Cratter Posted Sunday at 07:58 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:58 AM "But Faison sucks....him picking Bubba proves it" ....a poll on Sioux Sports: Bubba vs the future head coach of Alabama... Was like 53% to 47%..... It was close..... "Jamie pull that old poll up." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted Sunday at 12:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:14 PM For the record I don't favor replacing Armacost, seems like a great president but not dealing with the sports problems is not a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted Sunday at 02:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:07 PM Our athletic department sucks at every single sport. There is your reason for why Chaves is bad at his job. Not too hard (twss) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted Sunday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:13 PM I think someone likes Chaves….. @jdub27 burner account??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 02:23 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:23 PM 6 hours ago, Cratter said: "But Faison sucks....him picking Bubba proves it" ....a poll on Sioux Sports: Bubba vs the future head coach of Alabama... Was like 53% to 47%..... It was close..... "Jamie pull that old poll up." If you want to defend Chaves, go ahead. But his record speaks for itself. And it's not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted Sunday at 02:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:31 PM 48 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: I think someone likes Chaves….. @jdub27 burner account??? I'll vouch for @Cratter.....he only has one account. He was a 5th year Sophomore at UND back in the day if that says anything. Juggling multiple accounts isn't in his wheelhouse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted Sunday at 03:35 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:35 PM 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: But his record speaks for itself. And it's not pretty. I've seen that exact same argument for every athletic director and every major head coach for UND over the last 25+ years. Sorta rings hollow when its constantly thrown around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted Sunday at 03:37 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:37 PM 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: I'll vouch for @Cratter.....he only has one account. He was a 5th year Sophomore at UND back in the day if that says anything. Juggling multiple accounts isn't in his wheelhouse. Them: "Im a Super Senior!" Me: "Hold my beer!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM I've been lukewarm on blaming it all on Bubba the last couple years. But with him being a defensive coach and the complete deterioration of the defense over the last few years, it's pretty obvious we need to try something new. The lack of talent on that side of the ball is striking and has been for a while now. Side question - how often do FCS head coaches get canned? I don't claim to follow a ton outside of UND but it doesn't seem like it's real common. Imagine buyouts at the FCS level are tough to swallow, can't imagine many programs have a million bucks to throw away. Can hope Bubba just hangs it up and maybe they come to a settlement where he takes on another role in the athletic dept for a few years as I'm sure it's hard for him to walk away from 750k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM There will even be a repeat of this entire thread: Which is fun. We should fire ADs and coaches more often. just for my own entertainment purposes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted Sunday at 04:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:07 PM Defensively something has to change. The offense was fine this year…..potentially better with a new look but less overall experience/talent from last year. The buyout number is high but the AD needs to figure out what now having to rebuild momentum in the program costs. What do season ticket renewals look like next year, business sponsors, etc. I don’t know the answer to a tough question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted Sunday at 04:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:29 PM 31 minutes ago, Cratter said: There will even be a repeat of this entire thread: Which is fun. We should fire ADs and coaches more often. just for my own entertainment purposes. Here's a link to the start of the above thread so it starts from the beginning. Crater had it starting at the end. Everything sounds the same as today. One certain person even speculated that Kalen DeBoer would apply. https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/18586-the-next-coach-of-und-football-is/#comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted Sunday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:34 PM 59 minutes ago, Cratter said: I've seen that exact same argument for every athletic director and every major head coach for UND over the last 25+ years. Sorta rings hollow when its constantly thrown around. Great. It’s true now though and there isn’t a metric that proves otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted Sunday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:35 PM 13 minutes ago, Hawkster said: One certain person even speculated that Kalen DeBoer would apply. https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/18586-the-next-coach-of-und-football-is/#comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted Sunday at 04:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:41 PM 18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: 24 minutes ago, Hawkster said: Here's a link to the start of the above thread so it starts from the beginning. Crater had it starting at the end. Everything sounds the same as today. One certain person even speculated that Kalen DeBoer would