The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 12 hours ago, SlowHand said: If you guys really want to show your disapproval with the new name and logo, just wear NDSU gear to games. Disapproval means there's conscious thought, intelligence, to decide whether you like or dislike something. What you propose shows the opposite of intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux34 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 It is safe to say that I will never buy a piece of fighting Hawk gear. Sorry, that is just the way I roll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, sioux34 said: It is safe to say that I will never buy a piece of fighting Hawk gear. Sorry, that is just the way I roll. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchyAlum11 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I will reserve judgement on whether or not i will buy anything with Hawks on it until the new logo is unveiled, as i have previously stated I am not optimistic that they will put forward a logo that will be good let alone great. Even if they do, loading up on fighting hawks stuff is not going to be high on my priorities list, I have plenty of Sioux and UND stuff for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 http://survincity.com/2011/03/egyptian-sun-god-ra/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmina Ewin Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I love it! It's nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77iceman Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 On 1/4/2016 at 0:44 PM, Blackheart said: This just in...It is possible to support the school without using the CURRENT nickname. Like it or not, they ARE NOT the Sioux anymore. Nobody is bashing on anyone for still sporting the Sioux gear (hell, I still wear mine), but it seems to be alright to bark at anyone who's moved on and accepts the new name. Maybe I'll wear a Sioux shirt and a F'n Hawks hat and see what happens. Someone's head will certainly explode 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 50 minutes ago, 77iceman said: Like it or not, they ARE NOT the Sioux anymore. Nobody is bashing on anyone for still sporting the Sioux gear (hell, I still wear mine), but it seems to be alright to bark at anyone who's moved on and accepts the new name. Maybe I'll wear a Sioux shirt and a F'n Hawks hat and see what happens. Someone's head will certainly explode It is unfortunate that people who wear Fighting Hawks merchandise with the new logo are going to be labeled as traitors and "not true fans." H ow A bout W e K eep cheering for The University of North Dakota athletic teams and student athletes and and unite under the new name S o we can move forward and focus this athletic department on on the field/court/ice success and winning as opposed to debating nickname issues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 There are more fans out there than you think that want to remember the past but also embrace the future. Everyone needs to respect what some people might think. This University needs some positivity, not more negativity. If people are going to be labeling people as traitors and "not true fans" you are harming the situation rather than helping the University. Nobody has to wear Hawks gear, that is your choice. Please don't disrespect the people that loved the Sioux name but also are willing to accept the new name. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 So the real argument is what is best for our athletic teams, student athletes and the University. 1. Accept change by embracing the new nickname at the same time respecting the past nickname. 2. Reject change by boycotting the new nickname by holding on to the past nickname. Obviously there are many levels in between those that fans are currently at. But I have yet to hear an argument that justifies option #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Mentioning new logo, wordmarks, etc ... < tapping foot > < glancing down at watch > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjr Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 On 1/7/2016 at 4:38 PM, Fetch said: http://survincity.com/2011/03/egyptian-sun-god-ra/ Oh my Ra, this needs to be cross posted and go viral . . . best idea for a fighting hawks logo possible. If they roll with a Ra inspired fighting hawk, they can take all my money and we will replace the greatest logo in sports with the next greatest logo in sports. This would honestly save the entire debacle for me (short of keeping the nickname, rolling as just North Dakota, this is the best possible solution). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjr Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, joeyjr said: Oh my Ra, this needs to be cross posted and go viral . . . best idea for a fighting hawks logo possible. If they roll with a Ra inspired fighting hawk, they can take all my money and we will replace the greatest logo in sports with the next greatest logo in sports. This would honestly save the entire debacle for me (short of keeping the nickname, rolling as just North Dakota, this is the best possible solution). Seriously, FB, tweet, email SME Branding . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77iceman Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Ra...suppose that imagery would offend any native egyptians? i'm not even kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, 77iceman said: Ra...suppose that imagery would offend any native egyptians? i'm not even kidding. I have the headpiece to the staff of Ra...you're digging in the wrong place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 12 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: It is unfortunate that people who wear Fighting Hawks merchandise with the new logo are going to be labeled as traitors and "not true fans." H ow A bout W e K eep cheering for The University of North Dakota athletic teams and student athletes and and unite under the new name S o we can move forward and focus this athletic department on on the field/court/ice success and winning as opposed to debating nickname issues. Traitors? That seems a little excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted May 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2016 Wear Sioux gear. Wear Hawks gear. Wear UND gear without a nickname. I don't care. Just cheer on the teams in green and white. