Jerseys

[Siouxperfan7]

  On 6/21/2019 at 5:00 PM, Shawn-O said:

I think the shoulder patch is about the most we can expect for now.  

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I meant having "HAWKS" written diagonally across the home jersey (Like the BC jersey I posted).  I am fine with the logo just on the shoulder.

[SWSiouxMN]

  On 6/21/2019 at 12:41 AM, undpurp said:

A preview of the new jersey design? From a listing on ebay that sold this morning.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/North-Dakota-Fighting-Hawks-Adult-Men-s-Large-52-Hockey-Jersey-Adidas-/183853365382?hash=item2ace83b886%3Ag%3AgNIAAOSwfmddCnKF&nma=true&si=xysCcWBMO1ghZkqIb%2FlKsxL4E30%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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I'll believe it once I see it in the Sioux Shop (in person or online)

I hope it will be better than this

 

[Shawn-O]

  On 6/21/2019 at 5:13 PM, Siouxperfan7 said:

I meant having "HAWKS" written diagonally across the home jersey (Like the BC jersey I posted).  I am fine with the logo just on the shoulder.

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I agree with you, but I don't think they'll do it.  

[MafiaMan]

  On 6/21/2019 at 5:13 PM, Siouxperfan7 said:

I meant having "HAWKS" written diagonally across the home jersey (Like the BC jersey I posted).  I am fine with the logo just on the shoulder.

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I am not a fan of shortening up full nicknames for jerseys and would prefer a rounded FIGHTING at the top, number in the middle, and the bottom being HAWKS. 

Or something like this with the logo in the middle...

[MafiaMan]

  On 6/21/2019 at 2:42 PM, Siouxperfan7 said:

I see your point.  Maybe they should go even further and do the same design as the basketball team and put numbers below the "North Dakota".   I wonder how this design would look on a hockey jersey....

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I think that font works much better with a one-color green design rather than the three-color black-white-green as it appears on the hockey jersey photo.  Dare I say that I kind of like these boucy-ball uniforms?  

[MafiaMan]

Has REA been re-named Kris Engelstad McGarry Rink at Ralph Engelstad Arena yet?  Asking for a friend. 

[Frozen4sioux]

Maybe actually having a legit budgetbfor logo and branding would have been a good idea.....

 

The logobis a small patch icon at best, shoulders and sides of helmet is where it lives best... well the right side at least.

H A W K S diagonally wouldnt be as awefull.

All of this is really aweful though... woof

 

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

I think this round logo works pretty good: 

http://siouxshop.com/store/product/28998/University-of-North-Dakota-Fighting-Hawks-Noreaster-Cuff-Knit/ 

 

 

 

[darell1976]

  On 6/21/2019 at 2:18 PM, Benny Baker said:

Maybe with “N DAKOTA” diagonally. 

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Or just DAKOTA diagonally.  

[MafiaMan]

  On 6/21/2019 at 6:03 PM, darell1976 said:

Or just DAKOTA diagonally.  

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NO.

[joelax]

(Take 2 - dunno why the pictures are coming in sideways and upside down, sorry.)

I was the one that purchased that jersey on eBay. I put in an offer for $45 and they accept. I needed a white jersey for open hockey. Took a few extra pictures. 

I compared it to another Adidas jersey I have, though it's the Adidas Parley (recycled bottles) version of a Philadelphia Flyers jersey. It seems about the same. 

The tag that came on it makes me think of some other Under Armour stuff that I've seen that might have been mockups made for the school. So a legitimate product, but just a version that Adidas made as sort of a promotion or to give the school an options. 

Happy enough with a $45 jersey for open hockey. 

Even though it says authentic, there is no fight strap. It fits just like the 52 in the NHL version. 

 

[Langster019]

  On 6/23/2019 at 8:16 PM, joelax said:

(Take 2 - dunno why the pictures are coming in sideways and upside down, sorry.)

I was the one that purchased that jersey on eBay. I put in an offer for $45 and they accept. I needed a white jersey for open hockey. Took a few extra pictures. 

