MDtoGF Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 This article focuses on more than the record, but more on the culture of Bubba's staff. things are a lot different this offseason than the last 3-8 year. https://seamoresports.com/2017/11/14/und-football-2017-a-look-at-the-culture-bubba-has-built/ Quote
SkoHawks Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Optimism? Wrong forum.... Thanks for posting, will check it out. Quote
nodak651 Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Right now I wish grand forks had a guy like Dan Cole to put a negative spin on everything. I'll be optimistic after the playoffs end. 1 Quote
gundy1124 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 7 hours ago, MDtoGF said: This article focuses on more than the record, but more on the culture of Bubba's staff. things are a lot different this offseason than the last 3-8 year. https://seamoresports.com/2017/11/14/und-football-2017-a-look-at-the-culture-bubba-has-built/ A strecth at 3-8. It would be a better article with a 6-5 record as a disaster year. 1 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, nodak651 said: Right now I wish grand forks had a guy like Dan Cole to put a negative spin on everything. I'll be optimistic after the playoffs end. Give me a couple 13-14 seconds and I might be able to find someone Quote
90siouxfan Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 I thought sure some clown would be exuberant that we retained Rudy!! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 13 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said: Give me a couple 13-14 seconds and I might be able to find someone "We don't know that." IALTO. Quote
bincitysioux Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 My reasons for optimism: Donnel Rogers & Cam Hunt on the field at the same time Deion Harris Olivera, Santiago, and Johannesen An O-Line that will be a year older, more experienced, and hopefully, bigger and stronger Fewer injuries A coaching staff that hopefully learned some valuable lessons this season, and will have a new found sense of urgency 2 Quote
shep Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: My reasons for optimism: Donnel Rogers & Cam Hunt on the field at the same time Deion Harris Olivera, Santiago, and Johannesen An O-Line that will be a year older, more experienced, and hopefully, bigger and stronger Fewer injuries A coaching staff that hopefully learned some valuable lessons this season, and will have a new found sense of urgency I'm hopeful that Larson, Morrison and Honerlaw also bring it to the D next year. A different QB will make a big difference too. Quote
Sioux94 Posted November 19, 2017 Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, shep said: I'm hopeful that Larson, Morrison and Honerlaw also bring it to the D next year. A different QB will make a big difference too. A QB that can drop dimes on the deep ball may finally help stretch the field. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 13 hours ago, bincitysioux said: My reasons for optimism: Donnel Rogers & Cam Hunt on the field at the same time Deion Harris Olivera, Santiago, and Johannesen An O-Line that will be a year older, more experienced, and hopefully, bigger and stronger Fewer injuries A coaching staff that hopefully learned some valuable lessons this season, and will have a new found sense of urgency The hopefulness of the final point is telling. We'll see; I'm not holding my breath. Quote
AJS Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 This year the offense was average and the defense was well below average. Reasons for optimism: O-Line have solid returners, many were freshman / sophomores this year RB's Legitimate depth at QB CB's will be greatly improved - Harris / Holm are an excellent starting pair, Blubaugh / Hunt / Carter will give this unit incredible depth Rogers / Larson / Cam will be a great ILB group RS Freshman D-Line mixed with Tank / Cieslak / Bennett 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Everyone is assuming Harris will be back at 100% to start the year. An Achilles injury to a CB can be devistating. He may never be the same. I hope he can come back better than ever for next year but I’m not exactly expecting it. 4 Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 8 hours ago, AJS said: This year the offense was average and the defense was well below average. Reasons for optimism: O-Line have solid returners, many were freshman / sophomores this year RB's Legitimate depth at QB CB's will be greatly improved - Harris / Holm are an excellent starting pair, Blubaugh / Hunt / Carter will give this unit incredible depth Rogers / Larson / Cam will be a great ILB group RS Freshman D-Line mixed with Tank / Cieslak / Bennett I am hopeful that you are correct, but Bubba and staff needs to get everyone on the same page and get them so that 95% of their focus at UND is school and football. Quote
