Popular Post UND1983 Posted November 18 Popular Post Posted November 18 27 minutes ago, AJS said: From my recollection, Bubba was officially extended in March, but the rumor was Danny left, because he found out the plan was for Bubba to be extended. The post right after Danny left and the reason is seared into my memory. Is there plausible deniability? Yes. Do I believe the post and not the quote Bubba said, yes. The portal exits that I would count as red flag would be any starter after spring ball, those happened in April. This is correct. Danny left due to Bubba staying on. 6 Quote
jdub27 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 22 minutes ago, UND1983 said: This is correct. Danny left due to Bubba staying on. He didn't leave because Bubba was staying and/or got an extension, he left because UND can't guarantee him head coach in waiting. Officially offering someone a job that isn't open would have caused significant issues given ND public entity hiring laws. It is what it is, but probably worked out better for him and his replacement has proven to be pretty good. 3 Quote
90siouxfan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 2 hours ago, zonadub said: If NDSU and/or SDSU (and even USD) along with the Montanas and maybe Idaho moved to FBS, all indications are that UND cannot afford to make the move with them if the AD can’t come up with $1MM buyout. Doesn’t show that a $5MM move up fee would be possible. disclaimer… doubt NDSU will get an invitation, but UND is not prepared to be ready if they do. Perhaps the reason for not executing an obviously needed buy out is to keep the funds for this event? Quote
90siouxfan Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: SDSU does not have more money than UND. Anyone notice the “SDSU to FBS” talk never comes out of SD? I wonder if moo u knows this and sees it as an added incentive to move up? Quote
gfhockey Posted November 18 Posted November 18 Can someone post funding per mvfc school where’s all our money go? Quote
UND1983 Posted November 18 Posted November 18 45 minutes ago, jdub27 said: He didn't leave because Bubba was staying and/or got an extension, he left because UND can't guarantee him head coach in waiting. Officially offering someone a job that isn't open would have caused significant issues given ND public entity hiring laws. It is what it is, but probably worked out better for him and his replacement has proven to be pretty good. That would be incorrect. Danny wanted his shot at the job this past winter, then the job became "unavailable" when many thought it was going to be "available". 2 Quote
Cratter Posted November 18 Posted November 18 3 hours ago, zonadub said: If NDSU and/or SDSU (and even USD) along with the Montanas and maybe Idaho moved to FBS, all indications are that UND cannot afford to make the move with them if the AD can’t come up with $1MM buyout. Doesn’t show that a $5MM move up fee would be possible. disclaimer… doubt NDSU will get an invitation, but UND is not prepared to be ready if they do. That's why I advocate going straight to the top. Get a good coach and double their current salary and/or UNDs football coaches. No pussyfooting around with hoping "this guy" will be good. "We don't have money to go FCS"....yet they always find a way. "NDSU doesn't have FBS money to pay a coach".....yet they'd find a way. UND can find a way to bring in the highest paid FCS coach if they really wanted too... 3 Quote
Cratter Posted November 18 Posted November 18 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: That would be incorrect. Danny wanted his shot at the job this past winter, then the job became "unavailable" when many thought it was going to be "available". Danny wanted a shot to be the head coach of UND Football this season? Many thought Bubba wouldn't be head coach this year? 1 1 Quote
Hawkster Posted November 18 Posted November 18 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: He didn't leave because Bubba was staying and/or got an extension, he left because UND can't guarantee him head coach in waiting. Officially offering someone a job that isn't open would have caused significant issues given ND public entity hiring laws. It is what it is, but probably worked out better for him and his replacement has proven to be pretty good. With Danny we at least had a winning record and made the playoffs, even if it was one and done. We aren't doing either of those this year. I don't know what to make of Fruechte. Quote
UND1983 Posted November 19 Posted November 19 32 minutes ago, Cratter said: Danny wanted a shot to be the head coach of UND Football this season? Many thought Bubba wouldn't be head coach this year? Why do you feel he left immediately after hearing Bubba wanted to keep going for at least a couple more years? 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 19 Posted November 19 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: Can someone post funding per mvfc school where’s all our money go? right out the bottom of rea...... 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 19 Posted November 19 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Why do you feel he left immediately after hearing Bubba wanted to keep going for at least a couple more years? exactly.....when danny went to the meeting and found out bubba getting even more years......he essentially quit. 2 Quote