I compared it to another Adidas jersey I have, though it's the Adidas Parley (recycled bottles) version of a Philadelphia Flyers jersey. It seems about the same. 

The tag that came on it makes me think of some other Under Armour stuff that I've seen that might have been mockups made for the school. So a legitimate product, but just a version that Adidas made as sort of a promotion or to give the school an options. 

Happy enough with a $45 jersey for open hockey. 

Even though it says authentic, there is no fight strap. It fits just like the 52 in the NHL version. 

 

 

 

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If that turns out to be a legitimate replica even, thats a steal for $45. I'll be curious to see what the REA shop sells them for.

 

I'm probably in the minority who likes/doesn't mind the number in the middle. We'll have to wait and see what they unveil. The only benefit is people wont complain as much about having to customize to make it look good, but it'll still look goofy with all of that open space (if, in fact, they have front numbers). People should just buck up and put a kit on it or don't buy it.

[joelax]

 

  On 6/23/2019 at 8:21 PM, Langster019 said:

If that turns out to be a legitimate replica even, thats a steal for $45. I'll be curious to see what the REA shop sells them for.

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Yeah, we'll see. I'm a little wary of how the Climalite part looks, but the tag area of the Parley one (legitimate purchased at Dick's Sporting Goods) isn't all that different looking. I attached that. (For the record, the parley is a 50, because I intend to wear that without pads and got a 52 in this one. The 52 fits slightly bigger as I would expect - though noticeably smaller than the CCM 52 UND I already have - but I think Adidas just sits smaller in general). 

For open hockey in Philadelphia (where I live and attend UND through the online MBA program), it's good enough for me for $45.

 

[joelax]

And by attached, I meant I'll naturally forget and put it here.

 

It lacks the Adidas part and is below vs. above, but the stitched in part seems comparable. I am by no means an expert on identifying counterfeits. 

[Langster019]

  On 6/23/2019 at 8:28 PM, joelax said:

And by attached, I meant I'll naturally forget and put it here.

 

It lacks the Adidas part and is below vs. above, but the stitched in part seems comparable. I am by no means an expert on identifying counterfeits. 

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When it comes to Adidas, they certainly have their quirks you can find differences in. A lot of what I can tell is those weird dots on the shoulders, otherwise, lettering, but with it blank, that's tough. Here's to hoping it's legit.

Any communication from the seller as to how they acquired it?

[joelax]

No, I didn't ask. I suppose I could. I think I decided that it was probably a promo type thing based on the fact that they have a lot of Adidas and Mitchell & Ness (previously owned by Adidas) stuff that all seemed to be from a legitimate (possible overstock) type of line. I've seen a fair amount of other retailers getting these promotional type items, at least in more niche sports, like say lacrosse. You'll see some lacrosse stores get say an Under Armour lacrosse glove for Maryland, but their regular glove might be a different model. So it's a legitimate model, but necessarily what the team is wearing. It's a bit different with lacrosse as you won't see too many lacrosse jerseys for sale, so it's not quite an apples-to-apples comparison. 

I do recall seeing some Under Armour gear for University of Minnesota Duluth that looked very close to the stuff worn on the ice, but was slightly different. I'm not sure if promotional is the right word, but it's kind of like Under Armour creating a range of legitimate stuff for their teams, but only some of which will be mass produced/chosen by the school/team.

Here is the seller's store: https://www.ebay.com/sch/setays13/m.html?item=183853365382&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

I'll shoot them a message to see if they'd give me a straight answer. 

[joelax]

Oh, and btw, they also have a youth version of the jersey in black for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/North-Dakota-Fighting-Hawks-Youth-Hockey-Jersey-Adidas/173938674595?hash=item287f8d8ba3:g:kS0AAOSwvrddCnC0

[Siouxperfan7]

Put the new logo on the front. Or “Hawks” on the front. Or both. What are they worried is going to happen?  People will instantly stop following the program and stop going to games?  The pandering by those at UND and the REA to make sure they don’t offend the Sioux Forever crowd is beyond pathetic. 

