Bison06 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Of course, you have no proof.. Where in my comment did I say illegals voting on a federal level. Democrats are pro illegals voting, it’s already happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 10:12 AM, homer said: Environmental policy unveiled by Biden yesterday leans more toward AOC/far left demands. Might be tough to swallow for families and states relying on income from energy, logging and coal. Also will drive up cost of manufacturing in US as the demands to meet increased emission regulation is a huge percentage of component cost in equipment and automobiles. Can be done much cheaper overseas. It will do nothing but drive more manufacturing overseas leaving the USA with nothing but reliance on foreign nations. There is no way we can compete under Biden’s plans. He is just going to give China more money and power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 As of June 30 15.44% of all postive tests statewide in ND were from healthcare workers. Yet most teachers are afraid to go back into the classroom to do their job. #saferatahospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: Where in my comment did I say illegals voting on a federal level. Democrats are pro illegals voting, it’s already happening. You Have No Proof 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: You Have No Proof If only there were an article or two on Google............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: You Have No Proof I have no proof that illegal immigrants are voting in municipal elections in democratically run cities? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/23/politics/nyc-noncitizen-voting-rights-bill/index.html https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States “twelve municipalities in Maryland and California allow non-citizens to vote” That took all of ten seconds, you need to upgrade your googling skills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Kab said: i guess instead of illegal aliens we need to call them undocumented democrats. Or as I like to call them, illegal democrats. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: I have no proof that illegal immigrants are voting in municipal elections in democratically run cities? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/23/politics/nyc-noncitizen-voting-rights-bill/index.html https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States “twelve municipalities in Maryland and California allow non-citizens to vote” That took all of ten seconds, you need to upgrade your googling skills. And if you went beyond the 10 seconds, you would see that only 12 municipalities have yet to allow this and from what I can tell so far, only in school board elections there may or may not be an undocumented immigrant population voting but only if they have children attending school in that district. Its unclear whether they actually have. For the most part, they have to have legal residency to participate in these few districts/municipalities. You have no real proof. But, dont let that stop you from participating in this joke of a thread. As long as you're happy. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Bison06 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/7/29/6741801/2020-democrat-presidential-immigration-debate -decriminalization of border crossing ie open borders. 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: don't use big words or latin abbreviations..it confuses libtards Ah, but decriminalization is NOT open borders. Deportations under administrative law would continue. What you wouldn’t have is criminal cases, which was the root of the problem with splitting immigrant families up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: And if you went beyond the 10 seconds, you would see that only 12 municipalities have yet to allow this and from what I can tell so far, only in school board elections there may or may not be an undocumented immigrant population voting but only if they have children attending school in that district. Its unclear whether they actually have. For the most part, they have to have legal residency to participate in these few districts/municipalities. You have no real proof. But, dont let that stop you from participating in this joke of a thread. As long as you're happy. Lol For the most part you are changing the parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, wxman91 said: Ah, but decriminalization is NOT open borders. Deportations under administrative law would continue. What you wouldn’t have is criminal cases, which was the root of the problem with splitting immigrant families up. What would an illegal immigrant get deported for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynato Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: I have no proof that illegal immigrants are voting in municipal elections in democratically run cities? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/23/politics/nyc-noncitizen-voting-rights-bill/index.html https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States “twelve municipalities in Maryland and California allow non-citizens to vote” That took all of ten seconds, you need to upgrade your googling skills. You should also know legal non-citizens are not illegal immigrants. They are not the same. There is a whole spectrum of people in America who fall between citizens and illegal immigrants. The talking heads in the media for both democrats and republicans are just duping you all and regurgitating old talking points. Obama deported more illegals than any presidency before him. Obama deported more illegals per year on average than Trump has. Obama was even labelled as "Deporter in Chief" by the immigrants rights community. If what you said about illegals influencing elections were remotely true, why would a Democrat POTUS deport record amount of illegals and why would Trump deport even less illegals than Obama? https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/03/02/how-border-apprehensions-ice-arrests-and-deportations-have-changed-under-trump/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: What would an illegal immigrant get deported for? Unauthorized crossing of the border? I’m not sure I understand the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Unauthorized crossing of the border? I’m not sure I understand the question. What were the criminal cases you were referring to earlier, the ones that would go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, UND1983 said: What were the criminal cases you were referring to earlier, the ones that would go away? Maybe this will help: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/decriminalizing-illegal-border-crossing-what-does-it-mean-an-explainer-of-civil-vs-criminal-immigration-enforcement/ In late 2017, the Trump administration introduced its Zero Tolerance Policy, which encouraged DHS to refer all illegal crossings for prosecution and ordered DOJ attorneys to accept and prosecute these referrals. Although this policy had similarities to Operation Streamline, the measures