Siouxperfan7 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 No, you're reading more into it than what's really there. While it is true that college football is more popular than college hockey, unless you've surveyed the viewers of the Coastal - NDSU game, you have no idea whether they are general college football fans, fans of FCS football, or fans of one of the schools involved or how many there were in each category. All we know is that more people watched that game than watched the NCAA frozen four final. In fact, twice as many. I get what you are doing. You are coming on here bragging about how many people watched the Bison play. Implying but not actually saying it was because NDSU football is such a bil deal, millions tune in to watch them. And at the same time riping college hockey because you have no vested interest in it. I think its awesome that 1..2 million people watched an FCS playoff game. Shows that FCS football is popular and I am glad my team plays at that level. So why your insults and arrogance were suttle, they are still there to pick up on. And hey, thanks for coming over here to let every know!!
geaux_sioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 What is the percentage supposed to be representing? (I know 9 out of 60 is 15%) The percentage is apparently representing someone's lack of handle on valid statistics......
nosidel Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 What is the percentage supposed to be representing It's just a clumsy rehash of the "it's better to be a big fish in a small pond" argument UND fans have been making for years. Unfortunately, he can't find numbers that really make his point.
Teeder11 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I have no idea. I just was pointing out the mistake he made in his other post because several other posters thought it was an amazing statistic. Thought so. And it most likely holds true for your debate-mate,as well.
bisonboone11 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 The percentage is apparently representing someone's lack of handle on valid statistics...... It's just a clumsy rehash of the "it's better to be a big fish in a small pond" argument UND fans have been making for years. Unfortunately, he can't find numbers that really make his point. Yes. He really does seem to be struggling.
nosidel Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I get what you are doing. You are coming on here bragging about how many people watched the Bison play. Implying but not actually saying it was because NDSU football is such a bil deal, millions tune in to watch them. And at the same time riping college hockey because you have no vested interest in it. I think its awesome that 1..2 million people watched an FCS playoff game. Shows that FCS football is popular and I am glad my team plays at that level. So why your insults and arrogance were suttle, they are still there to pick up on. And hey, thanks for coming over here to let every know!! No, the argument was explicit: NDSU has gotten more media exposure from its football team than UND has from its hockey team. These TV ratings indirectly (since UND wasn't in the Frozen Four Finals last year) support that argument.
FightingSioux87 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Don't forget the und hockey games that tsn has picked up! 2 und hockey games to be correct...
Redneksioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Who cares? What is the point of this back and forth? Good point! It means nothing. I just find it funny that if ndsu football is supposedly the most relevant athletic team in the state, why do bison fans have to come here to defend their team's honor?
Teeder11 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Good point! It means nothing. I just find it funny that if ndsu football is supposedly the most relevant athletic team in the state, why do bison fans have to come here to defend their team's honor? I have no idea. I have never visited, or even commented on, any of their message boards. Is it the same over there -- anyone who knows? Are there a lot of UND fans that troll their site? I've just never had the interest. I guess I get enough of them over here.
geaux_sioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Our online football team would smoke your online football team
Hayduke Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Ok boonie boy how about this one? Ndsu football - 9 guys in the nfl this year - 60 ncaa scholarships - 15% Und hockey - 13 guys in the NHL this year - 18 ncaa scholarships - 72% 9%? Not bad for the University of Agriculture and Applied Science. D-1 in name, but in reality we all know it's second tier. That's pretty impressive for that level of football. 72% for UND Hockey. That's to be expected. It's one of the elite college hockey programs in the nation. I was curious, so I looked it up. Ohio State ....32 players in the NFL. Based on 85 scholarships: 38% That's to be expected from an elite football program in Division 1 sports.
geaux_sioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Their 9 is more impressive considering they have FBS above them and UND is the top college hockey level 1
nosidel Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Their 9 is more impressive considering they have FBS above them and UND is the top college hockey level And when you consider that the NFL has 10X the TV ratings of NHL hockey.
geaux_sioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 And when you consider that the NFL has 10X the TV ratings of NHL hockey. It's irrelevant to my point. 1
nosidel Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 It's irrelevant to my point. OK, but it's not irrelevant to Redneksioux's point. Which, as I understand it, is that UND hockey has more impact because it has more NHL players than NDSU has NFL players.
Teeder11 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 OK, but it's not irrelevant to Redneksioux's point. Which, as I understand it, is that UND hockey has more impact because it has more NHL players than NDSU has NFL players. Have you proven whose is bigger yet? 1
Redneksioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Their 9 is more impressive considering they have FBS above them and UND is the top college hockey level Top college hockey level is correct but ncaa d1 hockey as the number one feeder to the NHL is debatable. Canadian junior hockey produces more nhl'ers than ncaa d1 hockey.
geaux_sioux Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Top college hockey level is correct but ncaa d1 hockey as the number one feeder to the NHL is debatable. Canadian junior hockey produces more nhl'ers than ncaa d1 hockey. So it's kinda like FCS then? 1
Shawn-O Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Top college hockey level is correct but ncaa d1 hockey as the number one feeder to the NHL is debatable. Canadian junior hockey produces more nhl'ers than ncaa d1 hockey. Wait whoa...so the Frozen Four is really for 61st place?
Teeder11 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 What does any of this have to do with the thread topic? 1
petey23 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I would hold off the not so close. I want to to know the answer for sure, but I counted on this site: http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/number-of-nfl-players-by-college/2014/ 352 FCS players were on NFL rosters for this season. The number is a little lower than it was at the beginning of the season. In 2012 there were just over 300 who played NCAA D1 hockey http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/21792005/college-hockey-players-increasing-in-number-importance-in-nhl%3Cspan%20class . Im sure that number is a little higher now this season. Also have to keep in mind NFL rosters are much bigger but just wanted to provide numbers. If anybody has the current NHL numbers thatd be great. If those numbers are accurate, a crazy amount of FCS players have made their way onto NFL rosters over the last 2 seasons! In 2012, 8.32% of players on NFL rosters came from the FCS ranks so if this number is accurate that has almost doubled to 16.2%. Amazing when you consider that last year the number had dropped to about 7%. http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/01/22/in-fcs-huddle-nfl-all-fcs-team/ The number of college players in the NHL has grown quite a bit the last few seasons. 31% last year http://collegehockeyinc.com/in-the-nhl and over the last 7 years over 35% of players making their debut have come from the college ranks. I am thinking the 352 number must have been training camp numbers when rosters are at 90 which would be around 12% and then after cuts with allowance for injured reserve and practice squads it settles in at about 8-9% which to me is still an impressive number when you think about it. that is roughly between 150-200 players that either by choice or by being overlooked by the FBS schools have made it to the NFL....there certainly is something to be said for developing at a FCS school where a player might start for 2-4 seasons versus maybe only starting for a year or 2 at a higher level.
Shawn-O Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Those NFL numbers are who went into camp, not opening day regular season rosters.
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 No, the argument was explicit: NDSU has gotten more media exposure from its football team than UND has from its hockey team. These TV ratings indirectly (since UND wasn't in the Frozen Four Finals last year) support that argument. Yes. I agree. Not sure why you have to come over to a UND fan site to tell us that. We all know this. Do we wish UND would get that type of exposure, yes. We get it. Congrats. What more do you want from us?!! 1
The Sicatoka Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Why are people are bickering about number of fans at games hundreds of miles away? Cool to have fans at games but goodness gracious people. Hoe. Lee. Crap. It's really gone off the rails when Johnboy seems the rational one.
90siouxfan Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Who cares? What is the point of this back and forth?I think it like the old playground game of spinning someone blindfolded in circle and then letting them run. But we are using math on the bizuns, same effect
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