Prospective Recruits

[stoneySIOUX]

21 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

My answer is no

 

im still waiting for that list you said your going to give me of us beating out other blue bloods

LOL already did that on the other thread. Glad we agree.

[gfhockey]

18 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

LOL already did that on the other thread. Glad we agree.

I never saw it? Or wasn’t there any names we beat them out on?

[skateshattrick]

37 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

My answer is no

 

im still waiting for that list you said your going to give me of us beating out other blue bloods

Are you looking for 1st round draft picks, or what is your definition of "blue chippas"? If you go to collegehockeyinc.com, there is a list of NHL First Round Draft Picks Who Played College Hockey. Since 2010, here is the breakdown: 1. Michigan 14; 2. BU 12; 3. BC and UND 9 (I included Pinto since he was the 1st pick of the 2nd round and meets any definition of "blue chipper); 4. Wisconsin 6; 5. Minnesota 5; 6. Denver, SCSU, Providence and Miami 2 each; 7. UMD, UMass, UConn, Northeastern, CC and Harvard 1 each. 

If you go back to 2003, UND does even better because they had 1 in 2003, 2 in 2004, 3 in 2005, and 1 in 2006.  It seems that we outperform our NCHC rivals SCSU, Miami, Denver and UMD (your favorite school)

[tnt]

11 minutes ago, skateshattrick said:

Are you looking for 1st round draft picks, or what is your definition of "blue chippas"? If you go to collegehockeyinc.com, there is a list of NHL First Round Draft Picks Who Played College Hockey. Since 2010, here is the breakdown: 1. Michigan 14; 2. BU 12; 3. BC and UND 9 (I included Pinto since he was the 1st pick of the 2nd round and meets any definition of "blue chipper); 4. Wisconsin 6; 5. Minnesota 5; 6. Denver, SCSU, Providence and Miami 2 each; 7. UMD, UMass, UConn, Northeastern, CC and Harvard 1 each. 

If you go back to 2003, UND does even better because they had 1 in 2003, 2 in 2004, 3 in 2005, and 1 in 2006.  It seems that we outperform our NCHC rivals SCSU, Miami, Denver and UMD (your favorite school)

So UND's number exceeds that of the rest of the league combined!  So how has that worked for all the teams in front of UND in that statistic?

[stoneySIOUX]

21 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I never saw it? Or wasn’t there any names we beat them out on?

Why are you asking me if you never saw it? It's in the commits thread. Pretty recently. Dig it up, buddy.

[stoneySIOUX]

17 minutes ago, tnt said:

So UND's number exceeds that of the rest of the league combined!  So how has that worked for all the teams in front of UND in that statistic?

It almost seems like you need a balance of studs and grindas to win at a high level. Such a novel concept. Sounds like teams like Mankato, St. Cloud, Western during this season. Crazy thought?!?! Lol

[tnt]

18 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

It almost seems like you need a balance of studs and grindas to win at a high level. Such a novel concept. Sounds like teams like Mankato, St. Cloud, Western during this season. Crazy thought?!?! Lol

Also, another thing in common with those teams is that they have some older players that have played in their system for a while.  We've seen how likely it is that the average freshman is going to struggle to adapt to the college level, so having guys that have gotten past that stage is huge, and why you see a lot of these veteran teams do well during tournament time, even against more talented teams.  That is why I don't necessarily think you automatically throw away guys that haven't produced after the first year or two, because at the very least they know what you expect from them and at least most likely won't struggle at both ends of the ice.   Obviously some guys need a change of scenery, but a lot of times that third year is when guys start to really get it, like Collin Adams. 

[stoneySIOUX]

6 minutes ago, tnt said:

Also, another thing in common with those teams is that they have some older players that have played in their system for a while.  We've seen how likely it is that the average freshman is going to struggle to adapt to the college level, so having guys that have gotten past that stage is huge, and why you see a lot of these veteran teams do well during tournament time, even against more talented teams.  That is why I don't necessarily think you automatically throw away guys that haven't produced after the first year or two, because at the very least they know what you expect from them and at least most likely won't struggle at both ends of the ice.   Obviously some guys need a change of scenery, but a lot of times that third year is when guys start to really get it, like Collin Adams. 

