siouxfaninseattle Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 Has there been any talk from St. Thomas about joining the NCHC? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 11:09 PM, siouxfaninseattle said: Has there been any talk from St. Thomas about joining the NCHC? Expand I imagine they would jump at the chance to join a league as prestigious as the NCHC. Of course, a lot of things would have to happen first. It is never too early to think about the next five and ten years. 2 Quote
nodak651 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 9:21 PM, SiouxHawkGuy said: NCHC (Summit?) East/West? West - Air Force Arizona State Augustana CC DU Omaha East - Bemidji State Minnesota State Saint Cloud Saint Thomas Duluth North Dakota Expand Dont see it.. What's the advantage of going that big? Also, you guys not see Schlossmans article? Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 3:20 AM, nodak651 said: Dont see it.. What's the advantage of going that big? Also, you guys not see Schlossmans article? Expand It is the “national” hockey conference. Atlantic is at 10, ECAC is at 12, and Hockey East is at 11. ASU, AU, UST all brand new arenas. 2 Quote
nodak651 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 3:33 AM, SiouxHawkGuy said: It is the “national” hockey conference. Atlantic is at 10, ECAC is at 12, and Hockey East is at 11. ASU, AU, UST all brand new arenas. Expand What's the benefit? 2 Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 3:47 AM, nodak651 said: What's the benefit? Expand Just an idea. Having Miami and WMU in the CCHA and having the Minnesota schools (outside of the goofs) together in a conference makes sense to me. Plus ASU needs a conference and Air Force is close to DU and CC. Quote
petey23 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 Leave the Summit out of it. Has Miami stated they want to leave or is that speculation? Add Arizona State. I know Bowling Green wanted in a few years back, not sure if that still holds true. If Miami left and Arizona State is added that would be alright. If Miami stays and Arizona State is added and they wanted a 10th I would say Bowling Green, Air Force, and St. Thomas would be best additions. Have to be a little careful with St. Thomas if the league is under The Summit flag as there is quite a bit of talk in the cities of St. Thomas moving most of their Athletic programs to The Big East at some time in the future. 1 Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 Maybe it’s just me but I think MAC schools should be in the CCHA and summit schools in the NCHC. Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 3:47 AM, nodak651 said: What's the benefit? Expand Tommie fans would outdraw Miami and Western fans combined at the Frozen Faceoff. 1 Quote
petey23 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:21 AM, SiouxHawkGuy said: Maybe it’s just me but I think MAC schools should be in the CCHA and summit schools in the NCHC. Expand I don't think WMU for sure and Miami at least previously wanted to be in a conference with a bunch of division 2 schools and UND and Denver didn't want to be in a conference with a bunch of division 2 schools either and UNO obviously made it known that Hockey is the primary sport on their campus, St. Cloud had to beg and convince the other members they would be committed to hockey financially(and they have been true to their word) when the league could not come to an agreement with Notre Dame to be the 8th team. I remember seeing Motzko and Gasparini together in Grand Forks a couple of times(once at the Pepper) and if I remember correctly I think Gino lobbied on their behalf. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:29 AM, SiouxHawkGuy said: Tommie fans would outdraw Miami and Western fans combined at the Frozen Faceoff. Expand And then some. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:38 AM, petey23 said: I don't think WMU for sure and Miami at least previously wanted to be in a conference with a bunch of division 2 schools and UND and Denver didn't want to be in a conference with a bunch of division 2 schools either and UNO obviously made it known that Hockey is the primary sport on their campus, St. Cloud had to beg and convince the other members they would be committed to hockey financially(and they have been true to their word) when the league could not come to an agreement with Notre Dame to be the 8th team. I remember seeing Motzko and Gasparini together in Grand Forks a couple of times(once at the Pepper) and if I remember correctly I think Gino lobbied on their behalf. Expand i do wonder about how safe CC is and maybe even UMD & SCSU are...maybe fenton wants "BIG TIME" schools only... Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 all d1 summit hockey? UND Denver Omaha St Thomas Miami Western Michigan Bowling Green Arizona State Air Force the other UND? Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 The only switch that will happen is MIAMI out to CCHA ASU in to NCHC That's the only realistic change in the 5 to likely 10 year future. NCHC under summit or a summit league is not going to happen, it would be foolish and absolutely not in the best interest of UND DU or UMD.... and frankly that's who matter and swing the biggest..... sticks. Out past 10 years from now.. who knows, that all depends on the growth of D1 programs in the west, and a different conversation. UND etc, isn't going to allow the NCHC to be watered down into an afterthought sport in a plucky low level also-ran league like the summit is in the grand scheme. It's not happening, foolish to take it seriously. 3 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:30 PM, Frozen4sioux said: The only switch that will happen is MIAMI out to CCHA ASU in to NCHC That's the only realistic change in the 5 to likely 10 year future. NCHC under summit or a summit league is not going to happen, it would be foolish and absolutely not in the best interest of UND DU or UMD.... and frankly that's who matter and swing the biggest..... sticks. Out past 10 years from now.. who knows, that all depends on the growth of D1 programs in the west, and a different conversation. UND etc, isn't going to allow the NCHC to be watered down into an afterthought sport in a plucky low level also-ran league like the summit is in the grand scheme. It's not happening, foolish to take it seriously. Expand who would you rather have as a conference member (remember you can still play OTHER schools OOC) ......as a fan and as a commish Arizona State or UM-Duluth Air Force or CC Bowling Green or SCSU pretty easy for me.... Quote
Goon Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:37 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: who would you rather have as a conference member (remember you can still play OTHER schools OOC) ......as a fan and as a commish Arizona State or UM-Duluth Air Force or CC Bowling Green or SCSU pretty easy for me.... Expand Air force isn't joining the NCHC, unless the NCHC added Army. Plus, they'd have a very hard time competing on a year-to-year basis in the NCHC. 4 Quote
Goon Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:30 PM, Frozen4sioux said: DU and UND aren't going to allow the NCHC to be watered down into an afterthought sport in a plucky low level also-ran league like the summit is in the grand scheme. It's not happening, foolish to take it seriously. Expand FYP, and I agree. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:44 PM, Goon said: FYP, and I agree. Expand explain "watered down" Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:43 PM, Goon said: Air force isn't joining the NCHC, unless the NCHC added Army. Plus, they'd have a very hard time competing on a year-to-year basis in the NCHC. Expand probably not...but it's a possibility...plus they can still play army ooc Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:43 PM, Goon said: Air force isn't joining the NCHC, unless the NCHC added Army. Plus, they'd have a very hard time competing on a year-to-year basis in the NCHC. Expand i know travel doesn't mean much to AF but....just saying Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 4:43 PM, Goon said: Air force isn't joining the NCHC, unless the NCHC added Army. Plus, they'd have a very hard time competing on a year-to-year basis in the NCHC. Expand cc hasn't been relevant for ...........decades? Quote
Goon Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 5:00 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: cc hasn't been relevant for ...........decades? Expand Seriously, there's not reason to have this discussion, the NCHC isn't going to add Airforce. If the NCHC added Air Force Acadamy to the conference it would water down the league. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 5:08 PM, Goon said: Seriously, there's not reason to have this discussion, the NCHC isn't going to add Airforce. If the NCHC added Air Force Acadamy to the conference it would water down the league. Expand agree if you say add AF and you kept cc but if we added AF and dropped CC that's a win for Summit hockey Quote
Popular Post Godsmack Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 30, 2023 Even by AF’s own admission, I bet they wouldn’t want to join the NCHC. Between their tough academic standards and the fact that they can only recruit Americans, I think they’re happy in Atlantic hockey where, for the most part, they’ve been competitive. 7 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 5:16 PM, Godsmack said: Even by AF’s own admission, I bet they wouldn’t want to join the NCHC. Between their tough academic standards and the fact that they can only recruit Americans, I think they’re happy in Atlantic hockey where, for the most part, they’ve been competitive. Expand WWGCD? Quote
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