UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 11 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: It’s not that I don’t think he would be good. I just can’t get over the optics. We need a hire with great optics and a coach that doesn’t look like it’s running down his leg every game. True, but more important than optics is success. Who do we (and most importantly Chaves) honestly think is the best candidate to turn UND football into a championship contender? Quote
iramurphy Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 53 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Chaves historically hires D2 head coach, going back to Beau Baldwin at EWU and most recently Paul Sather at UND. I’d guess it will be a Midwest D2 coach or the lazy (and risky) move of Fruechte being promoted. Hoffner beat Bolte today, maybe Hoffner? From the very beginning (see my earlier posts), Schmidt has been the favorite. Too much fraternity support and now fundraising. It’s basically a hiring similar to Bubba - UND ties and is familiar to alumni. Justification used is it is “DeBoer’s guy” , although he’s not working for him anymore and cut ties … UND going with Schmidt could work, but could be mediocrity like with Bubba. We will see. Schmidt hasn’t cut ties to DeBoer. They still communicate and DeBoer said he is welcome to join him in Alabama. If FB Alumni were organized and “now fundraising “ I would know. That isn’t to say there aren’t FB alumni pushing for him to get the job, but probably just as many pushing for Tibesar. Quote
AJS Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 I’m kind of in shock. I shouldn’t be, since Chaves apparently is doing the most Chaves thing possible. Like others have said, Freuchte might be the right call. I hope to see instantly a stark difference from everything Bubba. Blow up the defensive staff. Keep the critical players from entering portal. That will start building excitement. Win the portal! Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 1 minute ago, iramurphy said: Schmidt hasn’t cut ties to DeBoer. They still communicate and DeBoer said he is welcome to join him in Alabama. If FB Alumni were organized and “now fundraising “ I would know. That isn’t to say there aren’t FB alumni pushing for him to get the job, but probably just as many pushing for Tibesar. Sure, he did not cut ties completely, but he’s not working for him anymore even though he had that opportunity. Quote
FSSD Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dustin said: Which Miller and which half? Or is this a ruse? GFH Writer - Tom Miller. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 22 minutes ago, Dustin said: I had $300k in mind. Coordinators around $125k. I want the proper investment made. Too low. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 1 minute ago, AJS said: I’m kind of in shock. I shouldn’t be, since Chaves apparently is doing the most Chaves thing possible. If Chaves does this internal hiring crap again, my expectations will remain rock bottom until I see something that suggests otherwise. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Just now, FSSD said: GFH Writer - Tom Miller. Half of what? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 $300k is a lot to a man without a job. Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Dustin said: Which Miller and which half? Or is this a ruse? Miller was interviewed during the halftime of the men’s basketball tonight and he said that the coach might be announced as early as Sunday 1 Quote
FSSD Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Just now, Oxbow6 said: Half of what? Mens BB game at the Betty against Weber St. He was talking to Midco accouncers at half. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Just now, SiouxFan100 said: Miller was interviewed during the halftime of the men’s basketball tonight and he said that the coach might be announced as early as Sunday That would be before the portal opens on Monday, which is a good thing. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 44 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: I agree with that but was reacting to the notion that a DII head coach is inherently better positioned to succeed vs. coordinator level guys from FBS level. There is risk either way and I don't believe the narrative that the DII coach would be a safer pick. It is going to come down to the individual, not where they coached before. I disagree. It’s about risk management. When you hire somebody with no previous experience directly doing the job you are hiring them to now, then you are inherently taking on a greater risk. With all that said, everyone has to get a start someplace. Interviews are key. Hiring internally for UND means you are: A. Hiring somebody with no head coaching experience. B. Hiring somebody who has most recently been on losing teams. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 So the hypothetical is Fruechte gets hired even though he doesn't even meet the requirements of the job description listed by UND. That would be so Chavez doing Chavez things. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 23 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Ask Adam Thielen That’s his teammate / buddy. Just like asking the current players, it’s not necessarily in UND’s best interest to base the hire on that biased opinion… But sure, it’s a nice endorsement. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 One other thought: When Rube Bjorkman stepped down as head hockey coach in 1978, the hockey program had struggled for a decade. Bjorkman was replaced by one of his assistants. We still call him Gino. And he made big changes to the program. Good changes. Whether it would work out in this case is the big question. 1 Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 9 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I disagree. It’s about risk management. When you hire somebody with no previous experience directly doing the job, you are hiring them to now. Do, you are inherently taking on a greater risk. Hiring internally for UND means you are: A. Hiring somebody with no head coaching experience. B. Hiring somebody who has most recently been on losing teams. I guess we’ll just have to disagree. For every Brian Kelly there are a lot of successful DII coaches like Don Morton, Jim Wacker or Earl Solomonson that failed when moving up to DI or DI-AA Quote
Mama Sue Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 24 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Me neither but the Muss comparison is beyond a reach. I understand the parallels but purely with personality funding/conference affiliation and facilities we can’t compare the two at all. And weren’t the HC, Oc, and DC all young and inexperienced? All around bad decision from the AD and whomever made that decision. BUT what do we know about keeping the OC or DC now? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 18 minutes ago, AJS said: I’m kind of in shock. I shouldn’t be, since Chaves apparently is doing the most Chaves thing possible. Like others have said, Freuchte might be the right call. I hope to see instantly a stark difference from everything Bubba. Blow up the defensive staff. Keep the critical players from entering portal. That will start building excitement. Win the portal! Top question of Freuchte if I’m Chaves has to be if he’s scared of !@#$ canning most of the guys he worked with last year. That includes on the offensive side of the ball. 1 Quote
YourInSiouxCountry Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Text I got from a friend at the BB game tonight 4 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Just now, geaux_sioux said: Top question of Freuchte if I’m Chaves has to be if he’s scared of !@#$ canning most of the guys he worked with last year. That includes on the offensive side of the ball. If Fruechte keeps everything the same, we might as well put Bubba back in. Quote
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted December 8, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 8, 2024 1 minute ago, YourInSiouxCountry said: Text I got from a friend at the BB game tonight Well looks like your friend ain’t gonna hear !@#$ from Tom again lol 6 Quote
AJS Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Schmidt & keep Freuchte on as OC. Let’s lock this in!! 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Just now, AJS said: Schmidt & keep Freuchte on as OC. Let’s lock this in!! I could live with that. 1 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 Excited and it appears we got it done fast there is hope 1 Quote
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