nodak651 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 8 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Everyone is assuming Harris will be back at 100% to start the year. An Achilles injury to a CB can be devistating. He may never be the same. I hope he can come back better than ever for next year but I’m not exactly expecting it. yeah... didn't it pretty much end Mollberg's career? I think his dad said that it had something to do with the position change when he posted on here a while ago. Anyways, as far as next year, I think we will be better simply because we will have a better QB. Keaton is a below average quarterback when he is not running the ball, which he didn't this year. He averaged 21.7 rushing yards per game this year. He was in the bottom half of the league in QB efficiency. The coaches might throw the ball around a little bit more with a better quarterback next year. We have talked a lot this year about coaches utilizing the players that they have, and they did not have a good quarterback, so they ran the ball more than most here would have liked. With a better qb, even with the same amount of attempts, we will see a more balanced offense next season. I like Keaton, but even Zimmerman already looked better than him this year. As much as I like the guy, Keaton had a terrible deep ball. That said, I am still in the fire Rudolph camp, but I don't see that happening. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, nodak651 said: yeah... didn't it pretty much end Mollberg's career? I think his dad said that it had something to do with the position change when he posted on here a while ago. Anyways, as far as next year, I think we will be better simply because we will have a better QB. Keaton is a below average quarterback when he is not running the ball, which he didn't this year. He averaged 21.7 rushing yards per game this year. He was in the bottom half of the league in QB efficiency. The coaches might throw the ball around a little bit more with a better quarterback next year. We have talked a lot this year about coaches utilizing the players that they have, and they did not have a good quarterback, so they ran the ball more than most here would have liked. With a better qb, even with the same amount of attempts, we will see a more balanced offense next season. I like Keaton, but even Zimmerman already looked better than him this year. As much as I like the guy, Keaton had a terrible deep ball. That said, I am still in the fire Rudolph camp, but I don't see that happening. Rudolph ended Molbergs career. 1 Quote
UND-1 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Rudolph ended Molbergs career. Not true at all, and if it is then Schleusner and Mussman ended his career, also, because they didn't think he was the guy either. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 He was playing well enough as a soph to be giving the job for his career. Rudolph preferred the little quick qb who could only throw 40 yards and under at a 50% clip and throw more ints than tds as a senior. Quote
UND-1 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: He was playing well enough as a soph to be giving the job for his career. Rudolph preferred the little quick qb who could only throw 40 yards and under at a 50% clip and throw more ints than tds as a senior. Wrong. Two different staffs deemed him "not their guy". That is a fact. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 56 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: He was playing well enough as a soph to be giving the job for his career. Rudolph preferred the little quick qb who could only throw 40 yards and under at a 50% clip and throw more ints than tds as a senior. Mollberg had all the tangibles to be a good quarterback. I think he just needed the coaching and system to put it altogether. Unfortunately, Rudolph didn't provide him that. The Mussman system in 2013 wasn't good either as the running game and defense were non-existent (throwing to Hardin and Golladay were pluses, though). Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, UND-1 said: Wrong. Two different staffs deemed him "not their guy". That is a fact. So the staff had him start 7 and appear in 10 games and that was because he was deemed "not their guy"? PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G Joe Mollberg 10-7 117.6 141-241-13 58.5 1729 7 80 172.9 Ryan Bartels 8-4 130.3 116-190-6 61.1 1396 8 75 174.5 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Mollberg had all the tangibles to be a good quarterback. I think he just needed the coaching and system to put it altogether. Unfortunately, Rudolph didn't provide him that. The Mussman system in 2013 wasn't good either as the running game and defense were non-existent (throwing to Hardin and Golladay were pluses, though). Right before he got injured he was showing that he was making the next step. I felt he was on the verge of actually being a really good/great qb for us then his achilles ruptured and Rudy had his opening to bury him on the depth chart. Quote
UND-1 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: So the staff had him start 7 and appear in 10 games and that was because he was deemed "not their guy"? PASSING GP-GS Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G Joe Mollberg 10-7 117.6 141-241-13 58.5 1729 7 80 172.9 Ryan Bartels 8-4 130.3 116-190-6 61.1 1396 8 75 174.5 Yep. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Right before he got injured he was showing that he was making the next step. I felt he was on the verge of actually being a really good/great qb for us then his achilles ruptured and Rudy had his opening to bury him on the depth chart. I do recall his progress up until that 2014 SUU game; however, I think the receiving corps and running game (or lack thereof) would've still limited his success that season. I understand your point of view, just don't completely agree with it. Now, if he was in a system with better receivers and running backs, it could've been a different story. Quote
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