Gameday: F'N Hawks vs Bobcats

[jdub27]

38 minutes ago, mooncountry said:

Based on the hype I expected he'd see more time by now????

A sophomore who has barely seen the field the two previous years and is coming into a completely new system behind two juniors who were both all conference isn't seeing extensive playing time and you are confused? 

I'm not saying he won't contribute in the future and I think he has good potential but seems unfair to take shots and get some sort of strange satisfaction out of unrealistic expectations you chose to put on him or buy into.

[gundy1124]

14 minutes ago, mooncountry said:

Not trying to portray anything... I expected JJ to play more because he's a local transfer from a B10 school. Big and fast. Maybe he'll get in more and more, idk. Maybe he can play LB too... maybe he just isn't that good...

Derailed- f'n spell check.

We flawfully play a system on offense, don't use our talent, I have been critical of that.

[Midwestern Hawk]

23 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Which is a problem. This years team has a glass jaw. They have shown no ability to hang in there are regroup. 

I feel like this is a huge problem.  Nobody seems to take the bull by the horns when the chips are down.  There is still time, but someone needs to get it going in the right direction and stop making excuses.

 

[BigGame]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 3:57 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

So you think high school kids should be able to come on campus and immediately start performing at a high level? It doesn't work that way in any sport, especially FB. "Next man up" only works when you have built quality depth throughout the program and that doesn't happen overnight. Bubba and company are in this for the long haul and I believe our best days are ahead of us.

Except USD had true frosh OL kicking the crap out of UND's experienced and strength of the team DL.  So yes it isn't the norm but freshman that have been recruited and redshirted should be ready to go.  Or at least some of them should be ready to play at a high level.  

[MoSiouxFan]

9 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

How? We went from a TD to a blocked FG. That's a massive change in momentum.

Totally agree.  Obviously, we'll never know what difference it ultimately would have made, but it would have been a momentum-producing punch in MSU's gut for us vs. a deflating having nothing to show for what was an excellent opening drive.

[BigGame]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 4:04 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

I thought the linebackers were the backbone of a 3-4 defense?

The LB's get the tackles but without the DL holding space and taking up blockers they suffer and both DL and LB are pretty bad right now.  

[BigGame]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 5:05 PM, Longtime fan said:

Wrong!   It's should be pretty apparent that the D has always been there to bail out Rudy when he was busy on eBay or whatever else he is doing during the game.  The D can't bail out the offense this year do to injuries.   I guess all I'm saying is that it seems that Rudy is better on the World Wide Web then he is at that football thingy.  Proof is very much alve 

I think you win the biggest d bag fan award!  I get constructive criticism but you sir or mam are just an A hole.  Ban me if necessary, but internet assholes without a clue are just the worst.  After watching that game you still are going after the OC, that is crazy because he is way down the list of issues for this team right now. 

[BigGame]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 8:14 PM, Irish said:

Rudolph

So Brady has dropped a few passes this year, just like every WR on the team.  If you watched the play in which he made the MSU all conference LB miss after the catch you wouldn't or shouldn't have such and issue with the play.    

[BigGame]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 8:30 PM, Longtime fan said:

Defensively speaking...injuries are the only problem.  If UND had Connor and Donnell and Cam and Noah at ILB and Deion and Evan at cb and Andre an Cole at safety they would be one of the top Ds on the fcs.   As it is...nope! 

No they wouldn't, the problems are much deeper than a handful of players.  The best LB's don't have a shot when the DL is getting pushed around and right up into them.  Yes those players would help but it wouldn't completely fix all the problems.  

[BigGame]

10 hours ago, Milford torgerson said:

Now you are grasping at straws.

That play is a huge kick in the balls to a team that was already struggling and needed some confidence.  I don't think you can say it made a difference in the outcome of the game but it was a big deal. 

[SiouxVolley]

Disterhaupt was on a video in UNDSPORTS where he says "we're so close" to stopping MSU's offense.  He emphasized that the mistakes are getting closed.  Could that be reality?

