hiring the previous coaches "to get us in this place" Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM official? hutter got the hc job? Quote
DL Sioux Posted Tuesday at 04:06 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:06 PM This seems like a classic what came first scenario. Girls leaving so coach steps down? or coach steps down so girls leaving? I am all for seeing what Hutter brings to the table. Might be a while though if the cupboards are empty. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:07 PM 3 minutes ago, Big Green said: Way to twist it. When your best player does not want to stay and play for a guy that she has played for for a whole season. That is concerning. Also, please tell me what players were behind hiring the previous coaches "to get us in this place" The team advocated hard for Mal after the two win interim season. They must’ve listened because here we are 1 Quote
UND92,96 Posted Tuesday at 04:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:08 PM 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: official? hutter got the hc job? Yes, he was immediately named as the new coach. 1 Quote
UND92,96 Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM 12 minutes ago, DL Sioux said: This seems like a classic what came first scenario. Girls leaving so coach steps down? or coach steps down so girls leaving? I am all for seeing what Hutter brings to the table. Might be a while though if the cupboards are empty. The players announcing their intentions to leave is what caused Mallory to resign, from what I've heard. 2 Quote
Hambone Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM 12 minutes ago, UND92,96 said: The players announcing their intentions to leave is what caused Mallory to resign, from what I've heard. This is also what I've heard from multiple places. Quote
DL Sioux Posted Tuesday at 04:41 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:41 PM 17 minutes ago, UND92,96 said: The players announcing their intentions to leave is what caused Mallory to resign, from what I've heard. I feel a little better about this scenario! Hopefully they will listen to what Hutter has to say! Perhaps why Chaves moved so quickly!! (one can hope anyways) 1 Quote
ND-fan Posted Tuesday at 05:01 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 05:01 PM I know everyone thinks Schiller is top talent being lost in this group but if I was to rate who will get best opportunities it will be Pemberton at 6’1”, Ibrahim at 6’3” and developing fast, and Horne at 6’2” who does a lot of good things on floor doesn’t show up in box score. Schiller had good first year but at 5’ 6” but not exceptionally quick or has vertical jumping ability to play for power schools is probably limited. These players were leaving because of Mallory still here and I don’t know relationship they had with Hutter but if they move on to other programs they are going to be in for big shock performance will be demanded and if you don’t perform you will see bench time and support promised will dry up quickly. These top colleges it professional basketball, the coaches there are on same kind of leash win or your gone shortly that is why get big money there is very little loyalty. The small midmajor there is still some what college basketball was but it dying quickly money is corrupting the game of original premise of what college sports was about and it also has effected below this in high school levels and now AAu sports and kids having agents even that low, how it has changed. All success it has may just lead to downfall in the future when people grow tired of just elite few colleges dominating the sport but I am old and maybe this what young will like. I look sport is dying from top down in interest and if that is what I believe happens all the big time money will start drying up. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Tuesday at 05:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:09 PM 1 hour ago, NewUndFan said: This can all be blamed on our incompetent Athletic Director. He has almost destroyed every sport since he has been here. He had no reason at all hiring Mal after she won 2 games her first season. She completely destroyed the culture of womens basketball at the University so much that 8 of her own players just went into the portal. Granted most of them probably should not be playing, but there were a few that we could built off of. The next to go should be CHAVES!! "But Chaves serves on a bunch of important committees! And he brought us the almighty Alston Awards! And it's all about GPA and community service hours! That's all you can ask!" (extreme sarcasm) I didn't think it could get any worse than Buning. But Chaves has set the standard for mediocrity and underachievement. Chaves must go. 1 Quote
