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[darell1976]

homer, on 22 June 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

But don't forget that it can't be difficult to get the AQ.  If its too difficult and the competition is to much, that is seen as a negative by a few of their fans as well.

Can't wait to see Bison fans cry when Omaha and South Dakota go to the dance while the Bison sit and watch.

[supersioux]

Count me as one that would love the Summit/MVFC spot.  The Big Sky is fine but after the two Montana schools there isn't much to latch on to.

[The Sicatoka]

supersioux, on 22 June 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Count me as one that would love the Summit/MVFC spot.  The Big Sky is fine but after the two Montana schools there isn't much to latch on to.

No, the key is to attach to the Montana schools and go as a package to where they may go next.

[CMSioux]

supersioux, on 22 June 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Count me as one that would love the Summit/MVFC spot.  The Big Sky is fine but after the two Montana schools there isn't much to latch on to.

And how many teams in the Summit league would you want to latch on to - keeping in mind you can't list any former NCC schools because those are the schools that others wanted to leave behind.

[fightingsioux4life]

supersioux, on 22 June 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Count me as one that would love the Summit/MVFC spot.  The Big Sky is fine but after the two Montana schools there isn't much to latch on to.

Are you one of those "I just want to play the Bison again" fans?  Because that is NOT how decisions like this should be made.  Marching lock-step with the Stream Yellow crowd is not a good idea.

[bisoninnwmn]

The Sicatoka, on 22 June 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

No, the key is to attach to the Montana schools and go as a package to where they may go next.

So this is the mantra for the UND fan?  

"attach to the Montana schools"......

UND would be better off in the Summit, period.  More regional schools with a lot less travel.  The BSC worked out, it is what it is.  But your administration would have joined the Summit/MV in a heartbeat if it would have worked out.


As a TMer and Bison fan, there is no way the Missouri Valley is not the ultimate goal for NDSU athletics.  Once the renovation is done to the BSA, IMO, that will be an issue pushed hard at NDSU.....membership into the Missouri Valley.

[bisoninnwmn]

darell1976, on 22 June 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Can't wait to see Bison fans cry when Omaha and South Dakota go to the dance while the Bison sit and watch.

Really?

So you think those 2 schools are going to come in and "tear" up the Summit with multiple titles?

USD in the MV will be a perrenial doormat....period.  The game in Sioux Falls will be awesome when more Bison fans show up compared to Yote fans.  USD, with all of their senior starters last year, would have finished 8th or 9th in the Valley.  They are a good addition to the Valley.....shorter trip for travel, but they will never be a "power" player in the conference.

[FSSD]

darell1976, on 22 June 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Can't wait to see Bison fans cry when Omaha and South Dakota go to the dance while the Bison sit and watch.

bisoninnwmn, on 24 June 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

Really?

So you think those 2 schools are going to come in and "tear" up the Summit with multiple titles?

USD in the MV will be a perrenial doormat....period.  The game in Sioux Falls will be awesome when more Bison fans show up compared to Yote fans.  USD, with all of their senior starters last year, would have finished 8th or 9th in the Valley.  They are a good addition to the Valley.....shorter trip for travel, but they will never be a "power" player in the conference.

He was talking about basketball and the Summit League not sure why you jumped over to football ahhh ButFootball got it.

[Smoggy]

bisoninnwmn, on 24 June 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

So this is the mantra for the UND fan?  

"attach to the Montana schools"......

UND would be better off in the Summit, period.  More regional schools with a lot less travel.  The BSC worked out, it is what it is.  But your administration would have joined the Summit/MV in a heartbeat if it would have worked out.

But there was no offer to the MVFC.

Football will have the most travel issues.  But now all the other sports can have a lot of close non-con games that we'd bus to.  Maybe not all schools will schedule us and we may choose to not schedule them, but filling out schedules for us is going to be a heck of a lot easier than if we were with the Summit schools.

But I will agree that we will have more traveling to do compared to in the summit.

[The Sicatoka]

bisoninnwmn, on 24 June 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

So this is the mantra for the UND fan?  

"attach to the Montana schools"......

