Sioux27 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 .500 or better and Mussman keeps his job? What would have to happen to get him fired? I would say, that if at some point we are 5-4 in the regular season with two games to go, I would go to the ledge and possibly jump but also insist our season is a waste. Read below.......... Then I would support "my" team as they back into the playoffs. All of a sudden "my" coach would become the second coming of J.C. himself. If they then proceed to win two playoff games all is forgotten. "My" team and my fanbase would return to the old days of "we rule college football mentality" and then trash all other teams. Oh......almost forgot.......I would also manage to turn most discussions into trashing a former rival and still never get over the fact the our rivals hockey team is a little bit better than average. From Bisonville WYOBISONMAN Re: Missouri State post game analysis..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A season of HORSESHIT offense. Vigen has to go......I would not cry if Bohls ass was sent packing either. No playoffs for this team.....it is probably for the best. We would just get the !@#$ pounded out of us anyway. __________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Shouldn't get too excited by highlight tapes, I guess, but I really liked what I saw of Carrasco on film. He seemed to have fair speed, run very good routes and showed excellent hands. However, I think the roster last year listed him at about a buck fifty, so he may need a little work at the dinner table and the weight room. I'll be the first to admit, I was also excited about Carrasco based on what his highlight film showed. However, we need to curb our enthusiasm on this kid as I heard so far he looks nothing like the kid on his highlight film and has struggled pretty bad to this point. I'm not sure if we can expect much from this kid at all moving forward. Just goes to show that highlight films should not be the only basis of evaluation and also shows why coaches want to watch game film. Now, Tyrhe Ivery on the other hand......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooToo Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I'll be the first to admit, I was also excited about Carrasco based on what his highlight film showed. However, we need to curb our enthusiasm on this kid as I heard so far he looks nothing like the kid on his highlight film and has struggled pretty bad to this point. I'm not sure if we can expect much from this kid at all moving forward. Just goes to show that highlight films should not be the only basis of evaluation and also shows why coaches want to watch game film. Now, Tyrhe Ivery on the other hand......... Disappointed to hear that assessment of Carrasco so far but great to get some progress updates just the same. Nice to hear that Ivery (I presume) is looking promising. I've heard coaches more than onece say that the opening week of fall camp is like Christmas; a first chance to see if you got what you were wishing for. More than a little truth there I suppose. While we're talking recruits, has anyone heard anything about preferred walk-ons for next year? I presume UND had some interest in at least a couple players who opted to walk on at the AC. I'm surprised there's been nothing announced on UND's invitees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It's interesting you think the team will win at Idaho, but not at SUU or Davis. How do you compare Idaho to those teams? First game of the year, and Idaho's star QB is gone. This will be a wake up call for UND who will look for some payback, and a little respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star2city Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I would say, that if at some point we are 5-4 in the regular season with two games to go, I would go to the ledge and possibly jump but also insist our season is a waste. Read below.......... Then I would support "my" team as they back into the playoffs. All of a sudden "my" coach would become the second coming of J.C. himself. If they then proceed to win two playoff games all is forgotten. "My" team and my fanbase would return to the old days of "we rule college football mentality" and then trash all other teams. Oh......almost forgot.......I would also manage to turn most discussions into trashing a former rival and still never get over the fact the our rivals hockey team is a little bit better than average. From Bisonville WYOBISONMAN Re: Missouri State post game analysis..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A season of HORSESHIT offense. Vigen has to go......I would not cry if Bohls ass was sent packing either. No playoffs for this team.....it is probably for the best. We would just get the !@#$ pounded out of us anyway. __________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS4127 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Star2: You know as well as I do that the vast, vast majority over on BV still question Vigen, still question Bohl for not making an off-season OC position, and that the jury is still out on the Bison's offense. We won in the PO's and latter part of the season because our D played very well, and we were just flat out more physical on offense then RM or MSU could handle with their defenses, and EWU had a difficult time with that as well, Our offensive play calling changed very little, and, when it did, it was because of DC suggested a play to our OC that he and our D were having a difficult time defending. Neither Bohl nore Vigen were considered the second coming of J.C., especially after the EWU game when some terrible offensive calls were made late in the game--which we lost as a result. But, it is true that most of us thought we would not make the playoffs after that horrible loss to Mizzu State where we scored Zero points against the worst D in the MVFC. If the Sioux can get their offense on track and be physical, they will do just fine in the Big Sky IMO, and the Big Sky may have to adjust their traditional manner of playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I would say, that if at some point we are 5-4 in the regular season with two games to go, I would go to the ledge and possibly jump but also insist our season is a waste. Read below.......... Then I would support "my" team as they back into the playoffs. All of a sudden "my" coach would become the second coming of J.C. himself. If they then proceed to win two playoff games all is forgotten. "My" team and my fanbase would return to the old days of "we rule college football mentality" and then trash all other teams. Oh......almost forgot.......I would also manage to turn most discussions into trashing a former rival and still never get over the fact the our rivals hockey team is a little bit better than average. From Bisonville WYOBISONMAN Re: Missouri State post game analysis..