nodak651 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: if it's such a no brainer why are 4 conferences still doing on campus games? is the horizon league so rich that they just f it to "free" money... You first said that it was "a joke" that the championship game wasn't in Tulsa, now you vaguely mention "campus games". Are you trying to move the goal posts already? Seems you're now referring to first round games now instead of the championship. Which is it? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Oral Roberts is in Tulsa... Hence they host the post season tourney... At home... In Tulsa Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 5 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i think 4 conferences use campus sites....dummies!!!!! they must not be good at adding up all the cash they are losing... 4 out of what 32 conferences? Those other 28 conferences must be dummies! 2 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 5 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: if it's such a no brainer why are 4 conferences still doing on campus games? is the horizon league so rich that they just f it to "free" money... Do you know how many conferences there are? Quote
nodak651 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 9 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: regular season conf champion should host post season tourney.... 8 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: https://horizonleague.org/documents/2022/9/12//2023_Men_s_Basketball_Bracket.pdf i like the horizon league format 7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: if it's such a no brainer why are 4 conferences still doing on campus games? is the horizon league so rich that they just f it to "free" money... 4 hours ago, nodak651 said: You first said that it was "a joke" that the championship game wasn't in Tulsa, now you vaguely mention "campus games". Are you trying to move the goal posts already? Seems you're now referring to first round games now instead of the championship. Which is it? 3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: Oral Roberts is in Tulsa... Hence they host the post season tourney... At home... In Tulsa For having zero clue about what you're talking about, you sure seem to have a strong opinion about this. #1 The horizon league was forced out of Little Ceasars arena (and into their current format) because they had terrible attendance. 2# The Summit league draws nearly double the Horizon League mens tournament, and probably more than triple if you include women. #3 The Horizon League, no matter the seeding, hosts the final rounds in IUPUI's HOME ARENA. #4 You say it's a joke that Tulsa didn't play in Tulsa, while at the same time you say you like the Horizon format? If ORU was in that league, not only would they still not be in Tulsa, but they would be in a conference member's home arena rather than a neutral site... 4 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 1:01 AM, nodak651 said: For having zero clue about what you're talking about, you sure seem to have a strong opinion about this. #1 The horizon league was forced out of Little Ceasars arena (and into their current format) because they had terrible attendance. 2# The Summit league draws nearly double the Horizon League mens tournament, and probably more than triple if you include women. #3 The Horizon League, no matter the seeding, hosts the final rounds in IUPUI's HOME ARENA. #4 You say it's a joke that Tulsa didn't play in Tulsa, while at the same time you say you like the Horizon format? If ORU was in that league, not only would they still not be in Tulsa, but they would be in a conference member's home arena rather than a neutral site... 1. good for the horizon league for making the change instead of forcing a neutral site tourney if the fans didn't/don't show up 2. i referenced the horizon league meaning i like first two rounds being on campus to highest seeds AND then moving the last two games to a pre determined site over a 2 day period (the summit league tourney is too long at the one site)...but would still prefer confernence champ host the the last two games (oral roberts) 3. i think you don't understand why i reference the city of Tulsa when referencing ORU...im not referencing tulsa university. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Round one thursday march 2nd or friday march 3rd ndsu v omaha in fargo st thomas v und in st paul western illinois v denver in macomb usd v kc in vermillion Round two saturday march 4th or sunday march 5th western illinois v omaha in macomb usd v und in vermillion Round three friday march 10th oral roberts v omaha in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, des moines, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) sdsu v und in tulsa Round four saturday march 11th oral roberts v und in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, des moines, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: Round one thursday march 2nd ndsu v omaha in fargo st thomas v und in st paul western illinois v denver in macomb usd v kc in vermillion Round two saturday march 4th western illinois v omaha in macomb usd v und in vermillion Round three friday march 10th oral roberts v omaha in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) sdsu v und in tulsa Round four saturday march 11th oral roberts v und in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) This is something I could get more behind having the first couple rounds at higher seeds but that’s a lot more travel then too. 1 Quote
