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8 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Zero argument that on paper that those two have better classes than UND. But ranking by stars isn't the way to do it. Many of the players they signed didn't get upgrade to 2 or 3 star players until after they committed. Plenty of politics that goes on behind the scenes with how players get to those spots.

Overall point still remains that UND needs to continue striving to get better players and start winning more battles for players with multiple offers. That isn't debatable at all.

I realize stars aren't the end all of recruiting.  Not trying to disagree with you but, I follow recruiting somewhat closely for SD and ND schools, and their 3 star signees were that way before they signed.  They pretty much all have G5 or P4 offers, some just have a shitload of FCS offers.

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5 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Did we win any recruiting battles against the su’s? 

Wagner, but possibly on a technicality. Think NDSU ran out of scholarships. 

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Just now, AJS said:

Wagner, but possibly on a technicality. Think NDSU ran out of scholarships. 

I think you are correct, they already had 3 OL with good offer lists committed.

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2 minutes ago, NDRA said:

I realize stars aren't the end all of recruiting.  Not trying to disagree with you but, I follow recruiting somewhat closely for SD and ND schools, and their 3 star signees were that way before they signed.  They pretty much all have G5 or P4 offers, some just have a shitload of FCS offers.

This usually turns into a fairly unproductive conversation. I'm in complete agreement with you, as someone who likes to follow recruiting as well. Feels like the SU's are recruiting at a completely different level. I'm very optimistic that with a new coach and the facilities that are being completed in the next month, that next year's class really takes off. 

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12 minutes ago, AJS said:

This usually turns into a fairly unproductive conversation. I'm in complete agreement with you, as someone who likes to follow recruiting as well. Feels like the SU's are recruiting at a completely different level. I'm very optimistic that with a new coach and the facilities that are being completed in the next month, that next year's class really takes off. 

Yes, facilities and good leadership can turn the tables rather quickly.

Posted
2 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

is it odd that we are offering portal guys without having a head coach?

I’m guessing it’s business as usual, just like signing day. People trying to keep jobs.  

Posted
31 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I would assume that’s what the interim head coach is doing. 

So I get the part about interim coaches.. keeping the current team .. current recruits.. but offering new transfer guys when a new coach is right around the corner? Seems a little dumb to me

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Coach is going at it like he is not leaving regardless and needs to get “his” guys when they are available. I am pretty sure that is what we want any of our coaches to do. I’d like to see some offers for a 300 lb nose and a couple 280lb defensive ends..

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On 12/4/2024 at 2:12 PM, UND Football Fan said:

Even a Mark Callahan was under under 275 in high school (he wrestled) It should not take long for him to gain muscle/weight. I do agree the 6-2 300 pounder we got should try some NG/DT. My time at UND it was not uncommon for big D-Line that are not overly twitchy get move or OL later in their careers. Once on offense line, they never crossed over to D-Line unless goal line defense. 

I remember him playing HS basketball against my home town.  Did he play two sports or switch?

Posted
10 hours ago, wheelsup said:

is it odd that we are offering portal guys without having a head coach?

Some are looking for an education that UND offers.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

Some are looking for an education that UND offers.

Well, more the merrier, add to the high enrollment. We want talented students on campus, but as for making the football roster, the standard needs to be higher there and everyone should be in agreement. If it’s challenging to make the roster due to higher standards, they could mean more talented football team (if you’re evaluating correctly; otherwise it is just a bunch of crap and ongoing mediocrity continues). 

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9 hours ago, UND Football Fan said:

I do not know but he took 3rd place at State Senior Year. 
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He played basketball until his senior year.. started on the basketball team and then switched to wrestling about midway through the season and took 3rd in state (without having wrestled previously).  Heck of an athlete.

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39 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

2024: 29.58 ppg

You keep with this argument but statistically they were not worse than the year before he got there and they lost 10 starters on defense along with a portion of the two deep.  I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not and there are plenty of ways to make the stats tell any story you want but it’s not like he inherited an above average defense and ran it into the ground.  He inherited no experience, had to rebuild it and performed as well as expected in one year.  
 

Bigger indicator of his abilities for me is a top 5 coach in the country trusted his abilities enough to want to retain him on his staff when moving to the most storied program in college football.  

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