Diversity Issues on Campus

[MafiaMan]

20 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

All that but the herald missed the fact that the siouxper drunk t shirts people were not even UND students. Add in the fact that springfest is not a UND sanctioned event. Those pesky facts.

That's what I was pointing out.  Ask Joe Citizen about what happened and he'll likely tell you it was when some UND students got into trouble over some shirts.  Hell, google that story and you'll find out that rarely does one say that they were NOT in fact UND students.  

Mission accomplished.  

[ScottM]

Can't fix clueless ...

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, ScottM said:

Can't fix clueless ...

This is either:

(a) Another terrible, unseemly incident, or
(b) Four chicks, affiliations unknown, getting mud facials, took a pic and someone (again who and affiliations unknown) modified the picture and used to prank the uptight sphincters in admin. 

(I'm now looking out my window for the UPD car to pull up for that (b) thing. Surely that was offensive.) 

[Vegas_Sioux]

I thought this picture was from a few years ago

[The Sicatoka]

Next thing you know Louis and Mike won't be allowed to go mudding. 

[dagies]

49 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

This is either:

(a) Another terrible, unseemly incident, or
(b) Four chicks, affiliations unknown, getting mud facials, took a pic and someone (again who and affiliations unknown) modified the picture and used to prank the uptight sphincters in admin. 

(I'm now looking out my window for the UPD car to pull up for that (b) thing. Surely that was offensive.) 

The one on the right looks like a guy to me

[The Sicatoka]

Just now, dagies said:

The one on the right looks like a guy to me

If that's the case, then I've really gone and done it ... 

[The Sicatoka]

15 minutes ago, Vegas_Sioux said:

I thought this picture was from a few years ago

Why do you say that? You think you've seen the photo before? 

[ScottM]

3 minutes ago, dagies said:

The one on the right looks like a guy to me

Perhaps he(?) "identifies" as a she.

[UNDfaninMICH]

17 minutes ago, Vegas_Sioux said:

I thought this picture was from a few years ago

When I run it through a google search for that picture, I don't find anything other than sites that allege it came from UND. Not saying that it did come from UND, just saying I can't find anything that suggests it is old. 

 

[Cratter]

At least the Star Tribune admits in the article "We don't know if this photo has anything to do with UND."

[MafiaMan]

1 hour ago, ScottM said:

Can't fix clueless ...

Funny how when a story like this comes up, it's "local" news to the folks at the Star Sickle, but when it's the NCAA Frozen Four last spring, I didn't find A SINGLE BOX SCORE, LET ALONE AN ARTICLE on the event.  I suppose I shouldn't be surprised...

[mksioux]

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“We are moving as fast as we can,” Kennedy wrote. “I understand that we all would like a swift resolution. However, our society, our legal system and campus conduct processes are predicated on due process. We must maintain the integrity of our policies and procedures by following due process.”

Speak for yourself Kennedy.  I, for one, do not want a "swift resolution."  I want any investigative process to be slow, deliberate, and above all, fair with full due process rights.  I don't like Kennedy pandering to the pitchfork mob and treating due process as some unfortunate pesky procedural barrier to an immediate tar and feathering.  

 

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A team will be directed by Kennedy to learn about diversity education practices at other universities that could be implemented at UND.

“As I have said before, we value diversity and inclusion and take seriously respect for others as well as the exchange of different thoughts and ideas,” Kennedy said. “To achieve the vision of One UND, we must take steps to demonstrate these values across our university community.

I do not defend the action of these girls.  Even before social media, a stunt like this would have been stupid.  And it's especially dense to do something like this in the age of social media and in this tense racial climate.  But the actions of a few teenage girls does not warrant a wholesale onslaught of "diversity re-education" which usually ends up amounting to nothing more than left-wing political, social, and cultural indoctrination. 

Kennedy used to be a Republican, and so he may be overcompensating here to establish his liberal bona fides to his new peers in academia.  But if a few teenage girls acting stupid on a Saturday night ends up being the pretext for the establishment of a re-education indoctrination program at UND, I will have to re-assess my support for this institution.  And I would expect legislators would take notice as well.  

[Vegas_Sioux]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Why do you say that? You think you've seen the photo before? 

Yeah I thought it was a group of suite mates doing a mud mask that someone got a hold the picture a couple years ago. 

[dagies]

20 hours ago, mksioux said:

Speak for yourself Kennedy.  I, for one, do not want a "swift resolution."  I want any investigative process to be slow, deliberate, and above all, fair with full due process rights.  I don't like Kennedy pandering to the pitchfork mob and treating due process as some unfortunate pesky procedural barrier to an immediate tar and feathering.  

I didn't take it that he was trying to make it a swift process.  I thought he was trying to communicate that the best process is the one that follows the correct protocols, and that would be done in this case.

[Sioux>Bison]

If Kennedy stoops to the level of the whinny liberals then maybe my donations will need to be redirected to a different cause. Students or not colleges should not discipline student for expressing their first amendment rights whether they are in poor taste or not.

[Teeder11]

11 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

If Kennedy stoops to the level of the whinny liberals then maybe my donations will need to be redirected to a different cause. Students or not colleges should not discipline student for expressing their first amendment rights whether they are in poor taste or not.

Kennedy's not stooping to anyone. He's doing the right thing by getting to the bottom of what's going on. If you want to see a bigger !@#$ storm than what's already played out, just have Kennedy ignore these allegations. FAIR OR NOT, UND already has a national reputation for being tone deaf to racial issues. Ignoring this new episode of allegations would not help our situation. 

[UNDBIZ]

16 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:

Kennedy's not stooping to anyone. He's doing the right thing by getting to the bottom of what's going on. If you want to see a bigger !@#$ storm than what's already played out, just have Kennedy ignore these allegations. FAIR OR NOT, UND already has a national reputation for being tone deaf to racial issues. Ignoring this new episode of allegations would not help our situation. 

Yeah he's in a tough spot. He will need to dish out some form of punishment or provide a good explanation that is backed by the "locked out" student. If punishment is necessary, it better not be expulsion or donors and the legislature will be angry. 

[dagies]

In this day and age these were stupid posts to put on social media.   But they weren't particularly threatening either.   These are good learning opportunities for kids who may have had little exposure to a diverse environment and the implications of social media.  I can remember back to when I was at college and did some pretty stupid stuff. I could have easily done something this thoughtless (and probably did) but because we lacked social media it didn't wrongly implicate a whole institution, and the ramifications to me were not so severe.  With maturity and exposure you gain more wisdom about how to interact socially.

If the resulting investigation proves some sort of punishment is warranted, fine.  But I don't think these situations raise to the level of the worst of racial discrimination or threat.  

[Cratter]

How about the president forms a committee to study the issue.

Seems to be the answer to every issue on campus.

[MafiaMan]

33 minutes ago, Cratter said:

How about the president forms a committee to study the issue.

Seems to be the answer to every issue on campus.

I think we'll need to form a sub-committee first to study that idea.  

[UNDBIZ]

34 minutes ago, Cratter said:

How about the president forms a committee to study the issue.

Seems to be the answer to every issue on campus.

Are the SJWs still complaining?  I haven't noticed anything in a few days.  Figured they found something else to harp on.

[Fetch]

Diversity is a code word for more PC BS

[SWSiouxMN]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4130114-und-finds-no-code-violations-two-racially-charged-photo-incidents

 

[Vegas_Sioux]

8 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4130114-und-finds-no-code-violations-two-racially-charged-photo-incidents

 

Probably not what the pc crowd was hoping for. I like how they tied in the first amendment. Stating the code of student life can't trump the first amendment.