Kab Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Teams Und played this year Montana state in the dance, Und lost to them Cal Fullerton playing for championship tonight , Und beat them 1 Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: Round one thursday march 2nd or friday march 3rd ndsu v omaha in fargo st thomas v und in st paul western illinois v denver in macomb usd v kc in vermillion Round two saturday march 4th or sunday march 5th western illinois v omaha in macomb usd v und in vermillion Round three friday march 10th oral roberts v omaha in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, des moines, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) sdsu v und in tulsa Round four saturday march 11th oral roberts v und in tulsa ( or sioux falls or...highest bidder?...st paul, minny, des moines, denver, REA, las vegas, phoenix...) Sounds expensive and unnecessary 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said: Sounds expensive and unnecessary Did you even read my post? There were maybe 5k people for the championship game in a venue that seats 12k figure basketball.... I see the meac championship got streamers or confetti for their champion!!! Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 So the men's side drew 30k So... NDSU v Omaha attendance 6k St Thomas v UND attendance 2k (new 5k arena coming in St Paul soon) Western Illinois v Denver attendance 5k South Dakota v KC attendance 6k Then.... Western Illinois v Omaha attendance 5k South Dakota v North Dakota attendance 6k Then... Oral Roberts v Omaha attendance 11k South Dakota State v North Dakota attendance 5k? Then... Oral Roberts v North Dakota attendance 11k So....55k is bigger than 30k Plus... What if UND hosted NDSU, SDSU, or USD and had the game at REA....10k instead of 3k? Same thing with NDSU... Fargo Dome instead of Scheels...10k instead of 6k? Same thing with Oral Roberts... How many fans could they get for two games at the BOK Center? SDSU and USD could use the Denny if they wanted... St Thomas could use the X or Target Center Quote
nodak651 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: So the men's side drew 30k So... NDSU v Omaha attendance 6k St Thomas v UND attendance 2k (new 5k arena coming in St Paul soon) Western Illinois v Denver attendance 5k South Dakota v KC attendance 6k Then.... Western Illinois v Omaha attendance 5k South Dakota v North Dakota attendance 6k Then... Oral Roberts v Omaha attendance 11k South Dakota State v North Dakota attendance 5k? Then... Oral Roberts v North Dakota attendance 11k So....55k is bigger than 30k Plus... What if UND hosted NDSU, SDSU, or USD and had the game at REA....10k instead of 3k? Same thing with NDSU... Fargo Dome instead of Scheels...10k instead of 6k? Same thing with Oral Roberts... How many fans could they get for two games at the BOK Center? SDSU and USD could use the Denny if they wanted... St Thomas could use the X or Target Center I don't mind the concept of more of an nchc style setup, but you're overestimating on campus attendance. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, nodak651 said: I don't mind the concept of more of an nchc style setup, but you're overestimating on campus attendance. Not to mention short term travel logistics and making sure arenas are available. The tournament is currently very profitable, it would be nice to stay that way. I won't argue the atmosphere in the Betty was awesome when the women won there, but the greater good says this is a very good setup. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, nodak651 said: I don't mind the concept of more of an nchc style setup, but you're overestimating on campus attendance. Give me your attendance predictions.... Then give me your attendance figures if the summit loses oral, KC to and or at Thomas and replace them with the artist formerly known as Mankato state (msu), st clown St, and Augie? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Not to mention short term travel logistics and making sure arenas are available. The tournament is currently very profitable, it would be nice to stay that way. I won't argue the atmosphere in the Betty was awesome when the women won there, but the greater good says this is a very good setup. Greater good for South Dakota.... If the summit league loses st Thomas ukc and or oral Roberts.... You got the NCC 2.1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 14 hours ago, nodak651 said: I don't mind the concept of more of an nchc style setup, but you're overestimating on campus attendance. and if Fargo, GF, Vermillion, Brookings, or Macomb can't sell out there average size home arena for a single elimination post season playoff game on a friday night we all might as well just ask for membership in the Northern Sun Conference Quote
Kab Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 This is why the big sky Montanas and idahos and the summit should merge for both football and basketball and let the fringe summit schools find another conference rotation Sioux Falls and billings for tourney, throw in a Bismarck and rapid city too 2 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, Kab said: This is why the big sky Montanas and idahos and the summit should merge for both football and basketball and let the fringe summit schools find another conference rotation Sioux Falls and billings for tourney, throw in a Bismarck and rapid city too six or seven east schools....six or seven west schools....i'm in! Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Kab said: This is why the big sky Montanas and idahos and the summit should merge for both football and basketball and let the fringe summit schools find another conference rotation Sioux Falls and billings for tourney, throw in a Bismarck and rapid city too i'm good with that but still waiting for Fenton to do SOMETHING to solidify the group/core membership of the Summit using hockey and or FBS football to "lock up" the summit....if he doesn't do something to "lock up" St Thomas they will long gone to the MVC or somewhere else. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Kab said: This is why the big sky Montanas and idahos and the summit should merge for both football and basketball and let the fringe summit schools find another conference rotation Sioux Falls and billings for tourney, throw in a Bismarck and rapid city too und/ndsu usd/sdsu omaha/denver um/msu idaho/weber or sac or portland denver/seattle Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Bad draw for Oral Bob I would love it if ORU knocked off Duke. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: I would love it if ORU knocked off Duke. Wish they got Tennessee instead, that's a more winnable game. If this was Duke of 3 weeks ago, definitely winnable. Not so much now 1 Quote
GoodGood Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Wish they got Tennessee instead, that's a more winnable game. If this was Duke of 3 weeks ago, definitely winnable. Not so much now Agree. Really bad matchup for them Quote
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