UND-FB-FAN Posted December 13 Posted December 13 38 minutes ago, UND92,96 said: Looks like UND has its first portal addition of the year—Marquis Edmond II, a safety from Virginia St. Very good addition. Just the start … 1 Quote
Big Green Posted December 13 Posted December 13 2 hours ago, siouxweet said: If a kid declares for the portal their scholarship if they are on one should automatically end at the end of the current semester whether they decide to return or not. I agree with this, but how many athletes are enrolled in the spring semester after hitting the portal? Seems most are looking to get to the new school and get enrolled for spring ball. Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted December 13 Posted December 13 6 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Posted at halftime of today's game. Significance? Quote
UNDBIZ Posted December 13 Posted December 13 Just now, MoSiouxFan said: Significance? It's the team we just played. A Tarleton player announced he was transferring at halftime of their playoff game today. I'm sure he won't be coming here, just thought it was a funny/sad reflection of the portal and of this player. 2 Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted December 13 Posted December 13 2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: It's the team we just played. A Tarleton player announced he was transferring at halftime of their playoff game today. I'm sure he won't be coming here, just thought it was a funny/sad reflection of the portal and of this player. Thanks. Unbelievable. Quote
homer Posted December 13 Posted December 13 3 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: It's the team we just played. A Tarleton player announced he was transferring at halftime of their playoff game today. I'm sure he won't be coming here, just thought it was a funny/sad reflection of the portal and of this player. Unreal. Not sure I would want that to be the first impression I made on a new school. Hopefully the kid had something lined up already. Quote
Hawkster Posted December 13 Posted December 13 52 minutes ago, homer said: Unreal. Not sure I would want that to be the first impression I made on a new school. Hopefully the kid had something lined up already. Even if he did have something lined up I sure wouldn't be impressed. How dumb can you be? He'll probably dump on the next team as well. I know the portal is a fact now and we have to deal with it but I absolutely don't get excited about transfers, in or out. My motto is, once a transfer always a transfer. They'll dump you in a heartbeat when the next shiny thing come along. 2 Quote
Longtime fan Posted December 14 Posted December 14 1 hour ago, Hawkster said: Even if he did have something lined up I sure wouldn't be impressed. How dumb can you be? He'll probably dump on the next team as well. I know the portal is a fact now and we have to deal with it but I absolutely don't get excited about transfers, in or out. My motto is, once a transfer always a transfer. They'll dump you in a heartbeat when the next shiny thing come along. Zero team play with these new ways. There is definitely an “I” in team with these type of players. Sickening 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 14 Posted December 14 4 hours ago, MoSiouxFan said: Significance? Wasn’t he out injured? Still a brutal look though. Quote
KBH2010 Posted December 14 Posted December 14 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: Wasn’t he out injured? Still a brutal look though. Out for the year, but definitely something that could have waited until tomorrow. 1 1 Quote
Und Princess Posted December 14 Posted December 14 45 minutes ago, KBH2010 said: Out for the year, but definitely something that could have waited until tomorrow. I agree with you 100% @KBH2010 He could've waited to make the announcement until tomorrow. Quote
petey23 Posted December 14 Posted December 14 25 minutes ago, KBH2010 said: Out for the year, but definitely something that could have waited until tomorrow. Freshman All American and up for the Jerry Rice award this year. Quote
southpaw Posted December 14 Posted December 14 14 hours ago, siouxweet said: Pretty close, both are quiting paid positions as these aren't amateurs anymore. They're not employees, they're freelancers. If they complete a project within the confines of the contract are they not deserving of all remuneration included in that contract? Quote
southpaw Posted December 14 Posted December 14 16 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: Do athletes have contracts with schools? Of course. An athletic scholarship is literally a contract that includes what will be provided by the university in exchange for what the player must do in order to recieve that aid. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 14 Posted December 14 1 hour ago, 90siouxfan said: Do athletes have contracts with schools? 1 hour ago, southpaw said: Of course. An athletic scholarship is literally a contract that includes what will be provided by the university in exchange for what the player must do in order to recieve that aid. Yes, there are NIL contracts that are ADDITIONAL to the scholarship contracts that @southpaw is referencing. UND uses these NIL contacts as well, as the current staff brought UND football up to speed (former staff with Bubba had no clue) … Complex new world we live in now. The wild, wild West … Its even further changed since the House Settlement allowing revenue sharing … Quote
