nodak651 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 7:02 PM, SWSiouxMN said: https://www.inforum.com/sports/mcfeely-blog-und-wants-what-ndsu-has-for-television-exposure-and-more Interesting McFeely says UND's rights were available in 2017 and that nobody besides Midco was interested. UND signed its extension with Midco in the summer of 2016, a year before rights were set to expire in summer 2017, so I don't understand how his statement could be accurate. Did he legitimately just make that up? I emailed the Forum to request a correction. Schlossman also seems to be implying that the only reason the tv rights are out for bid now is because of state law, and this contradicts McFeely's statement that relates to why UND is seeking bids now, vs 5 years ago (when competitive bids were not required by state law). Doubt anything comes of it, but their reporting on this and the Learfield contract are complete busch league at best. McFeely's Learfield article literally states that "the hockey and basketball arenas are owned by the Engelstad Family Foundation"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, nodak651 said: McFeely says UND's rights were available in 2017 and that nobody besides Midco was interested. UND signed its extension with Midco in the summer of 2016, a year before rights were set to expire in summer 2017, so I don't understand how his statement could be accurate. Did he legitimately just make that up? I emailed the Forum to request a correction. Schlossman also seems to be implying that the only reason the tv rights are out for bid now is because of state law, and this contradicts McFeely's statement that relates to why UND is seeking bids now, vs 5 years ago (when competitive bids were not required by state law). Doubt anything comes of it, but their reporting on this and the Learfield contract are complete busch league at best. McFeely's Learfield article literally states that "the hockey and basketball arenas are owned by the Engelstad Family Foundation"... You can't use legitimately and mcfooly in the same sentence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I would post this in non-FCS news, but given that UND is looking for a new TV partner, it's interesting to see what schools and leagues are doing around the country. Big Sky just announced a new TV contract that seems really odd... Not sure if Montana and Montana State are getting paid, but we are really lucky with our TV situation. Kinda seems like the Big Sky hijacked Montana's ability to negotiate a TV deal, but I don't know the ins and outs to the the situation out there. https://bigskyconf.com/news/2022/5/18/football-big-sky-conference-games-to-air-on-scripps-television-stations.aspx Big Sky Conference Games to Air on Scripps Television Stations FARMINGTON, Utah (May 18, 2022) – Big Sky Conference games will have a big-time presence on local television stations thanks to a new partnership with The E.W. Scripps Company, Commissioner Tom Wistrcill announced today. Scripps stations in markets with Big Sky schools will broadcast football games and men’s and women’s basketball games beginning in the 2022-23 academic year. “This partnership with Scripps allows Big Sky fans to watch games throughout our entire footprint,” Wistrcill said. “One of the primary objectives with our conference’s media rights is to maximize the number of people who can watch our teams compete, and this deal complements our ESPN relationship by providing extensive television coverage with a renowned media company that has existing relationships across the Big Sky.” The Big Sky Conference will retain rights to digitally distribute and stream programming via the ESPN+ app both within and outside the league’s footprint, and these broadcasts on Scripps will not be subject to any blackout restrictions. “We want to deliver content that is of high interest to our audiences, and we know viewers in this part of the country are passionate about their Big Sky sports,” said Brian Lawlor, president of Local Media for The E.W. Scripps Company. “When it’s important to the community, it’s important to us.” Under the new deal, Scripps will have the rights to broadcast up to 14 conference football games involving Montana and Montana State. Scripps will air the annual “Brawl of the Wild” between the Griz and Bobcats statewide in Montana using Scripps Montana CBS Stations. As part of this agreement, UM and MSU each will have one home and one away conference football game that will air in primetime. The Big Sky Conference will schedule the balance of the Montana and Montana State football games to air in the afternoon which will air on Scripps Montana CBS, NBC and CW TV stations. Also under the contract, Scripps will have the first right to broadcast as many as eight women’s or men’s basketball games involving Montana or Montana State. Additional conference football and men’s and women’s basketball games may be added by mutual agreement between the Big Sky Conference and Scripps. In addition, Scripps will be on-site annually to produce content at the Big Sky’s Football Kickoff, Hall of Fame Ceremony and Men’s and Women’s Basketball Championships. With this new agreement, Big Sky contests will not air on ROOT Sports moving forward. Additional television clearances for Big Sky contests will be announced at a later date. Follow the Big Sky Conference (@BigSkyConf) on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok for all the latest news around the league and use the hashtag #ExperienceElevated. About the Big Sky Conference: Founded in 1963, the Big