Gothmog Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Could they.......maybe Should they......No Will they......No. Why are we still talking about this?!! Oh, I'd say the discussion is slowly dying as predicted events fail to happen. The shift in tone I mentioned is a symptom. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 13 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Oh, I'd say the discussion is slowly dying as predicted events fail to happen. The shift in tone I mentioned is a symptom. You realize SV was the only one supporting those predictions right? Everyone else was just telling the bizun to go away. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 8, 2016 Author Posted July 8, 2016 Still no word from any of the bizon trolls where Wichita State is going to find an FBS home. WSU hates the idea of MVFC. Troll minds can't wrap around that concept. Quote
Hayduke Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Could they.......maybe Should they......No Will they......No. Why are we still talking about this?!! Because it's a "jubilee"year. 1 Quote
Cratter Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Would argue the same for UND, as hockey will predominate football at the FCS level. Whereas at NDSU, FCS is where they hang their hat. Some of my buds (originally from "the cities") love UND hockey and won't miss a game, but won't go near the Alerus and watch "D2" ball even with free tickets. Its a large untapped market within the UND student population that UND needs to move to even for perceived perspective if it ever wants to increase its attendance long term. 2 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 9, 2016 Author Posted July 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, Hayduke said: Because it's a "jubilee"year. Spiritual concepts are beyond certain people. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 9, 2016 Author Posted July 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Cratter said: Some of my buds (originally from "the cities") love UND hockey and won't miss a game, but won't go near the Alerus and watch "D2" ball even with free tickets. Its a large untapped market within the UND student population that UND needs to move to even for perceived perspective if it ever wants to increase its attendance long term. Agree totally. As much as some people dismiss this, FCS as a brand is looked at as inferior. A high performing athletics school like Wichita St doesn't like the FCS label. Why should UND. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 2 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Still no word from any of the bizon trolls where Wichita State is going to find an FBS home. WSU hates the idea of MVFC. Troll minds can't wrap around that concept. Why would we care about WS? I certainly dont as they dont have squat to do with NDSU. But Im sure your over active vivid imagination says otherwise. 2 Quote
bison73 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: Agree totally. As much as some people dismiss this, FCS as a brand is looked at as inferior. A high performing athletics school like Wichita St doesn't like the FCS label. Why should UND. Because if you dont the others will pass you by. You arent going anywhere. Quote
Herd Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 7 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Since bizon trolls are such all-knowing of everything FCS, why does Wichita St hate the idea of the MVFC? That has never been answered here even though even Kolpack has written about it. Why does the Wichita St President want FBS and seems likely they will get a football only invite? Which conference will give them that invite? Those questions have never been answered by trolls. Wichita St is a lot like UND. Basketball school vs hockey school. Similar enrollments. Both emphasize aerospace, business, and entreprenship. Why would Wichita St be after FBS, when they could be in the penultimate FCS conference, but clearly reject it.? Wichita obviously sees itself as nationally relevant in Basketball, and also wants its football to be as nationally relevant as possible. At this point they are nieve enough to think they could be top 25 in FBS football. If Wichita would stoop to the level of WAC sports, it would be for a cup of coffee until they moved to the MW, AAC, or CUSA. Hey if UND wants to be FBS, go for it, anyone can do it.Coastal just did it, anyone can. What are you waiting for? Your hockey profile will be a huge boost . . . Er money drain. Quote
Herd Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 4 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Still no word from any of the bizon trolls where Wichita State is going to find an FBS home. WSU hates the idea of MVFC. Troll minds can't wrap around that concept. Wichita would get their Asses kicked in the Mvfc for a lot of years. Yes, they hate the idea of Mvfc football. As an FBS startup, they could play a weak schedule and avoid the Mvfc. Their basketball would eventually get them in the MW, AAC or CUSA. Und's hockey and basketball profile could get you in the WAC or the NSIC. Quote
Hayduke Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Spiritual concepts are beyond certain people. Thankfully, the ability to spot misguided lunacy isn't. Quote
Cratter Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Herd said: Wichita would get their Asses kicked in the Mvfc for a lot of years. Says a guy who's team heard that same thing? Quote
Cratter Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Remember the last five consecutive d3 champs? Yeah me neither. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Cratter said: Remember the last five consecutive d3 champs? Yeah me neither. You first have to know who they were to remember them. ButI would that be like asking the majority of sports fans who won the pucknut championship? Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 9, 2016 Author Posted July 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Herd said: Wichita obviously sees itself as nationally relevant in Basketball, and also wants its football to be as nationally relevant as possible. At this point they are nieve enough to think they could be top 25 in FBS football. If Wichita would stoop to the level of WAC sports, it would be for a cup of coffee until they moved to the MW, AAC, or CUSA. Hey if UND wants to be FBS, go for it, anyone can do it.Coastal just did it, anyone can. What are you waiting for? Your hockey profile will be a huge boost . . . Er money drain. UND is much more capable of an FBS move than Coastal. 6 hours ago, Herd said: Wichita would get their Asses kicked in the Mvfc for a lot of years. Yes, they hate the idea of Mvfc football. As an FBS startup, they could play a weak schedule and avoid the Mvfc. Their basketball would eventually get them in the MW, AAC or CUSA. Und's hockey and basketball profile could get you in the WAC or the NSIC. UND hockey will end up affiliated with PAC12 teams. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 Is that impressive? Having a hockey team affiliated with a PAC team? Your hockey team was affiliated with several B1G schools at one time or another. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Herd said: Wichita would get their Asses kicked in the Mvfc for a lot of years. Yes, they hate the idea of Mvfc football. As an FBS startup, they could play a weak schedule and avoid the Mvfc. Their basketball would eventually get them in the MW, AAC or CUSA. Und's hockey and basketball profile could get you in the WAC or the NSIC. Lol what? A school who wants to be FBS is worried about the Missouri Valley teams beating them for a few years?? Quote
Herd Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: UND is much more capable of an FBS move than Coastal. UND hockey will end up affiliated with PAC12 teams. What are you waiting for then? If joining today's FBS level provides a boost to self confidence to the alumni and will get them to buy tix, then by all means join up if you can find a conference home. Being a the bottom of today's FBS or being at the top of the FCS is pretty much the same football being played. 1 Quote
Herd Posted July 9, 2016 Posted July 9, 2016 21 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: Lol what? A school who wants to be FBS is worried about the Missouri Valley teams beating them for a few years?? What school? Wichita State specifically. Wichita State fans have had their noses up in the air for a lot of years about mvfc football. They would avoid mvfc football at all costs, maintaining their perception that mvfc football is beneath them. Getting kicked around in the mvfc (and trust me, they would get kicked around for 5 years at least) would not stroke their egos very well. They'd be playing GaState and UTSA type schedules with lots of naia/dii/diii/low fcs type comp for their first 2-3 years. They might pick a game vs MO State or IN State, but they would not play UNI, IL State of an of the better teams. Quote
bison73 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 12 hours ago, Herd said: What school? Wichita State specifically. Wichita State fans have had their noses up in the air for a lot of years about mvfc football. They would avoid mvfc football at all costs, maintaining their perception that mvfc football is beneath them. Getting kicked around in the mvfc (and trust me, they would get kicked around for 5 years at least) would not stroke their egos very well. They'd be playing GaState and UTSA type schedules with lots of naia/dii/diii/low fcs type comp for their first 2-3 years. They might pick a game vs MO State or IN State, but they would not play UNI, IL State of an of the better teams. WS is looking for a golden hand to invite them because they are------???? Special?????? If some conference doesnt drop their pants for them, even the thought of them restarting football goes in the toilet. IMO of course. Quote
nd1sufan Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 15 hours ago, bison73 said: WS is looking for a golden hand to invite them because they are------???? Special?????? If some conference doesnt drop their pants for them, even the thought of them restarting football goes in the toilet. IMO of course. Come on. Which school in the right mind would turn down an invite from the powerful WAC/BSC FBS? Isn't it the dream of every school to play football against UTRGVU or Lamar or UND? There is no way WSU walks away from that offer. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Come on. Which school in the right mind would turn down an invite from the powerful midcon / summit FCS? Isn't it the dream of every school to play football/basketball against uipuiu or uipufw or sdsu? There is no way the ndac walks away from that offer. 1 Quote
Popular Post Hayduke Posted July 10, 2016 Popular Post Posted July 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Come on. Which school in the right mind would turn down an invite from the powerful WAC/BSC FBS? Isn't it the dream of every school to play football against UTRGVU or Lamar or UND? There is no way WSU walks away from that offer. I think Grand Forks should try to get an NFL team. After all, it's a Jubilee year. 6 Quote
bison73 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Hayduke said: I think Grand Forks should try to get an NFL team. After all, it's a Jubilee year. If I would have one of those visonary presidential minds I would have thought of that also. Quote
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