GDPritch Posted December 14 Posted December 14 23 hours ago, siouxweet said: Why is it insecure?? There is an argument that the portal has ruined college sports. There is an argument? You will get no argument from me. The portal (unfettered free agency) has ruined college sports (especially at the mid-major level) speaking from a fan/viewing perspective. 4 Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted December 14 Posted December 14 22 minutes ago, GDPritch said: There is an argument? You will get no argument from me. The portal (unfettered free agency) has ruined college sports (especially at the mid-major level) speaking from a fan/viewing perspective. I agree. None of it makes any sense. Should i give the Wilfs donations to help pay Vikings player salaries? Could someone tell me what the difference is? Quote
iramurphy Posted December 14 Posted December 14 4 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: I agree. None of it makes any sense. Should i give the Wilfs donations to help pay Vikings player salaries? Could someone tell me what the difference is? The number of zeros in your donation? 1 Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted December 14 Posted December 14 44 minutes ago, iramurphy said: The number of zeros in your donation? Zero for paying individual athletes. Facilities, equipment, scholarships, academics, etc. are a completely different conversation. And I will continue to donate to those causes, but I don't believe in paying individual athletes in an unregulated free for all that will be end up being a net negative for college sports in general. So I won't. Also, i would sincerely like an answer to my original question. Thanks. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 14 Posted December 14 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: I agree. None of it makes any sense. Should i give the Wilfs donations to help pay Vikings player salaries? Could someone tell me what the difference is? 6 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Zero for paying individual athletes. Facilities, equipment, scholarships, academics, etc. are a completely different conversation. And I will continue to donate to those causes, but I don't believe in paying individual athletes in an unregulated free for all that will be end up being a net negative for college sports in general. So I won't. Also, i would sincerely like an answer to my original question. Thanks. If you want to help the cause and contribute to the success of the program/organization, then it’s reasonable to feel compelled to be generous and contribute, rather than being callous towards it. With that said, the lack of regulation is where I (and many others) have an issue. It distorts competitive equality. In the NFL, there is a salary cap, meaning if you did theoretically donate to the Vikings payroll to help out the Wilfs, they could still only use so much to pay the players. Right now, in college football, there is no salary cap. That lack of regulation is the priority problem right now, not the issue of student-athletes being rightfully payed some for their services/entertainment value. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted December 14 Posted December 14 14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: If you want to help the cause and contribute to the success of the program/organization, then it’s reasonable to feel compelled to be generous and contribute, rather than being callous towards it. With that said, the lack of regulation is where I (and many others) have an issue. It distorts competitive equality. In the NFL, there is a salary cap, meaning if you did theoretically donate to the Vikings payroll to help out the Wilfs, they could still only use so much to pay the players. Right now, in college football, there is no salary cap. That lack of regulation is the priority problem right now, not the issue of student-athletes being rightfully payed some for their services/entertainment value. I would argue Ira asking for my donation dollar figure, just because i expressed an opinion, was the "callous" comment here. If he's going to inquire into my personal donations, I think all should be able to handle my truthful response. Your second paragraph mirrors what i originally said; that unregulated dollars being thrown around to individuals is a net negative for college sports in general. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 14 Posted December 14 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: I would argue Ira asking for my donation dollar figure, just because i expressed an opinion, was the "callous" comment here. If he's going to inquire into my personal donations, I think all should be able to handle my truthful response. Your second paragraph mirrors what i originally said; that unregulated dollars being thrown around to individuals is a net negative for college sports in general. Not a personally directed comment. Just a generality: we may not like the current state of collegiate athletics, but you still have an opportunity to be generous and make a difference. Not doing so, regardless of your stance, puts UND at a competitive disadvantage. 3 Quote
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