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A season of HORSESHIT offense. Vigen has to go......I would not cry if Bohls ass was sent packing either. No playoffs for this team.....it is probably for the best. We would just get the !@#$ pounded out of us anyway. __________________ Oh, I am no Vigen fan, and for me the jury is still out on Bohl. I don't think last season convinced me that we don't have some coaching issues at NDSU. But.......back to my orignal question about Mussman........what would it take to get him canned? Or....does he get through this year no matter what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Oh, I am no Vigen fan, and for me the jury is still out on Bohl. I don't think last season convinced me that we don't have some coaching issues at NDSU. But.......back to my orignal question about Mussman........what would it take to get him canned? Or....does he get through this year no matter what happens? Unless Brian Faison is posting on here, who can answer that question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I would think that 1) a losing record with a loss to one (or more) of the lower division teams - unless we finished the season VERY strong or 2) a losing record with the team showing little improvement throughout the season and/or not playing with much energy/motivation due to a real or perceived lack of leadership from the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Unless Brian Faison is posting on here, who can answer that question? We are all fans......speculation is what we do......as well as arm chair QB work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 We are all fans......speculation is what we do......as well as arm chair QB work as well. True, enough. To be fair, I think the fans leash on the subject is quite a bit shorter than the AD's. And that's who counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 True, enough. To be fair, I think the fans leash on the subject is quite a bit shorter than the AD's. And that's who counts. .......agreed......and probably a good thing! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Oh, I am no Vigen fan, and for me the jury is still out on Bohl. I don't think last season convinced me that we don't have some coaching issues at NDSU. But.......back to my orignal question about Mussman........what would it take to get him canned? Or....does he get through this year no matter what happens? After we lose to a non D1 team Mussman should be sending out his resume. There is no excuses for losing to a non D1 team even when we are still in transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndfootball Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Not sure where to ask the question, or maybe I missed it. Other than adding Danny Freund as a coach have the other vacancies been filled yet. I think we need a running back coach as well as O-line. If these have already been filled, then sorry, I missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillySioux Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Not sure where to ask the question, or maybe I missed it. Other than adding Danny Freund as a coach have the other vacancies been filled yet. I think we need a running back coach as well as O-line. If these have already been filled, then sorry, I missed it. Per Mussman at today's Sioux Boosters in Fargo, Danny Freund will coach RBs and Mussman will coach O-line himself. He said he will hire a generic offensive/administrative asst coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndfootball Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Per Mussman at today's Sioux Boosters in Fargo, Danny Freund will coach RBs and Mussman will coach O-line himself. He said he will hire a generic offensive/administrative asst coach. It seems odd at this level that your head coach would also serve as your o-line coach. I hope Mussman is getting all the help he needs and they are not trying to get by cheap for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 So.....who is going to emerge as the heir apparent for QB after the spring game? I read through the thread quick, but did Mussman ever find a JC transfer for the QB position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 So.....who is going to emerge as the heir apparent for QB after the spring game? I read through the thread quick, but did Mussman ever find a JC transfer for the QB position? Joey Bradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Joey Bradley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersioux Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 It seems odd at this level that your head coach would also serve as your o-line coach. I hope Mussman is getting all the help he needs and they are not trying to get by cheap for a year. When the schedule came out that was the first indication that they were trying to get by cheap for a year...this just solidify's it. IMO Muss (or any head coach) shouldn't be coaching the OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 When the schedule came out that was the first indication that they were trying to get by cheap for a year...this just solidify's it. IMO Muss (or any head coach) shouldn't be coaching the OL They would not have found a better OL coach than Mussman. He is top notch and I have a feeling he is missing the Xs and Os of the game and this is his way of getting back in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Wow.....Bradley looks impressive. He will be interesting to watch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Wow.....Bradley looks impressive. He will be interesting to watch..... The main knock on him was the number of INT's he threw in his one JC year. We'll have to see if that affects him at UND or not, if he wins the QB battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillySioux Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 They would not have found a better OL coach than Mussman. He is top notch and I have a feeling he is missing the Xs and Os of the game and this is his way of getting back in it. He said just that at Sioux Boosters. His exact words were to "for my own sanity, I'm going to coach a position full time." He went on to say that the remaining coaching position will be filled. It sounds like a "quality control" type job description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillySioux Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Wow.....Bradley looks impressive. He will be interesting to watch..... Yeah, but Dante Perez was impressive on tape as well. It wil be interesting to see how spring ball goes for Mr. Bradley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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