UND-FB-FAN Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: I like this newly found optimism you've found Just realism after this weekend’s clunkers from Montana and Weber. Quote
Sioux94 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Just realism after this weekend’s clunkers from Montana and Weber. It would be nice to run the table, but if we go 5-1 the rest of the way we'll still be in the playoffs. Many teams have clunkers during the year so I won't be surprised if we drop a game somewhere. We do need to beat both Weber and Montana though. The NAU game is the game on the schedule that has worried me the most since the start of the season, just because it's a game we should win but NAU always seems to be so up and down. Let's start this weekend and beat Montana and take it from there. Quote
Dustin Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp Weber St. at #13, SHSU at #15, Montana at #22, ISU increased their votes received, and NAU is receiving votes also. Quote
Dustin Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Dustin said: http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp Weber St. at #13, SHSU at #15, Montana at #22, ISU increased their votes received, and NAU is receiving votes also. And PSU is Team of the Week. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cratter said: Can anyone explain to me how Weber State has a better resume than UND? They didn't go 3-8 last year... Quote
Cratter Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: They didn't go 3-8 last year... And I realized I mistook Illinois State for Idaho State at #12. Throws my argument out the window lol. Quote
Cratter Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 With that said, UNDs only FCS loss is to a higher ranked team than Weber States only FCS loss.... UNDs best win this season is also ranked higher than Weber States best win....and they both have 3-2 overall records. Both played Northern Colorado a week apart. UND won at UNC by 25. Weber won at home by 17. 1 3 Quote
Sioux94 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Cratter said: With that said, UNDs only FCS loss is to a higher ranked team than Weber States only FCS loss.... UNDs best win this season is also ranked higher than Weber States best win....and they both have 3-2 over all records. Perception of your program and history obviously is still playing a factor in the polls even after 5 weeks in. We must take care of business this weekend. I'll take even a 1 point win...because a win is a win......but I'd really like to beat Montana 35-17 or something like that. Idaho St. is not even ranked and they just have 1 loss which is an FBS loss. They play at UC Davis next week, that should be interesting and will likely be a shootout. If Idaho State beats UC Davis, will be curious to see what will happen in the polls....they will definitely be in...but how high. Pollsters might just say.....ahhh UC Davis was over-rated and it's not that big of a win. The whole MVFC teams beat each other up because they are all so good, but if a Big Sky team beats another one....it's because none of them are good. Portland State > Montana > UNI Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, Cratter said: With that said, UNDs only FCS loss is to a higher ranked team than Weber States only FCS loss.... UNDs best win this season is also ranked higher than Weber States best win....and they both have 3-2 overall records. Both played Northern Colorado a week apart. UND won at UNC by 25. Weber won at home by 17. facts not feelings..... 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 UNI is not ranked. The zombie apocalypse must be here. 2 2 Quote
Cratter Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Sioux94 said: Idaho St. is not even ranked and they just have 1 loss which is an FBS loss. Which is why I confused the "I" States in the poll. I would have surely thought Idaho State would be ranked and above Weber State at that. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 These polls are garbage. They need to go to an rpi system for playoff selection with autobid. No reason to have a subjective selection process. The biggest joke was UNI being one spot away from being ranked. That’s how you know this is a joke 1 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 The FCS polls use another system beyond voting that isn’t public. A team gets points for how many wins they have had in the playoffs for the past twenty years and deducts points for every year missed for twenty years, but the points deducted do not apply for Montana and UNI. In fact, Montana and UNI got bonus points for playing each other. UCDavis, Idaho St, Weber St, UND and Montana St should all have more votes than Montana who had a bad loss to PSU by any logical voter, but their isn’t any in FCS. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: The FCS polls use another system beyond voting that isn’t public. A team gets points for how many wins they have had in the playoffs for the past twenty years and deducts points for every year missed for twenty years, but the points deducted do not apply for Montana and UNI. In fact, Montana and UNI got bonus points for playing each other. UCDavis, Idaho St, Weber St, UND and Montana St should all have more votes than Montana who had a bad loss to PSU by any logical voter, but their isn’t any in FCS. I could only guess who may be added to that list down the road? Quote
bincitysioux Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 2:32 PM, Dustin said: http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp Weber St. at #13, SHSU at #15, Montana at #22, ISU increased their votes received, and NAU is receiving votes also. LOL to this poll. Idaho St. is in first place in the Big Sky Conference, and they are in the "Others Receiving Votes" category. I used to think the STATS poll meant something. Not so much anymore.......................... Having said that, they've also got North Dakota in the Playoff Field this week................................. Quote
Hawkster Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: LOL to this poll. Idaho St. is in first place in the Big Sky Conference, and they are in the "Others Receiving Votes" category. I used to think the STATS poll meant something. Not so much anymore.......................... Having said that, they've also got North Dakota in the Playoff Field this week................................. A win on Saturday will put us back in the respectable column in a lot of polls. We've had way too many ups and downs the last 2 seasons but that should all change on Saturday. Quote
AJS Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 I wish there was a week that everyone would agree on that he pollsters would take a deep dive into their rankings. Let's say Week 6, toss out the rankings before and truly look into them (as if they were the playoff committee) and really reset. 2 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 10, 2018 Author Posted October 10, 2018 5 hours ago, AJS said: I wish there was a week that everyone would agree on that he pollsters would take a deep dive into their rankings. Let's say Week 6, toss out the rankings before and truly look into them (as if they were the playoff committee) and really reset. That really wouldn't be fair to Montana & Northern Iowa. Quote
SkoHawks Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 How far will the Grizz shoot up the polls this week with a quality loss this Saturday? That's what I wanna know!! 1 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 11, 2018 Author Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, SkoHawks said: How far will the Grizz shoot up the polls this week with a quality loss this Saturday? That's what I wanna know!! If you watch, you will also see the Northern Iowa guy. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 12, 2018 Author Posted October 12, 2018 FCS Stats Poll - I picked 9 teams. Black # top 25 rank. Blue # are receiving points. Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 Webr 10 11 7 6 6 13 NArz 18 20 `50pt 22pt 36pt ND 28pt 9pt 22 61pt 65pt 60pt Mtn 14 15 19 17 14 22 MtnSt 169pt 36pt 112pt 229pt 70pt 50pt IdahSt 28pt 54pt 246pt SD 23 22 249pt 203pt 162pt 24 SamH 4 5 11 21 17 15 NIowa 21 21 25 23 22 251pt We were ranked in week 3. If we lose, Montana stays in Top25. We need a W. Quote
Dustin Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-top-25-poll-week-8-bzbz this was posted over in the 2018 Season thread, but since it a poll, I though I would put it here as well. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dustin said: https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-top-25-poll-week-8-bzbz this was posted over in the 2018 Season thread, but since it a poll, I though I would put it here as well. That’s a really solid poll. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 15, 2018 Author Posted October 15, 2018 Still thinking they'll be like 22 in FCS Stats. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ #23 in the Sagarin Quote
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