targeted a different group of individuals arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border. Whereas Operation Streamline prosecuted single adult Mexican males who attempted to reenter the country illegally after being deported, Zero Tolerance targeted and separated thousands of families seeking asylum in the United States, as Customs and Border Protection referred adults to DOJ for prosecution while placing their accompanying children in Department of Health and Human Services custody. President Donald Trump suspended the policy in June 2018 in response to widespread criticism and litigation against the measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Maybe this will help: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/decriminalizing-illegal-border-crossing-what-does-it-mean-an-explainer-of-civil-vs-criminal-immigration-enforcement/ In late 2017, the Trump administration introduced its Zero Tolerance Policy, which encouraged DHS to refer all illegal crossings for prosecution and ordered DOJ attorneys to accept and prosecute these referrals. Although this policy had similarities to Operation Streamline, the measures targeted a different group of individuals arriving at the U.S.-Mexico border. Whereas Operation Streamline prosecuted single adult Mexican males who attempted to reenter the country illegally after being deported, Zero Tolerance targeted and separated thousands of families seeking asylum in the United States, as Customs and Border Protection referred adults to DOJ for prosecution while placing their accompanying children in Department of Health and Human Services custody. President Donald Trump suspended the policy in June 2018 in response to widespread criticism and litigation against the measure. did it occur to you that people crossing illegally decided to bring "family members" with to keep the feds from arresting them? libtards don't think before they post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 So if they show up with kids they aren't illegal immigrants? I dont get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: did it occur to you that people crossing illegally decided to bring "family members" with to keep the feds from arresting them? libtards don't think before they post They mainly bring family for two reasons. First, opportunity for their kids. Second, border crossing has become more and more difficult starting long before Trump, so they prefer bringing family with them. Obama was much tougher despite what you may believe. Nazi Trumptards don't realize those two things. They prefer to lap up the bile of lies told to them by Traitor Twitler because they are really effing stupid. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: They mainly bring family for two reasons. First, opportunity for their kids. Second, border crossing has become more and more difficult starting long before Trump, so they prefer bringing family with them. Obama was much tougher despite what you may believe. Nazi Trumptards don't realize those two things. They prefer to lap up the bile of lies told to them by Traitor Twitler because they are really effing stupid. Lol What are those opportunities currently? Education? Athletics? Fine arts? All those are most likely a "no". Protesting? Gun violence? Civil unrest? No issues there.....jump in and enjoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said: And if you went beyond the 10 seconds, you would see that only 12 municipalities have yet to allow this and from what I can tell so far, only in school board elections there may or may not be an undocumented immigrant population voting but only if they have children attending school in that district. Its unclear whether they actually have. For the most part, they have to have legal residency to participate in these few districts/municipalities. You have no real proof. But, dont let that stop you from participating in this joke of a thread. As long as you're happy. Lol You stated illegal immigrants don’t vote. I provide links showing they do. End of discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: What are those opportunities currently? Education? Athletics? Fine arts? All those are most likely a "no". Protesting? Gun violence? Civil unrest? No issues there.....jump in and enjoy. Education is the primary reason. If you believe the latter, you are lost as a purveyor of why our country exists. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants obey the laws. They want to stay. If you believe the crap you wrote thinking that all but a small minority of undocumented immigrants want gun violence, you are lost and might consider that you and your Trumpistas will be a footnote in the dark side of American history....hopefully soon. As far as protests. That's the first Amendment, which all are protected, even the undocumented. Unless the Trump secret police are finished in Portland... Civil unrest? Hey, put an orange sh#$#stain in office and these things happen. Civil unrest also doesn't automatically classify as criminal. Covid 19 wont be over come November. But, things will probably change. Dig a bunker if it makes you all afeared. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You stated illegal immigrants don’t vote. I provide links showing they do. End of discussion. Yeah right. I don’t think you know how this thread works 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You stated illegal immigrants don’t vote. I provide links showing they do. End of discussion. Well, Bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzon You overstated your case and really didn't produce real evidence. Still didn't prove undocumenteds actually voted. They may have,but only on a fraction of those municipalities and they aren't even sure Now, have a meltdown if you want. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Education is the primary reason. If you believe the latter, you are lost as a purveyor of why our country exists. The vast majority of undocumented immigrants obey the laws. They want to stay. If you believe the crap you wrote thinking that all bit a small minority of undocumented immigrants want gun violence, you are lost and might consider that you and your Trumpistas will be a footnote in the dark side of American history....hopefully soon. As far as protests. That's the first Amendment, which all are protected, even the undocumented. Unless the Trump secret police are finished in Portland... Civil unrest? Hey, put an orange sh#$#stain in office and these things happen. Civil unrest also doesn't automatically classify as criminal. Covid 19 wont be over come November. But, things will probably change. Dig a bunker if it makes you all afeared. Lol Peaceful protests are protected by the first amendment, left out a pretty important word there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Peaceful protests are protected by the first amendment, left out a pretty important word there. True. But, that's just an adjective added to "protests". Protests are allowed per the 1st Amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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