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 41 minutes ago, Hayduke said: Wear Sioux gear. Wear Hawks gear. Wear UND gear without a nickname. I don't care. Just cheer on the teams in green and white. This is what it should be about!!!! Post of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Hayduke said: Wear Sioux gear. Wear Hawks gear. Wear UND gear without a nickname. I don't care. Just cheer on the teams in green and white. 1 hour ago, darell1976 said: This is what it should be about!!!! Post of the year! Couldn't disagree more. So having some fans cheer "Go Sioux", some fans cheer "Go Hawks" and some fans cheering "Go North Dakota" or nothing at all is a good thing? A divided fan base? Fans yelling Hawks and having people get mad at them "giving into the PC crowd" or fans yelling Sioux and having other fans telling them to move on is going to be good for this fanbase? The next few years are going to be completely miserable for UND fans. I really believe that. This will be the hardest part of this whole nickname debacle. There will be a new nickname and logo. It will be everywhere. Yet there will be fans cheering for 2 different nicknames at sporting events. We will have a divided fanbase. It's going to happen. Only question is how long it will last. No matter what, it is definitely NOT "what it should be about" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I was in Tampa for the Frozen Four. Our fan base was not divided. Lots of schools are envious of our fan support! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 So it is what it is - Freedom of Choice & in time something could change a few minds ....but I doubt it I'LL BE A FIGHTING SIOUX FOREVER but will give Fighting Hawks a chance might even buy a F'n Hawk tee shirt or hat too but it will never be as beloved as Sioux It does bother me we never won with Bens Sioux head in a official capacity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darell1976 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Couldn't disagree more. So having some fans cheer "Go Sioux", some fans cheer "Go Hawks" and some fans cheering "Go North Dakota" or nothing at all is a good thing? A divided fan base? Fans yelling Hawks and having people get mad at them "giving into the PC crowd" or fans yelling Sioux and having other fans telling them to move on is going to be good for this fanbase? The next few years are going to be completely miserable for UND fans. I really believe that. This will be the hardest part of this whole nickname debacle. There will be a new nickname and logo. It will be everywhere. Yet there will be fans cheering for 2 different nicknames at sporting events. We will have a divided fanbase. It's going to happen. Only question is how long it will last. No matter what, it is definitely NOT "what it should be about" I think you missed the point of his post, instead of putting down the Fighting Sioux (or Hawk) fan lets all unite and cheer for UND. Wear whatever gear you want, if you have Flickertail gear go for it, it all represents the same school that everyone needs to cheer for. This is the transitional period that all schools that had their name changed go through, we are not even a year into the new name, we don't have a logo yet, so people not embracing the new name is understandable, what is NOT understandable is people branding the new nicknamers as non UND supportive, which is wrong. Don't agree with the name fine, but don't put down someone for embracing it when its the same school you are cheering for. At least that is what I got out of his post. 10 years, heck maybe 5 years from now things may be a whole lot different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, darell1976 said: I think you missed the point of his post, instead of putting down the Fighting Sioux (or Hawk) fan lets all unite and cheer for UND. Wear whatever gear you want, if you have Flickertail gear go for it, it all represents the same school that everyone needs to cheer for. This is the transitional period that all schools that had their name changed go through, we are not even a year into the new name, we don't have a logo yet, so people not embracing the new name is understandable, what is NOT understandable is people branding the new nicknamers as non UND supportive, which is wrong. Don't agree with the name fine, but don't put down someone for embracing it when its the same school you are cheering for. At least that is what I got out of his post. 10 years, heck maybe 5 years from now things may be a whole lot different. And I think you missed my point. I am not going to sit here and tell people what to wear and not to wear and what to say and what not to say at UND sporting events. My point is that we are going to have a divided fan base. Some fans will cheer "Sioux", some ill cheer "Hawks", and some will cheer neither. Same goes for merchandise people wear as well. The debate is whether that is going to be just fine or if that is going to cause division in our fan base. I believe it will cause division. And to be honest, makes UND fans look really dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Any I think you missed my point. I am not going to sit here and tell people what to wear and not to wear and what to say and what not to say at UND sporting events. My point is that we are going to have a divided fan base. Some fans will cheer "Sioux", some ill cheer "Hawks", and some will cheer neither. The debate is whether that is going to be just fine or if that is going to cause division in our fan base. I believe it will cause division. And to be honest, makes UND fans look really dumb. Being divided is dumb and hopefully it decreases as time goes by but I'm sure at Marquette, Arkansas St, and others it happened there too. Just give it time and with a new logo hopefully the name can take off (no pun intended). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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