Also why it's silly that people are being so hard on a kid like Kunz. Players develop.

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, skateshattrick said:

Are you looking for 1st round draft picks, or what is your definition of "blue chippas"? If you go to collegehockeyinc.com, there is a list of NHL First Round Draft Picks Who Played College Hockey. Since 2010, here is the breakdown: 1. Michigan 14; 2. BU 12; 3. BC and UND 9 (I included Pinto since he was the 1st pick of the 2nd round and meets any definition of "blue chipper); 4. Wisconsin 6; 5. Minnesota 5; 6. Denver, SCSU, Providence and Miami 2 each; 7. UMD, UMass, UConn, Northeastern, CC and Harvard 1 each. 

If you go back to 2003, UND does even better because they had 1 in 2003, 2 in 2004, 3 in 2005, and 1 in 2006.  It seems that we outperform our NCHC rivals SCSU, Miami, Denver and UMD (your favorite school)

Nonhe was going to tell me who we won head 2 head recruiting battles with vs blood bloods

[gfhockey]

38 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

It almost seems like you need a balance of studs and grindas to win at a high level. Such a novel concept. Sounds like teams like Mankato, St. Cloud, Western during this season. Crazy thought?!?! Lol

What’s mankatos current ranking? Just curious

 

they get the grindaz to play a system that fits them

[Walsh Hall]

10 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Nonhe was going to tell me who we won head 2 head recruiting battles with vs blood bloods

No other teams were interested in Sanderson?  

[Walsh Hall]

It appears, on average, there are 5/6 "blue chippers" per year.  Out of those, a good chunk have to be basically unrecruitable based on ties to particular programs.  There's probably around 3 "blue chippers" per year that are actually in play.

Every team is in on those guys.  Landing one of them every few years is pretty impressive.  Our facility and history are second to none, but living in GF has to be a big turn-off to some of those kids.  

Over that last decade how many recruiting battles has Minnesota won?  Their blue-chippers all seem to be guys that aren't going to seriously consider other schools.

[scpa0305]

39 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Also why it's silly that people are being so hard on a kid like Kunz. Players develop.

Agreed…you can never complain about a freshman…especially one playing on a 3rd/4th line and next to no pp time.

Also to add some clarification. Blue chips are 1st rounders NUFD 

[tnt]

39 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

What’s mankatos current ranking? Just curious

 

they get the grindaz to play a system that fits them

Squirrel!!

[stoneySIOUX]

42 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

What’s mankatos current ranking? Just curious

 

they get the grindaz to play a system that fits them

So, is it the system? Too many grindas? Not enough grindas? Not enough blue chippas?

Goodness, bro. You are all over the place. Make sure you your personalities are all on the same page when each one of you log in. 

[The Sicatoka]

All these grindaz and chippa ... somebody pass the sauce already. 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

And queso please 

[petey23]

2 hours ago, Walsh Hall said:

No other teams were interested in Sanderson?  

Kleven had offers from every top program in the country.

[gfhockey]

2 minutes ago, petey23 said:

Kleven had offers from every top program in the country.

So there’s two. 
 

 

[stoneySIOUX]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

So there’s two. 
 

 

Still didn't answer my question. 

So, is it the system? Too many grindas? Not enough grindas? Not enough blue chippas?

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Still didn't answer my question. 

So, is it the system? Too many grindas? Not enough grindas? Not enough blue chippas?

Combination of all theee. Berry needs to change his system if he keeps getting grindaz

 

 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

Does Mitchell Miller get a chance to play college hockey? He is having a fantastic season so far. 

[cberkas]

4 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Does Mitchell Miller get a chance to play college hockey? He is having a fantastic season so far. 

Don't see anyone touching that "hot potato"

[ChadR]

32 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Does Mitchell Miller get a chance to play college hockey? He is having a fantastic season so far. 

Someone will take a chance. I'd guess he goes out east.

[brianvf]

1 minute ago, ChadR said:

Someone will take a chance. I'd guess he goes out east.

ASU will take him...just a hunch.