Did the yotes recognize some tendency and took advantage of it and MSU followed through on the yotes tactics?

[Midwestern Hawk]

4 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

Disterhaupt was on a video in UNDSPORTS where he says "we're so close" to stopping MSU's offense.  He emphasized that the mistakes are getting closed.  Could that be reality?

Did the yotes recognize some tendency and took advantage of it and MSU followed through on the yotes tactics?

IMO they are close on some assignments, but a bigger problem overall is that when the linebackers are in the right spot they either can't make the play or the ball carrier gets another 2-5 yards after contact.

[Longtime fan]

6 hours ago, BigGame said:

I think you win the biggest d bag fan award!  I get constructive criticism but you sir or mam are just an A hole.  Ban me if necessary, but internet assholes without a clue are just the worst.  After watching that game you still are going after the OC, that is crazy because he is way down the list of issues for this team right now. 

Big game aka Rudolph 

[Midwestern Hawk]

6 hours ago, BigGame said:

No they wouldn't, the problems are much deeper than a handful of players.  The best LB's don't have a shot when the DL is getting pushed around and right up into them.  Yes those players would help but it wouldn't completely fix all the problems.  

This is basically the same dline that won the Big Sky last season.  They don't seem to be making plays either.  

[Oxbow6]

6 hours ago, BigGame said:

I think you win the biggest d bag fan award!  I get constructive criticism but you sir or mam are just an A hole.  Ban me if necessary, but internet assholes without a clue are just the worst.  After watching that game you still are going after the OC, that is crazy because he is way down the list of issues for this team right now. 

He's still the top of the list..... unfortunately some other coaches decided they want to join him on the list after the past 2 weeks.

[Longtime fan]

On 9/24/2017 at 11:49 PM, BigGame said:

No they wouldn't, the problems are much deeper than a handful of players.  The best LB's don't have a shot when the DL is getting pushed around and right up into them.  Yes those players would help but it wouldn't completely fix all the problems.  

Can you fill us in as to what the deeper concerns outside of injuries are? 

Of the injuries that I mentioned .. two already garnered All American status while one (Donnell) will garner all American before he graduates.  All eight would of been in the two deep. 

You say the best linebackers don't have a shot when the front gets pushed? Remember ratelle and taj??  They had the exact front, minus Noah, that this year has, but when the front was basically freshman.  So yes, the best backers do make a difference...a massive difference.   Connor was a capt as a jun for a reason....he was highly intelligent and the qb of the D.  He made the reads and called the plays. With Connor and Donnell you have experienced 230lb backers instead of inexperienced 200 lbs.

Losing Cole and Deion speaks for itself.  Evan being the fastest player on the team was just turning the corner on the coverage skills he lacked as a true fresh.

Defensively up front , Tank does his job by typically occupying two OL.  That allows one LB to watch the gaps inside. Having Connor and Donnell would have made a big difference with the wear and tear inside. Having the offense go three and out puts a ton of pressure on the light backers UND has now. The TOP is being dominated by the opposing teams this year, that wears on the lightweight inexperienced backers and D in general 

Is the D perfect ...no!  But the injuries are the reason why they are failing.

 

[homer]

54 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

IMO they are close on some assignments, but a bigger problem overall is that when the linebackers are in the right spot they either can't make the play or the ball carrier gets another 2-5 yards after contact.

Can't tackle from your knees.  Fundamentals are not sharp right now.  

[geaux_sioux]

I think we're also missing Obrien's passion on d. Not only was he making the calls but he was also the guy who got the most excited after making plays.

[UNDColorado]

I'm still here so hoping I don't get labeled a bandwagon fan. This is rough to say the least. Going into the season I thought we could handle losing Deon due to some decent depth in the secondary. Then the rest of the team started dropping and the perfect storm ensued. My goal now is to finish 6-5 and keep it respectable. This is not the team I watched in Utah and I hope others understand that. I will be watching every week. I have faith in most of the staff and I hope these players dig deep and take a long look in the mirror.