[Prison_Mike]

  On 6/23/2019 at 10:19 PM, Siouxperfan7 said:

Put the new logo on the front. Or “Hawks” on the front. Or both. What are they worried is going to happen?  People will instantly stop following the program and stop going to games?  The pandering by those at UND and the REA to make sure they don’t offend the Sioux Forever crowd is beyond pathetic. 

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When they get a hawk logo that actually looks good, I would be all for it. The current logo seems like a secondary logo, like this NDSU one. It is fine on the shoulder but would look like s*** on the front of a jersey. The interlocking ND would also look like s*** on the front of a jersey. 

 

[darell1976]

  On 6/24/2019 at 12:19 AM, Prison_Mike said:

When they get a hawk logo that actually looks good, I would be all for it. The current logo seems like a secondary logo, like this NDSU one. It is fine on the shoulder but would look like s*** on the front of a jersey. The interlocking ND would also look like s*** on the front of a jersey. 

 

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https://www.fanatics.com/ndsu-bison-colosseum-hockey-jersey-green-/p-13593756495408+z-9071-1984027501

[joelax]

so I messaged the seller:

"Hi, 

Thanks so much for the jersey. I am really happy with it. 

I did have a question though. I know that the University of North Dakota is switching to Adidas for this year for ice hockey and none of the jerseys have yet been released (as far as I know). Do you work or sell Adidas products? was this a mockup created by Adidas for a potential North Dakota jersey? I was talking to my friend who is anxiously awaiting to see what the on-ice versions are going to look like next year. Thought you might know!

Thanks so much!

-Joe"

 

His lengthy response:

"Glad your happy with it! 

Sent from my iPhone"

 

I tried another response. We'll see what he says:

"Hi again, 

Yeah, it's great. 

Do you know the story for the jersey? Is this what Adidas is going to be making this year for the team or was this a concept piece as North Dakota transitions to Adidas? 

Thanks. 

-Joe"

 

So I'm not sure how I feel about his response. I still think he's probably in the distribution line for Adidas or something and this was likely a concept piece that Adidas made for UND. OR he's a counterfeiter of Adidas stuff and doesn't want to admit to it? But he's got a lot of Arizona State and other Adidas items such as t-shirts, which I'm not sure are counterfeited like jerseys. I would guess that the margins are too slim on items like t-shirts to make it worthwhile to counterfeiters. 

[southpaw]

As an adidas employee, the tagging is consistent with products made as a trial jersey.

Likely, part of the recent "sample sale" held at the main offices throughout the world. That means he probably paid $10 for it and that it is high enough quality to be seen in public but not what is actually selected by the school. 

Should be 2-3 more unapproved designs floating around the US somewhere. 

 

[MafiaMan]

  On 6/24/2019 at 6:52 AM, southpaw said:

As an adidas employee, the tagging is consistent with products made as a trial jersey.

Likely, part of the recent "sample sale" held at the main offices throughout the world. That means he probably paid $10 for it and that it is high enough quality to be seen in public but not what is actually selected by the school. 

Should be 2-3 more unapproved designs floating around the US somewhere. 

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Hopefully someone in Grand Forks doesn't buy the version with the full hawk logo on the front -- he or she is likely to be tarred and feathered outside of REA if they're seen wearing it inside the rink.  

[joelax]

  On 6/24/2019 at 6:52 AM, southpaw said:

As an adidas employee, the tagging is consistent with products made as a trial jersey.

Likely, part of the recent "sample sale" held at the main offices throughout the world. That means he probably paid $10 for it and that it is high enough quality to be seen in public but not what is actually selected by the school. 

Should be 2-3 more unapproved designs floating around the US somewhere. 

 

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Thanks! so is this how a lot of this type of stuff winds up on eBay? you'll see the same sellers have a bunch of the same brand of stuff - be it Nike, Under Armour, Adidas, etc. 

[MafiaMan]

  On 6/24/2019 at 4:24 PM, joelax said:

Thanks! so is this how a lot of this type of stuff winds up on eBay? you'll see the same sellers have a bunch of the same brand of stuff - be it Nike, Under Armour, Adidas, etc. 

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Just be wary should the seller be shipping the item from China, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc.