New Nickname

[SWSiouxMN]

A couple of tweets from the ongoing meeting:

 

The #newnickname task force HAS to come up with a process to pick the new moniker & COULD possibly include actual nickname recommendations.

 

Most of the #newnickname task force seems worried by a Dec. 31 deadline to have a plan to present to UND Pres. Kelley.

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

Most of the #newnickname task force seems worried by a Dec. 31 deadline to have a plan to present to UND Pres. Kelley.

 

 

Oh, come on.  That's 2 1/2 months…for a process.  Maybe we should call ourselves the Procrastinators.

[The Sicatoka]

Sandbaggers. 

[The Sicatoka]

I still kind of like the "Boondockers." 

 

Logo?

A pair of 8" (up the ankle) steel-toed lace-up boots (Marine boondockers) with a hat like Bubba wears (boonie hat) set off-center on top of them. 

(The boots would be a nice subtle message to opposing teams about what they'll get when they face UND --> steel-toe enema.) 

 

For those who don't like to admit that North Dakota is out in the boondocks I say, "I feel no shame, I'm proud of where I came from. I was born and raised in the boondocks."

[Siouxperdouper]

Kelly and Faison got there wish.  Who cares about a new name.  Seminoles, it's ok in Florida???

[tnt]

Kelly and Faison got there wish.  Who cares about a new name.  Seminoles, it's ok in Florida???

 

We could be the Semolinas! 

[Fetch]

bunch a puppets

[Blackheart]

bunch a puppets

Sock puppets?

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

We could be the Semolinas! 

 

 

How about Seminals.  We could have a hairy sack with two bulges for a mascot.  Bring Tom Green and Lance Armstrong in for cancer awareness campaigns.  Our opponents could taunt us with vasectomy chants.  After a loss, coach could go on and on about how the freshmen didn't drop.  Cheer and dance teams could dress up in slick white bodysuits and squirm around.

[Siouxphan27]

How about Seminals. We could have a hairy sack with two bulges for a mascot. Bring Tom Green and Lance Armstrong in for cancer awareness campaigns. Our opponents could taunt us with vasectomy chants. After a loss, coach could go on and on about how the freshmen didn't drop. Cheer and dance teams could dress up in slick white bodysuits and squirm around.

Well now we're getting somewhere.

[niouxsiouxfan]

That doesn't sound like it could offend any particular group. Let's roll with it! Let the "good ol boys" know

[Redneksioux]

If you want to get up to speed on und's new nickname process all you have to do is check out bisonville. Just since yesterday they have multiple pages of posts. Haven't lurked over there in a while but wow.

[Blackheart]

If you want to get up to speed on und's new nickname process all you have to do is check out bisonville. Just since yesterday they have multiple pages of posts. Haven't lurked over there in a while but wow.

Why do they care so much?

[Siouxperdouper]

Where were all the UND legal minds to let this get this far.  There is no way you can have a seminole in Florida and not a sioux in ND.  The NCAA sucks.

[82SiouxGuy]

Where were all the UND legal minds to let this get this far.  There is no way you can have a seminole in Florida and not a sioux in ND.  The NCAA sucks.

The court system seems to disagree with you.

[Fetch]

Where were all the UND legal minds to let this get this far. There is no way you can have a seminole in Florida and not a sioux in ND. The NCAA sucks.

THIS^^^is why many of us will be Fighting Sioux Forever

[Shawn-O]

Here's the rub. The Seminole Tribe signed off on it, the Sioux tribe in Standing Rock did not. End of story. It sucks, but that's the reality.

[darell1976]

Here's the rub. The Seminole Tribe signed off on it, the Sioux tribe in Standing Rock did not. End of story. It sucks, but that's the reality.

Sad but true. Also Spirit Lake sat on the fence when this mess started in 2005. 

[ScottM]

Sad but true. Also Spirit Lake sat on the fence when this mess started in 2005. 

And Florida's congressional delegation went crazy when FSU was originally put on the hit list, while North Dakota's delegation was MIA. 

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

Here's the rub. The Seminole Tribe signed off on it, the Sioux tribe in Standing Rock did not. End of story. It sucks, but that's the reality.

 

If I am not mistaken, the FLORIDA Seminoles signed off; the OKLAHOMA Seminoles were not even asked (and to this day are opposed).

[82SiouxGuy]

If I am not mistaken, the FLORIDA Seminoles signed off; the OKLAHOMA Seminoles were not even asked (and to this day are opposed).

The Oklahoma Seminoles are not opposed as a tribe.  They have made no efforts to show any opposition.  Before the NCAA set up the ban, they believed that the Oklahoma Seminoles would be opposed and it is believed that the NCAA was going to use that opposition to completely ban Native American nicknames.  It turns out that 1 very vocal member of tribal government had misrepresented the position of the Oklahoma tribe.  He was opposed.  The tribe never addressed the issue.  That is when the NCAA set up the local tribe approval exception that Florida State, Utah and a few other schools were able to use.  It was their way out of a fight with Florida State.  There have been some individuals with the Oklahoma Seminole tribe that have expressed some opposition, but it has never been brought to tribal government.

[Esoxpirate]

Not sure if anybody here at the game in the springs this weekend, but the local sports radio and some CC fans refer to us as the Maple Hens... I don't really dig that nickname.

I'm fine with being North Dakota. Everybody knows who we are with or without a nickname.

[The Sicatoka]

I've said it before and no better time to repeat it:

Pick a new moniker or someone, who probably doesn't have your best interests at heart, will tag one on us.

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

The Oklahoma Seminoles are not opposed as a tribe.  They have made no efforts to show any opposition.  Before the NCAA set up the ban, they believed that the Oklahoma Seminoles would be opposed and it is believed that the NCAA was going to use that opposition to completely ban Native American nicknames.  It turns out that 1 very vocal member of tribal government had misrepresented the position of the Oklahoma tribe.  He was opposed.  The tribe never addressed the issue.  That is when the NCAA set up the local tribe approval exception that Florida State, Utah and a few other schools were able to use.  It was their way out of a fight with Florida State.  There have been some individuals with the Oklahoma Seminole tribe that have expressed some opposition, but it has never been brought to tribal government.

 

Fair enough.  But in light of recent developments with the Redskins issue, the collective noise coming from the Sooner State (as reported by OK-based media) was very anti-nickname and nobody seemed too concerned with splitting hairs.  Have to wonder if the tide there has turned in the past several years.

[Oxbow6]

Was hunting near Amidon ND this weekend with my father and some of his buddies. One of the buddies is an avid ND historian and he said Sitting Bull's great great grandson was a keynote speaker at a symposium this summer near Killdeer on ND NA battles. He talked to the grandson at length about the UND Sioux name and SB GG grandson said it was an injustice what happened at Standing Rock and was embarrassed at how it was handled. He said vote would have been 75% in favor of name. Guess he pulled up in a pickup truck with a big Fighting Sioux stick on window of his cab.