Goon Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Awesome. I really hope that the logo designer doesn't blow it. This concept would work. I love the football helmets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Emerald joker Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, GLABS said: I don't like that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 21 minutes ago, GLABS said: Too much like this: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, GLABS said: Thanks for checking out the designs and the whole presentation is available at UND REBRAND PRESENTATION. More back story: We worked independently on this major re-brand all last Summer and Fall as part of a project to come up with concepts and strategies for transitioning teams around America with Native American nicknames. In the sports design world this is a huge issue, made even harder by the battle lines that are drawn by both sides. Another such battle we were following was also occurring at Watertown High in (MA) last June. The designs that we released today are totally free of design by committee compromises that would water down a true "transition brand" direction, which is needed to appeal to the most number of fans in the UND Community, create a wide adoption and set the brand up for a successful future. To that end, we purposely nuanced the back feathers of the revered Native American hawk symbol to create an identity that would serve as a source of pride for those on all sides of the issue. Our 2nd "Thunderbird" design does this in a slightly different way. We were also keenly aware that the only way to break through the deep passion for the Fighting Sioux nickname, is a with a powerful brand identity that respects the past with elements that tie the new brand to the old. For those wondering, definitely, we have no affiliation with other designers. Just wanted to put solid design concepts out there and let fans weigh in. I really like your second concept. It would look great on UNIs and hats and shirts. I'd buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dagies Posted February 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 hours ago, darell1976 said: Too much like this: IMO not even close 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 hours ago, Hayduke said: A hawk is a bird. A bird has feathers. I doubt the NCAA would take any action. I like this logo design. Get 'er done! Only the freaking NCAA could find trouble with a bird having feathers and I wouldn't put it past them. My God, if that happens then ban all nicknames/logos now. Nice design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 14 hours ago, GLABS said: Thanks for checking out the designs and the whole presentation is available at UND REBRAND PRESENTATION. More back story: We worked independently on this major re-brand all last Summer and Fall as part of a project to come up with concepts and strategies for transitioning teams around America with Native American nicknames. In the sports design world this is a huge issue, made even harder by the battle lines that are drawn by both sides. Another such battle we were following was also occurring at Watertown High in (MA) last June. The designs that we released today are totally free of design by committee compromises that would water down a true "transition brand" direction, which is needed to appeal to the most number of fans in the UND Community, create a wide adoption and set the brand up for a successful future. To that end, we purposely nuanced the back feathers of the revered Native American hawk symbol to create an identity that would serve as a source of pride for those on all sides of the issue. Our 2nd "Thunderbird" design does this in a slightly different way. We were also keenly aware that the only way to break through the deep passion for the Fighting Sioux nickname, is a with a powerful brand identity that respects the past with elements that tie the new brand to the old. For those wondering, definitely, we have no affiliation with other designers. Just wanted to put solid design concepts out there and let fans weigh in. Did your company fill out the rfp for the UND project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 15 hours ago, GLABS said: The designs that we released today are totally free of design by committee compromises ... Well that will never work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLABS Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 hours ago, choyt3 said: Did your company fill out the rfp for the UND project? No, we didn't participate. We felt it was more important to release visuals that would work best for this situation, and that meant tying them back to the Native American heritage and tapping into the deep #SiouxForever fans base. With 73% of fans still disapproving of the Fighting Hawks nickname (especially compared Fighting Sioux), we were of the opinion that it will be very tough for any design firm to overcome the situation with a generic "hawk" logo and totally break form the past. Designs have to fit the situation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, GLABS said: No, we didn't participate. We felt it was more important to release visuals that would work best for this situation, and that meant tying them back to the Native American heritage and tapping into the deep #SiouxForever fans base. With 73% of fans still disapproving of the Fighting Hawks nickname (especially compared Fighting Sioux), we were of the opinion that it will be very tough for any design firm to overcome the situation with a generic "hawk" logo and totally break form the past. Designs have to fit the situation. Interesting theory/thought process and some pretty decent designs. I don't disagree that it will be tough for SME (or whoever else would have got the contract) to come up with something, that is just a given but I'm not really following the part where a firm just does something like this "just because" and then releases. I'm also pretty curious on where you are getting the 73% disapproval figure from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I really like option #1; it's the best I've seen anywhere IMO. I don't mean to sound glib GLAB, but I guess I don't understand this line of work and how this will have any bearing on what happens now that SME has been hired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I really like these logos. However, I have a bad feeling SME is going to design a very politically correct, bland logo. I genuinely hope I am wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 25 minutes ago, GLABS said: No, we didn't participate. We felt it was more important to release visuals that would work best for this situation, and that