If that gets UND to where they (Montanas) are going sooner or later (FBS conference), why not?

bisoninnwmn, on 24 June 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

As a TMer and Bison fan, there is no way the Missouri Valley is not the ultimate goal for NDSU athletics. Once the renovation is done to the BSA, IMO, that will be an issue pushed hard at NDSU.....membership into the Missouri Valley.

The Missouri Valley is a "destination" non-FBS conference. NDSU hopes to get there.

The Big Sky is a "destination" non-FBS conference. UND is there.

[The Sicatoka]

bisoninnwmn, on 24 June 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

So you think those 2 schools are going to come in and "tear" up the Summit with multiple titles?

Oh, I'm quite sure UNO and USD are planning on being Summit doormats for at least the next 50 years.
Surely they have no interest in post-season or autobids to the NCAA tournament.
Roll over for NDSU is definitely the plan in Omaha and Vermillion.

[bincitysioux]

The Sicatoka, on 24 June 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Oh, I'm quite sure UNO and USD are planning on being Summit doormats for at least the next 50 years.
Surely they have no interest in post-season or autobids to the NCAA tournament.
Roll over for NDSU is definitely the plan in Omaha and Vermillion.

Ya..................

I believe if we are talking basketball, USD has been "rolling over" NDSU for about 100 years now, along with SDSU.  NDSU was basically a 5th place basketball program in the NCC.  I expect them to be about the same in the "Super Summit" for the foreseeable future...........................

[darell1976]

FSSD, on 24 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

He was talking about basketball and the Summit League not sure why you jumped over to football ahhh ButFootball got it.

Exactly.

[krangodance]

108498, on 09 June 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

I would really like to see und get out the big sky and get a second shot with ndsu/south dakota confrence with the loss of the sioux.

I can't relate to this comment at all. I consider the Big Sky one of the most competive and successful conferences over the past decade at the FCS level. My bias is definitely based in the fact that I'm a huge football fan and I don't really care much about basketball or other sports that are hosted by the Big Sky conference. From a football standpoint, though, I couldn't pick a better conference for my team (except FBS level conferences but those are out of the question for UND at this time).

[krangodance]

Herd, on 11 June 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

At least get your facts straight.   UNO dropped football to be able to afford the move to DI, not because the MVFC would not accept them.  If UNO would have taken their football team with them to DI, I am sure the Valley would have accepted them into the league by at least year two, as they have a solid football history, a good location,  and maybe some winnable games during the transition in a tough league.  Likewise if UND would have wanted to join Valley football, they would have been accepted fairly quickly IMO with a better quality program than UNO. All it took was a little effort and being able to play nice, see USD.

Due to a rather largish ego by UND admin and a greater desire to burn than build bridges, we will never know how quickly the Valley would have taken you in.   The Summit/Valley would have been crazy not to accept you into the league if you would have pursued it, which you did not.  I Can't agrue with the Big Sky decision made by UND, but doing it while taking shots at the Summit/MVFC was not necessary and in your best long range interest.  It seems likely that you will either move east or the bison will move west at some point, but maybe not.

I don't know about the rest of you but anytime I see a post start this way I just skip it (well other than this time since I did reply). Just so negative and confrontational. Unnecessary really.

[darell1976]

krangodance, on 25 June 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

I don't know about the rest of you but anytime I see a post start this way I just skip it (well other than this time since I did reply). Just so negative and confrontational. Unnecessary really.

What do you expect from a Bison fan on a UND board.

[Bison Dan]

darell1976, on 25 June 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

What do you expect from a Bison fan on a UND board.

Right - you need to be a kool-aid drinker to be here.

[darell1976]

Bison Dan, on 25 June 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

Right - you need to be a kool-aid drinker to be here.

Because on Bville the kool-aid well is dry.

[The Sicatoka]

darell1976, on 25 June 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Because on Bville the kool-aid well is dry.

No, because the kool-aid on Bisonville is yellow ... and isn't kool-aid.

[darell1976]

The Sicatoka, on 25 June 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

No, because the kool-aid on Bisonville is yellow ... and isn't kool-aid.

Just like they say...don't eat the yellow snow.