Sky Conference [bigskyconf.com] is a NCAA Division I conference competing in the Football Championship Subdivision. With 165 teams representing 15 institutions in 16 sports (seven men’s, nine women’s), the Big Sky prides itself on its “#ExperienceElevated” platform that emphasizes the unique traits and lifelong benefits that the conference and its member institutions provide to around 4,000 student-athletes each year. The conference has 11 full members (Eastern Washington University; the University of Idaho; Idaho State University; the University of Montana; Montana State University; Northern Arizona University; the University of Northern Colorado; Portland State University; California State University, Sacramento; Southern Utah University; and Weber State University) located in eight states across the western United States, plus two football affiliate members (California Polytechnic State University and the University of California, Davis) and two men’s golf affiliate members (Binghamton University and the University of Hartford). Conference members have won 12 NCAA championships, including seven in football by five different members as well as five of the last six men’s cross country titles by NAU. About Scripps: The E.W. Scripps Company (NASDAQ: SSP) is a diversified media company focused on creating a better-informed world. As one of the nation’s largest local TV broadcasters, Scripps serves communities with quality, objective local journalism and operates a portfolio of 61 stations in 41 markets. The Scripps Networks reach nearly every American through the national news outlets Court TV and Newsy and popular entertainment brands ION, Bounce, Defy TV, Grit, ION Mystery, Laff and TrueReal. Scripps is the nation’s largest holder of broadcast spectrum. Scripps runs an award-winning investigative reporting newsroom in Washington, D.C., and is the longtime steward of the Scripps National Spelling Bee. Founded in 1878, Scripps has held for decades to the motto, “Give light and the people will find their own way.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Scripps MT is seven stations (Billings, Boseman/Butte, Great Falls x2, Helena x2, Missoula). Scripps looks like the MT version of ForumComm with stations in the major cities of the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 https://fightinghawks.com/news/2022/5/19/general-und-athletics-ralph-engelstad-arena-unveil-sponsorships-partnership.aspx Wonder if this should be a separate topic or will this relate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: https://fightinghawks.com/news/2022/5/19/general-und-athletics-ralph-engelstad-arena-unveil-sponsorships-partnership.aspx Wonder if this should be a separate topic or will this relate? This fits perfectly here. It's a move described when they announced what they were looking for in media rights. And as pretty-much expected, the former Learfield local marketing guys are moving to "Fighting Hawks Sports Partnerships". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Streaming at the league level is contracted now: https://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/show/1226099 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Streaming at the league level is contracted now: https://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/show/1226099 Hockey East gets ESPN plus and we get some sub par streaming great move weems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Schlossman's already been there ... ready the replies. Schlossman's reply addresses money. The NCHC's reply hits something I did not realize: ESPN+ is USA only; Sidearm goes international ... like Canadian recruits and families. (Or even Hellsten's family in Sweden.) An international platform makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Schlossman's already been there ... ready the replies. would we have gotten a better deal if we had arizona state and or air force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: would we have gotten a better deal if we had arizona state and or air force? Does anyone pay to watch them? It's about eyeballs and dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: Does anyone pay to watch them? It's about eyeballs and dollars. does anyone are about cc or scsu? cc even with their stadium will suck for a while imo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: would we have gotten a better deal if we had arizona state and or air force? NCHC could have gotten on ESPN+ if they wanted. Would ESPN+ pay the conferences anything? The NCHC reportedly pays out 80-85% of streaming revenue directly back to the schools, in proportion to the subscription revenue that each school drives (subscribers indicate their fan allegiance when signing up). UND netted 300K from this least year. Given the size of our fan base, this is the best set up UND could have from a revenue standpoint, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 8 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Scripps MT is seven stations (Billings, Boseman/Butte, Great Falls x2, Helena x2, Missoula). Scripps looks like the MT version of ForumComm with stations in the major cities of the state. Right, and no Root blackouts. But given that the games are almost exclusively with Montana schools, isn't this odd that the deal is through the Big Sky rather than the schools themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Streaming at the league level is contracted now: https://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/show/1226099 What do you mean by streaming being