meant tying them back to the Native American heritage and tapping into the deep #SiouxForever fans base. With 73% of fans still disapproving of the Fighting Hawks nickname (especially compared Fighting Sioux), we were of the opinion that it will be very tough for any design firm to overcome the situation with a generic "hawk" logo and totally break form the past. Designs have to fit the situation. Great work. I really do like them both, but, you did it just for funsies? Looking for the cheap pop. Thanks for pandering to us. Bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, GLABS said: No, we didn't participate. We felt it was more important to release visuals that would work best for this situation, and that meant tying them back to the Native American heritage and tapping into the deep #SiouxForever fans base. With 73% of fans still disapproving of the Fighting Hawks nickname (especially compared Fighting Sioux), we were of the opinion that it will be very tough for any design firm to overcome the situation with a generic "hawk" logo and totally break form the past. Designs have to fit the situation. I get where you are coming from, but don't see a market for a "transitional logo", as UND is certain to block any representation of their name at the very least. As much as those 73% dislike the new nickname, and I'm certainly included in that though not certain on the numbers, the Fighting Hawks is not going away in the foreseeable future. We are stuck with it. And SME has been tasked with creating the new official logo to accompany that nickname. I must be missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77iceman Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I desgned a logo just for fun...took me ten minutes. That looks to be a lot of effort for zero return. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, choyt3 said: I get where you are coming from, but don't see a market for a "transitional logo", as UND is certain to block any representation of their name at the very least. As much as those 73% dislike the new nickname, and I'm certainly included in that though not certain on the numbers, the Fighting Hawks is not going away in the foreseeable future. We are stuck with it. And SME has been tasked with creating the new official logo to accompany that nickname. I must be missing something. Yeah, you must have missed GLABS' previous two business ventures: driving an ice cream truck outside the walls of a fat farm, and selling roller skates at the Shriners Hospital. Next they will be selling meth outside of rehab clinics. Not sure I get the point of teasing angry and emotionally-fried people with what they cannot have, but whatever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, 77iceman said: I desgned a logo just for fun...took me ten minutes. That looks to be a lot of effort for zero return. 5 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Yeah, you must have missed GLABS' previous two business ventures: driving an ice cream truck outside the walls of a fat farm, and selling roller skates at the Shriners Hospital. Next they will be selling meth outside of rehab clinics. Not sure I get the point of teasing angry and emotionally-fried people with what they cannot have, but whatever. It's simple... get the support from a group of people that are supporting their logos.... get twitter follows/mentions, facebook comments/shares, IG posts.... retweet, share, repost.... "HEY look at the potential new FH logo! These are sweet! I'd TOTALLY be on board if they looked like this!" .... exposure of brand.... $$$ Well done, GLABS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, stoneySIOUX said: It's simple... get the support from a group of people that are supporting their logos.... get twitter follows, facebook mentions/share, IG posts.... exposure of brand.... $$$ Well done, GLABS. But honestly, how many Sioux fans are in the market for design services at any given moment? The ROI on the design time here has got to be super low. Did these yahoos even submit a bid to UND? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, NoiseInsideMyHead said: But honestly, how many Sioux fans are in the market for design services at any given moment? The ROI on the design time here has got to be super low. Did these yahoos even submit a bid to UND? No, they didn't. And it's not about any of us buying anything from them... it's about exposure. Every retweet/share/repost from a Sioux fan goes out to thousands of new people that can see their logos. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: No, they didn't. And it's not about any of us buying anything from them... it's about exposure. Every retweet/share/repost from a Sioux fan goes out to thousands of new people that can see their logos. Exactly right Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 23 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Exactly right Stone It's EXACTLY what they are doing... get the support from a group of people that are supporting their logos.... get twitter follows/mentions, facebook comments/shares, IG posts.... retweet, share, repost.... "HEY look at the potential new FH logo! These are sweet! I'd TOTALLY be on board if they looked like this!" .... exposure of brand.... $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimdahl Posted February 25, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's concept art. You do it for practice, to develop a portfolio, and to get your work seen. https://www.behance.net/danestorrusten My prior was against transitional logos that incorporate the feathers, but this one does feel well done to me. Good job. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, jimdahl said: It's concept art. You do it for practice, to develop a portfolio, and to get your work seen. https://www.behance.net/danestorrusten My prior was against transitional logos that incorporate the feathers, but this one does feel well done to me. Good job. Agreed on all points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, jimdahl said: It's concept art. You do it for practice, to develop a portfolio, and to get your work seen. https://www.behance.net/danestorrusten My prior was against transitional logos that incorporate the feathers, but this one does feel well done to me. Good job. Serious question, as I don't know the field. Are there not ethical problems with including in one's "portfolio" work that was neither solicited nor used, where the "clients" never engaged the artist and are otherwise readily identifiable? Does "concept art" permit an artist to mislead future prospective clients as to past engagements? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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