[BigGame]

4 hours ago, Longtime fan said:

Big game aka Rudolph 

Actually never even met the guy as I haven't lived in the area for a long time.  You are just a d-bag that can't seem to get past one thing which isn't even close to the biggest issue right now.  I tend to have coaches backs more often than not because most fans are clueless about what actually goes on beyond game day.  

[Longtime fan]

2 minutes ago, BigGame said:

Actually never even met the guy as I haven't lived in the area for a long time.  You are just a d-bag that can't seem to get past one thing which isn't even close to the biggest issue right now.  I tend to have coaches backs more often than not because most fans are clueless about what actually goes on beyond game day.  

You're right, Rudolph is a masterful  OC...my bad. 

[BigGame]

3 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

This is basically the same dline that won the Big Sky last season.  They don't seem to be making plays either.  

They have got it handed to them the last two weeks.  Some of it is scheme as well though, I have watched the DL stunt out of plays a lot which means the player is struggling but the staff is getting out coached and is putting them in bad spots.  I think Schmidt needs to do a little self scouting and break some tendencies.  That being said it's really hard to stop the run when pretty much every RB is getting 2 and 3 yards after contact.  Lot's to fix in the run defense right now! 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

I'm going to copy UNDColorado here "I'm still here so hoping I don't get labeled a bandwagon fan." 

I was fishing Saturday without a working phone or radio. When I heard the final FB score that evening, my stomach dropped about 6" and my knees dam near gave out. This news, after the SD coaching mastery, puts us as a long shot for a team that could make a deep run in the playoffs. Now, opposing coaches and players are beating us at all aspects of the game.

Our depth is not near as good as the preseason word on the street may have been.

Injuries are our biggest part of the problem. And without the depth, the rest of the team also begins to struggle, the whole team becomes less efficient. Football is such a team sport, and when opposing teams have great success against your weaknesses, your mental part of the game can begin to deteriorate, including coaches. Then the possibility for every player not playing to their potential. After the players have felt last season's positives,  we could more likely be at this sad point now.

This is a real challenge for our coaches. The rest of the season will show us what kind of coach Bubba really is? What he can do with the rest of the staff? Need to get players fired up and play well. Need changes in games approach and play calling because opposing teams have figured us out?

 

[Sioux94]

12 hours ago, MoSiouxFan said:

Totally agree.  Obviously, we'll never know what difference it ultimately would have made, but it would have been a momentum-producing punch in MSU's gut for us vs. a deflating having nothing to show for what was an excellent opening drive.

Not getting that TD was huge, not saying we for sure win the game or something if we do but if we get a TD there........mentally I think we are feeling good and moving on from the USD game.  But after that, and then getting the field goal blocked.......that was a huge blow in momentum, especially since they came down and scored right after.  It just felt like a continuation from the USD game after we got that field goal blocked.  That one sack that we had their QB for a 7-8 yard loss and he totally got out of it and then they later scored a TD on the drive was also big.  

[Sioux94]

15 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

I feel like this is a huge problem.  Nobody seems to take the bull by the horns when the chips are down.  There is still time, but someone needs to get it going in the right direction and stop making excuses.

 

I thought Keaton was playing inspired and trying to get the team going, he had a couple of nice runs that got the crowd excited and got us some momentum....we just couldn't seem to keep it.  He did miss a few throws on Saturday, although a couple of them could have been on the WR not being in the right place....not sure.   We haven't used Keaton in the run game much this year.  At this point I'd say open it up and use him a little more, he's a senior....I'm sure he wants to make any play that he can.  He has been able to break some big runs the last couple of years right up the middle.  Also I don't think I've seen the fullback get the ball recently, I'm guessing that is because Norberg is out.  We often did pretty well on that fullback plunge when they weren't expecting it.