apply. https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/18586-the-next-coach-of-und-football-is/#comments And the second post (in that thread from Sept. 2013) was again @jdub27 protecting Mussman and trying to deflect away from conversation about meaningful change … WOW! unreal … you can’t make this stuff up. UND’s athletics culture as a DI program is so mediocre and broken … and apparently has been for a while. Do we want championships or participation awards? I think we may need to consider renaming the champions club to the participation club if we keep Bubba any longer … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted Sunday at 04:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:51 PM 1 hour ago, Cratter said: I've seen that exact same argument for every athletic director and every major head coach for UND over the last 25+ years. Sorta rings hollow when its constantly thrown around. Name one hire that Chaves has made that has worked out in any meaningful way. You can't........unless you are fine with all the mediocrity. I am not with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted Sunday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:01 PM Boots on the ground >>> deep state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted Sunday at 05:09 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:09 PM This being University of North Dakota athletics, I fully realize a coaching change after this year is highly unlikely. Where I’m holding onto hope for a change, is the direction of this program is now “unspinable”. It’s a feeling that has never been this clear. Agree or disagree (most disagreed), but even this most recent extension, you could spin it as, well, they’ve made the playoffs X years in a row. Just need to fix Y to take the next step. It’s the final minute of the first half in three of the last four games. It’s every time they step on the road. Coaching staff has completely failed. It’s broken and it will not be fixed while Bubba is still the coach. They will not make the playoffs moving forward, while Bubba is still the coach. The other Dakota schools and the Montanas will lose a guy or two to the portal (except for SDSU), but will largely keep their key players. It’s why the are Top 10 teams. Last year, UND for the first time lost more than usual. That was a big sign. This year I’m guessing will be worse. There’s no way to spin this anymore. Maybe UND athletics will take a step forward and finally realize the only thing missing is Coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM Chaves defense of Bubba will be something to the tune of UND is one of 5 (making this number up) programs to make the FCS playoffs 4 of the last 6 years. I know he talked about that a lot last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted Sunday at 05:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:34 PM 2 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Chaves defense of Bubba will be something to the tune of UND is one of 5 (making this number up) programs to make the FCS playoffs 4 of the last 6 years. I know he talked about that a lot last year. …..then what happened Bill? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM 15 minutes ago, AJS said: This being University of North Dakota athletics, I fully realize a coaching change after this year is highly unlikely. And this is where apathy sets in and strong consideration towards separating one’s self away from this mess … UND leadership needs to prevent this and pay accordingly. With that said, donors (including myself) are willing to contribute in order for the right thing to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted Sunday at 05:37 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:37 PM I was down to two tix and those will be non-renewed if nothing changes. Can’t justify it any longer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM 8 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: Chaves defense of Bubba will be something to the tune of UND is one of 5 (making this number up) programs to make the FCS playoffs 4 of the last 6 years. I know he talked about that a lot last year. Also could state they’ve made the playoffs 2 of the last 4 seasons (including this season) and have won zero playoff games in that time … it can be spun anyway just to fit the narrative. Meanwhile, regional rivals have been winning national championships … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted Sunday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:04 PM 15 hours ago, 90siouxfan said: What is his opinion on sports programs? Necessary evil? Money pit? No, but it’s not his priority nor should it be. The major universities rely on supporters and alumni for key financial projects/programs. If I recall correctly, there are significant funds for athletics including FB, earmarked in the $500,000,000 fundraising campaign. The alumni association has employees specifically assigned to athletics. We can all respond to our frustrations from lack of success in our favorite athletic teams. We all don’t have significant funds to donate when we are trying to raise a family or help our kids in college etc. It doesn’t help “right the ship” faster when we stop attending games, stop donating what we have been etc. I guess I am beyond the blame game. It doesn’t mean I disagree. It’s easy to go that route, but it hasn’t changed anything. Maybe a better course is to recognize the problem and stepping up to say “where can I help”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM Wouldn't say UND, in some departments, is killing it from an educational standpoint. Since returning from the Covid debacle and it's shenanigans as a freshman not one in person class....all on-line....since the return and that person will graduate with a masters degree next month. Uncle Andy is no Clifford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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