Cratter Posted November 19 Posted November 19 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: Why do you feel he left immediately after hearing Bubba wanted to keep going for at least a couple more years? I just didn't think many people thought Bubba wasn't going to be coaching UND football right now. I'd guess he must have been throwing out the thought of retirement? Quote
Tolna Posted November 19 Posted November 19 18 hours ago, gfhockey said: Can someone post funding per mvfc school where’s all our money go? Not sure if this is what your looking for: https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison...thers-at-bison The report says South Dakota State spends $8.8 million a year on football. North Dakota State is next at $6.41 million and the rest of the league goes as follows in millions: North Dakota $6.02, Missouri State $5.24, Southern Illinois $5.21, Illinois State $4.8, Youngstown State $4.71, South Dakota $4.45, Murray State $4.03 and Northern Iowa $3.8. Quote
Goon Posted November 19 Posted November 19 Quote The report says South Dakota State spends $8.8 million a year on football. North Dakota State is next at $6.41 million and the rest of the league goes as follows in millions: North Dakota $6.02, Missouri State $5.24, Southern Illinois $5.21, Illinois State $4.8, Youngstown State $4.71, South Dakota $4.45, Murray State $4.03 and Northern Iowa $3.8. If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 19 Posted November 19 31 minutes ago, Goon said: If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. I agree with all of this. What is incredibly frustrating is that it is unacceptable that “big alumni” are just getting ready for a change now. Should have been communicated years ago (2017 or 2021). Quote
Popular Post Goon Posted November 19 Popular Post Posted November 19 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I agree with all of this. What is incredibly frustrating is that it is unacceptable that “big alumni” are just getting ready for a change now. Should have been communicated years ago (2017 or 2021). Hopefully, they will push, and this isn't just talk. Some changes need to be made. I personally, like Bubba, he's a decent human being, but we're stuck in a rut. 2 5 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 19 Posted November 19 8 minutes ago, Goon said: Hopefully, they will push, and this isn't just talk. Some changes need to be made. I personally, like Bubba, he's a decent human being, but we're stuck in a rut. Absolutely, this is no indictment on his character as an individual at all, but, division 1 football is a results-driven business. UND is not competing with regional rivals and putting up the results necessary to compete; it’s clearly time for major change. 1 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 19 Posted November 19 Set up a custom report to look at FB spending by schools of interest. https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports For example: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/77901c28 2 Quote
Cratter Posted November 20 Posted November 20 On 11/18/2024 at 5:23 PM, Cratter said: That's why I advocate going straight to the top. Get a good coach and double their current salary and/or UNDs football coaches. No pussyfooting around with hoping "this guy" will be good. "We don't have money to go FCS"....yet they always find a way. "NDSU doesn't have FBS money to pay a coach".....yet they'd find a way. UND can find a way to bring in the highest paid FCS coach if they really wanted too... Over 6 million UND football budget....double the coaches salary and it's only adds $250,000. Seems doable to me. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 20 Posted November 20 https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e9912f90 Quote
UND08 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 On 11/19/2024 at 12:22 PM, Goon said: If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. Agree with everyone's take on this. And honestly...does Saturday even matter? Kinda feels like the damage has been done... 1 Quote
Dustin Posted November 20 Posted November 20 4 minutes ago, UND08 said: does Saturday even matter? It shouldn't. I hope they win for the sake of the seniors, and all players, and really, even Bubba. But Bubba shouldn't be coaching for his job this Saturday. He should be coaching the last game of his career regardless. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted November 20 Posted November 20 5 minutes ago, UND08 said: And honestly...does Saturday even matter? Kinda feels like the damage has been done... Would be nice to get a road W and send the seniors off on a high note. Whatever happens after that is what it is. Quote
Popular Post shep Posted November 20 Popular Post Posted November 20 If you listen to the 360 guys you'll hear Kelly say that it's nice UND has a high GPA and lots of Community Service hours "but I want to win." 5 Quote
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