Popular Post sioux24/7 Posted Tuesday at 05:29 PM Popular Post Posted Tuesday at 05:29 PM 27 minutes ago, ND-fan said: I know everyone thinks Schiller is top talent being lost in this group but if I was to rate who will get best opportunities it will be Pemberton at 6’1”, Ibrahim at 6’3” and developing fast, and Horne at 6’2” who does a lot of good things on floor doesn’t show up in box score. Schiller had good first year but at 5’ 6” but not exceptionally quick or has vertical jumping ability to play for power schools is probably limited. These players were leaving because of Mallory still here and I don’t know relationship they had with Hutter but if they move on to other programs they are going to be in for big shock performance will be demanded and if you don’t perform you will see bench time and support promised will dry up quickly. These top colleges it professional basketball, the coaches there are on same kind of leash win or your gone shortly that is why get big money there is very little loyalty. The small midmajor there is still some what college basketball was but it dying quickly money is corrupting the game of original premise of what college sports was about and it also has effected below this in high school levels and now AAu sports and kids having agents even that low, how it has changed. All success it has may just lead to downfall in the future when people grow tired of just elite few colleges dominating the sport but I am old and maybe this what young will like. I look sport is dying from top down in interest and if that is what I believe happens all the big time money will start drying up. I think the reason why Schiller hurts the most is because she’s local. How do we lose her? Ibrahim is probably a harder player to replace but I also see her skillset and size being wanted up. Schiller is probably at the right level. 3 2 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM Will hurts lots more if they transfer down south ugh 1 Quote
fbmind Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM To help put this discussion to rest on when the 8 players decided to leave, here is a tweet from Nevaeh Horne's dad saying it was before Mal resigned. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Tuesday at 05:57 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:57 PM Wipe the slate clean. Start over from scratch. A few rough seasons are worth it if it results in long-term success. Quote
Big Green Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM 28 minutes ago, fbmind said: To help put this discussion to rest on when the 8 players decided to leave, here is a tweet from Nevaeh Horne's dad saying it was before Mal resigned. Before or After it doesn't matter. Unless the 8 are puling there names out they don't want to play for the new coach. Quote
CMSioux Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM 1 minute ago, Big Green said: Before or After it doesn't matter. Unless the 8 are puling there names out they don't want to play for the new coach. Don't you think Hutton will be having meetings with each of these players this week? It's not difficult to change your mind about the portal. Quote
Big Green Posted Tuesday at 06:28 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:28 PM 2 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Don't you think Hutton will be having meetings with each of these players this week? It's not difficult to change your mind about the portal. If he wants them to stay he will. I guess it is wait and see. Quote
homer Posted Tuesday at 06:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:40 PM 15 minutes ago, Big Green said: Before or After it doesn't matter. Unless the 8 are puling there names out they don't want to play for the new coach. I sure it matters if it was before or after. One gives you a chance at retaining a few….one doesn’t. Quote
Coach4Life Posted Tuesday at 06:46 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:46 PM 4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: SDSU....no tranfers last season. Coach there 25 years. Starting 5 over 500 combined starts in program. UND.....sh!t show. SDSU doesn't take transfers. Coach commits to his recruits and hopes they reciprocate. It's worked very well for him, obviously. Quote
ND-fan Posted Tuesday at 08:04 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 08:04 PM I see Nevaeh Horne dad posted this all happened before Mallory resigned. I sure hope she reconsiders and recommits to the team. she has been steady player for us things she does on floor most people don’t see and value her play but believe me I have seen it and the assistant coaches could tell you this also. Her shooting or shot is unusual but was getting better as season went along. I think majority of players in the portal just wanted better coaching and chance to win but problem now once they opened door it always hard to come back and if somebody else is giving them new possibilities when your young it becomes probability. These girls or I should say women are quality people have represented themselves and university well with their time here. 4 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM 6 hours ago, GoodGood said: So Sicatoka is making sh!t up about NIL being a factor? Never would’ve guessed that!! Anything is more. Quote
ND-fan Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:01 PM Sicatoka I believe you about NIL it’s factor now. My question is I know you have more knowledge about the system and NIL but right now it seems to me men’s basketball players are at much higher level with money and numbers for NIL. Women’s basketball so far is more confined to top players receiving big money and lesser extent money being offered to above average player. I would appreciate for you put examples of money being offered now for type of player like Schiller. Would it far exceed what she would receive in Allston payments and amount she received by local Nil doing some local promotions here for businesses. This may surprise me but I think it is more about commitment from school to put together winning program right now for women’s basketball. Quote
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