AZSIOUX Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Shaw is more than qualified for this job, his son is a hell of a player. Hiring HS coaches happens all over the nation in college BBALL and most probably aren't qualified. Hayden has been commited to und. This isn't that type case. Nothing wrong with a little outside thinking for a team who hasn't won a natty I'm 15 years. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 So it's a want my kid hire me Or a want me hire my Dad kind a deal ? Shaw has been a commit long before Hak left for the Flyers and the need for an assistant coach came up. 2 Quote
siouxczech29 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Could this be the reason KT is on the fence about retuning? Anticipated nepotism? Oops...jumped the gun with this comment. Glad to have KT back! Quote
SJHovey Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Shaw looks like an interesting addition. A lot of pretty good experience, working with good coaches. Did a pretty solid job developing young players with the Houston Aeros. Quite a few former UND players have also played for him, including Russ Romaniuk, Curtis Murphy, Travis Roche, Brad Williamson, Bryan Lundbohm, Aaron Schneekloth and Travis Zajac. Perhaps most impressive of all, it looks like he was on the roster of the juggernaut U.S. International team that came into Grand Forks and thumped the Hrkac Circus in the 1986-87 season. 1 Quote
siouxczech29 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Shaw looks like an interesting addition. A lot of pretty good experience, working with good coaches. Did a pretty solid job developing young players with the Houston Aeros. Quite a few former UND players have also played for him, including Russ Romaniuk, Curtis Murphy, Travis Roche, Brad Williamson, Bryan Lundbohm, Aaron Schneekloth and Travis Zajac. Perhaps most impressive of all, it looks like he was on the roster of the juggernaut U.S. International team that came into Grand Forks and thumped the Hrkac Circus in the 1986-87 season. Impressive information here too SJH! Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Perhaps most impressive of all, it looks like he was on the roster of the juggernaut U.S. International team that came into Grand Forks and thumped the Hrkac Circus in the 1986-87 season. Ha! I saw that! small group that can say they beat that team! Quote
bigskyvikes Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 So it's a want my kid hire me Or a want me hire my Dad kind a deal ? I've never seen you be such a fire starter before, what gives? Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Ive reached crumedjion stage as a D1 hockey fan Careful, you're nearing gfhockey stage as a typist. Quote
Fetch Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I do respect a man who can spell words more than one way Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Shaw is more than qualified for this job, his son is a hell of a player. Hiring HS coaches happens all over the nation in college BBALL and most probably aren't qualified. Hayden has been commited to und. This isn't that type case. Nothing wrong with a little outside thinking for a team who hasn't won a natty I'm 15 years. ? He was much more than a high school coach. Quote
Csonked Out Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Does Gretsky have any kids ? Wayne Gretzky does have one attractive daughter! Quote
AZSIOUX Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 ? He was much more than a high school coach. Sorry my point is Shaw isn't going to be hired because of his kid and vice versa. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Does Gretsky have any kids ? He has a son, but he's not much of a hockey player. We played pond hockey with him at University Park during the WJC tourney when it was in GF. I think he's a very good baseball player though. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 He has a son, but he's not much of a hockey player. We played pond hockey with him at University Park during the WJC tourney when it was in GF. I think he's a very good baseball player though.Yes solid baseball player and Ty skated before coyotes games a lot and had a shirt stint at shattuck as he got older. I worked under wayne and others two who were UND grads in front office that season. wayne was super cool! Yes Paulina is smokin Quote
cberkas Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 He has a son, but he's not much of a hockey player. We played pond hockey with him at University Park during the WJC tourney when it was in GF. I think he's a very good baseball player though. Trevor is part of the Angels organization. Ty played at Shattuck-St. Mary's in 2005-06 and 2006-07. Tristan is the youngest son. He also has 2 daughters. Quote
brianvf Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Trevor is part of the Angels organization. Ty played at Shattuck-St. Mary's in 2005-06 and 2006-07. Tristan is the youngest son. He also has 2 daughters. I didn't realize he had three sons. Not sure which one we played hockey with then...he would have been like mid-teens when the WJC was going on. Quote
cberkas Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I didn't realize he had three sons. Not sure which one we played hockey with then...he would have been like mid-teens when the WJC was going on. Probably Ty he's 24 now, Trevor is 22 and Tristan is 14. Quote
burd Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Trevor is part of the Angels organization. Ty played at Shattuck-St. Mary's in 2005-06 and 2006-07. Tristan is the youngest son. He also has 2 daughters. The man could score 1 Quote
jk Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 The man could score Out of many outstanding posts over the years, maybe your best. Quote
dagies Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 So it's a want my kid hire me Or a want me hire my Dad kind a deal ? Nobody hires a non-worthy assistant coach only to land the kid's commitment. Quote
SJHovey Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I think a more interesting question, assuming Shaw does get the job, is the "coach's kid" effect. I don't think we've ever really had to handle anything like that at UND. Probably the closest situation is Poolman. Those are always delicate situations, I don't care how good a player the kid is or how good a coach the father is. I think it helps that Shaw won't be the head coach, but it's something to watch. We're in pretty good shape in that Hayden Shaw will be walking into a situation where there are five really good, proven defensemen ahead of him. But issues of playing time between him and Wolanin, time on the power play at the expense of guys like Thompson or Poolman, or similar issues are sure to surface at some point. Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I think a more interesting question, assuming Shaw does get the job, is the "coach's kid" effect. I don't think we've ever really had to handle anything like that at UND. Probably the closest situation is Poolman. Those are always delicate situations, I don't care how good a player the kid is or how good a coach the father is. I think it helps that Shaw won't be the head coach, but it's something to watch. We're in pretty good shape in that Hayden Shaw will be walking into a situation where there are five really good, proven defensemen ahead of him. But issues of playing time between him and Wolanin, time on the power play at the expense of guys like Thompson or Poolman, or similar issues are sure to surface at some point. This is the first thing I thought about. Both Shaw and Wolanin are very good and they will be battling for that 6th spot. I've seen it go both ways, either the kid's dad plays him when he shouldn't have won the spot, or the dad is too hard on the kid and the kid sits only due to the perceived perception that could arise. Either way, it's good Berry is there to make the final call on everything. He knows that side of the ice pretty well 1 Quote
burd Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I think a more interesting question, assuming Shaw does get the job, is the "coach's kid" effect. I don't think we've ever really had to handle anything like that at UND. Probably the closest situation is Poolman. Those are always delicate situations, I don't care how good a player the kid is or how good a coach the father is. I think it helps that Shaw won't be the head coach, but it's something to watch. We're in pretty good shape in that Hayden Shaw will be walking into a situation where there are five really good, proven defensemen ahead of him. But issues of playing time between him and Wolanin, time on the power play at the expense of guys like Thompson or Poolman, or similar issues are sure to surface at some point. Valid points. Asking a bunch of high end talents (and even the grinders are high end at this level) to accept a role that is different from how it has been for them in the past is difficult in any situation but something UND coaches have excelled at IMO. But father/son would probably increase the level of difficulty at least somewhat. But if they do hire Shaw, I'm sure they will have considered all the personality and character factors involved. Quote
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