Blackheart Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Since when does ESPN care about hockey? Not since Tom Mees (RIP) was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It must say something when they show highlights of UND women's hockey all you see is empty seats and maybe 3 people in a whole section. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Outside the Lines: Fabled women's program....Did you know the team was practicing when the decision came down? And there was a recruit on campus....also lumped in the USA hockey story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Heidi Heitkamp comparing the women's team to the men's 8 national titles. "women's hockey needs more time". You haven't won any title in 15 years of existence, how much time do you need Heidi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, darell1976 said: Heidi Heitkamp comparing the women's team to the men's 8 national titles. "women's hockey needs more time". You haven't won any title in 15 years of existence, how much time do you need Heidi. totally glossed over the giant elephant in the room.....2 million dollars a year!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Bob Ley did bring up the $1.9m yearly deficit and asked if this was a sustainable model. Heitkamp says the sport is new and that it needs to be given more time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Blackheart said: Bob Ley did bring up the $1.9m yearly deficit and asked if this was a sustainable model. Heitkamp says the sport is new and that it needs to be given more time. i meant heidi...2 millions dollars...just give it time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So its been the usual talking points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, SWSiouxMN said: So its been the usual talking points Only without the Lameroux twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakFan Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 And Sen. Heitkamp glossed over the big question of is $1.9M a year sustainable. Color me shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 How come she hasn't got us more $$$ if she wants to keep it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted April 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2017 Did you know ESPN refuses to spend a few grand to send a crew to the NCAA WIH championship? Beyond that, they refuse to give up a couple hours of Sportscenter reruns on ESPN 8 to even air the game? Women's fencing championship coverage? Yep. Women's bowling championship coverage? Yep. Women's hockey? Nope, CBS Sports can have that tax write-off. But we (ESPN) are going to pretend to support you now. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Kind of a mini-segment for Women's Hockey as it was sandwiched in between the hiring of Patrick Ewing at G'Town segment and a piece on Ernie Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Did you know ESPN refuses to spend a few grand to send a crew to with NCAA WIH championship? Beyond that, they refuse to give up a couple hours of Sportscenter reruns on ESPN 8 to even air the game? Women's fencing championship coverage? Yep. Women's bowling championship coverage? Yep. Women's hockey? Nope, CBS Sports can have that tax write-off. But we (ESPN) are going to pretend to support you now. yeah but, espn has a spelling bee to cover this time of year.... because that's sports, and stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: yeah but, espn has a spelling bee to cover this time of year.... because that's sports, and stuff. Don't forget the double-dutch jump roping championships.:) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 47 minutes ago, darell1976 said: Heidi Heitkamp comparing the women's team to the men's 8 national titles. "women's hockey needs more time". You haven't won any NCAA playoff games in 15 years of existence, how much time do you need Heidi. FYP 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 As usual I was impressed with Bob Ley. He usually at least tries to give both sides of a story light. It was funny when he dropped that 1.9 million vs 35k tidbit with Heitkamp and she tap danced around it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: totally glossed over the giant elephant in the room.....2 million dollars a year!!!! Everybody keeps saying this but I read an article this week and was surprised to find out that football lost $2.9 million this year... I get it, football has a ton more potential than women's hockey but I was still surprised by that number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, WiSioux said: Everybody keeps saying this but I read an article this week and was surprised to find out that football lost $2.9 million this year... I get it, football has a ton more potential than women's hockey but I was still surprised by that number You reading the Lamoureux Times? No they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, UND-1 said: You reading the Lamoureux Times? No they didn't. According to this blog post from Rob Post (no idea if he's legit) football lost $2,923,313... http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/und-sports-programs-lost-13-3-million-2016/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, WiSioux said: According to this blog post from Rob Post (no idea if he's legit) football lost $2,923,313... http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/und-sports-programs-lost-13-3-million-2016/ That includes baseball. Year old numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, WiSioux said: According to this blog post from Rob Post (no idea if he's legit) football lost $2,923,313... http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/und-sports-programs-lost-13-3-million-2016/ Apparel sales, Champions Club donations, and TV revenue not allocated. Even so, $2.9 million over 100 students = $29,000 per student athlete. WIH was $80,000 each. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, WiSioux said: According to this blog post from Rob Post (no idea if he's legit) football lost $2,923,313... http://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/und-sports-programs-lost-13-3-million-2016/ Is he adding the direct institutional support? That is a separate area. Maybe that is how he got final numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 hours ago, gfhockey said: What else has been cut? Nothing in news??? Just because you aren't paying attention ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, UND-1 said: Is he adding the direct institutional support? That is a separate area. Maybe that is how he got final numbers. He excluded it for all sports. Makes the numbers look worse obviously. Not sure I agree his method but it is arguable. It's more than likely a combination of "earned" and "unearned" revenue. Things like work study and mandated tuition waivers are included in there as are things like unrestricted funds and unrestricted endowment funds directed by the University. The NCAA report is very useful, however it also has a significant amount of revenues and expenses that are unallocated and is by no means perfect. Wish more schools would make it public... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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