contracted? I didn't notice any significant changes really - you were just saying there is a new contract in place right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 2:30 PM, nodak651 said: McFeely says UND's rights were available in 2017 and that nobody besides Midco was interested. UND signed its extension with Midco in the summer of 2016, a year before rights were set to expire in summer 2017, so I don't understand how his statement could be accurate. Did he legitimately just make that up? I emailed the Forum to request a correction. Schlossman also seems to be implying that the only reason the tv rights are out for bid now is because of state law, and this contradicts McFeely's statement that relates to why UND is seeking bids now, vs 5 years ago (when competitive bids were not required by state law). Doubt anything comes of it, but their reporting on this and the Learfield contract are complete busch league at best. McFeely's Learfield article literally states that "the hockey and basketball arenas are owned by the Engelstad Family Foundation"... It's McFeely, he makes up sh!t all the time. he likes to think he is a rabble rouser or curmudgeon and tells himself he gets people talking but he is truly just a dumba$$. On the political side it is like he is trying to get promoted from being a useful idiot to full on propogandist. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, nodak651 said: NCHC could have gotten on ESPN+ if they wanted. Would ESPN+ pay the conferences anything? The NCHC reportedly pays out 80-85% of streaming revenue directly back to the schools, in proportion to the subscription revenue that each school drives (subscribers indicate their fan allegiance when signing up). UND netted 300K from this least year. Given the size of our fan base, this is the best set up UND could have from a revenue standpoint, imo. just saying that being associated in any way with Arizona State should be something UND is all for and all of the other NCHC schools (IF THEY GET THEIR STADIUM FIGURED OUT--------which is figured out so what is the holdup now?)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, nodak651 said: What do you mean by streaming being contracted? I didn't notice any significant changes really - you were just saying there is a new contract in place right? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Right, and no Root blackouts. But given that the games are almost exclusively with Montana schools, isn't this odd that the deal is through the Big Sky rather than the schools themselves? That is most curious now that you mention it. If Griz and Bob are the stars of the show, why involve the BSC (and have to share the money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: just saying that being associated in any way with Arizona State should be something UND is all for and all of the other NCHC schools (IF THEY GET THEIR STADIUM FIGURED OUT--------which is figured out so what is the holdup now?)..... PAC12 network? What incentive is there for the NCHC? Is ASU like-minded with the other NCHC programs? Will they help fill the X at the Frozen Faceoff. Would they prefer that the tourny location move or rotate? Would they be on board with NCHC.TV streaming or want their on PAC12 setup? Too risky, IMO. And they will leave for a new western conference the first chance they get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 2:30 PM, nodak651 said: McFeely says UND's rights were available in 2017 and that nobody besides Midco was interested. UND signed its extension with Midco in the summer of 2016, a year before rights were set to expire in summer 2017, so I don't understand how his statement could be accurate. Did he legitimately just make that up? I emailed the Forum to request a correction. Schlossman also seems to be implying that the only reason the tv rights are out for bid now is because of state law, and this contradicts McFeely's statement that relates to why UND is seeking bids now, vs 5 years ago (when competitive bids were not required by state law). Doubt anything comes of it, but their reporting on this and the Learfield contract are complete busch league at best. McFeely's Learfield article literally states that "the hockey and basketball arenas are owned by the Engelstad Family Foundation"... well, mcfooly is an idiot, so there is that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, 1972 said: well, mcfooly is an idiot, so there is that You are giving mcfooly high praise by only calling him that 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Banner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 15 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: just saying that being associated in any way with Arizona State should be something UND is all for and all of the other NCHC schools (IF THEY GET THEIR STADIUM FIGURED OUT--------which is figured out so what is the holdup now?)..... I dont get the fascination with ASU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 McFeely tweeted about Trump roughly 20-30 times per week on average I would say. Just obsessed and weird. Literally ZERO tweets about Biden or anything that is wrong right now. ZERO. That should tell you all you need to know. The country is worse than it's been in a LONG time and crickets. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Would it be too much to ask for having every basketball game streamed for free when not covered by ESPN+ Asking for a friend.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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