Dane Jackson named head coach

[sioux24/7]

26 minutes ago, crb1 said:

As much as we want to pin this all on Chaves, and believe me he is an easy target, he most certainly leaned on Erik Martinson for this as well. I like Marty, I have known him for a long time, but he was just as instrumental in the decision making as Chaves. So good or bad he deserve credit or criticism too. 

#InMartinsonWeTrust

[nodakgirl93]

57 minutes ago, datameisterq said:

While Jackson's extensive tenure with UND brings continuity, several factors could pose challenges to his success:

1. Internal Promotion Amidst Program Changes: Transitioning from assistant to head coach within the same program can be complex, especially following the departure of a long-standing head coach. Jackson's close association with the previous coaching regime might make it difficult to implement significant changes or address existing issues that contributed to prior shortcomings.

2. Limited Head Coaching Experience: Jackson's head coaching experience is relatively limited, with his most notable stint being an interim role with the Adirondack Frostbite in the United Hockey League. The jump to leading a high-profile NCAA Division I program like UND presents a substantial increase in responsibility and pressure.

Jax title under berry was associate head coach. 

[tnt]

1 hour ago, neoflex said:

Wow. Chavez really went hard on the interview trail. So vanilla of a choice. Not knocking Dane, but if build a house and it's declared condemned, why would you use the #2 in charge of the same company to rebuild you another house, and expect something different.

With this line of thinking, we could very well have 5 or 6 fewer National Titles, because no Gasparini, probably no Blais, and so on.  Maybe Harkness could have worked out, but what did Harkness do after they gave Gino the job?

[Siouxdaddy]

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

[The Sicatoka]

1 hour ago, datameisterq said:

While Jackson's extensive tenure with UND brings continuity, several factors could pose challenges to his success:

1. Internal Promotion Amidst Program Changes: Transitioning from assistant to head coach within the same program can be complex, especially following the departure of a long-standing head coach. Jackson's close association with the previous coaching regime might make it difficult to implement significant changes or address existing issues that contributed to prior shortcomings.

2. Limited Head Coaching Experience: Jackson's head coaching experience is relatively limited, with his most notable stint being an interim role with the Adirondack Frostbite in the United Hockey League. The jump to leading a high-profile NCAA Division I program like UND presents a substantial increase in responsibility and pressure.

3. Fan and Community Expectations: UND hockey has a passionate fanbase with high expectations. Some community members have expressed skepticism about promoting from within rather than seeking external candidates who might bring fresh perspectives. This sentiment is reflected in fan discussions, where concerns about the hiring process and the decision to promote Jackson have been voiced.

4. Immediate Performance Pressures: The timing of Jackson's appointment, coming just before the opening of the transfer portal, adds immediate pressure to retain current players and attract new talent. His ability to navigate this critical period effectively will be crucial in maintaining the team's competitiveness.

Thank you Grok. 

[tnt]

1 hour ago, AJS said:

Morning after reaction. I’m excited. Some current / former players really are sticking their necks out that Dane is the right guy. I love that. Everything will be heightened next year. A lot of pressure. Imo, we’ll be able to tell next year if this was the right hire. 

Yeah, no reason not to take a wait and see approach.  From what it sounds, a fresh coach would most likely have been starting with a rebuilding year, and there is no guarantee they would have succeeded in that either.  It’s possible they could improve substantially next year under Jackson, and if they don’t, we might be back at the same place 3 years down the line, which is probably the same timeline for a complete rebuild anyway.  Let’s see how it works out before the pitchforks come out.

[nodakgirl93]

8 minutes ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Maybe they were defending their buddy Jax. 

[Hawkster]

10 minutes ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Hopefully Jax knows what to do.           

 

[The Sicatoka]

If this rumor is true, who had Jackson’s “Hak moment” this early in his tenure? 

[gfhockey]

15 minutes ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Source?

[gfhockey]

Remeba the time the hockey playas and football playas fought cuz one of the football playas was banging jpl girl

 

sbd the football playas beat up the hockey playas

 

boys will be boys

[dden3]

11 hours ago, UND1983 said:

How would Jackson update the coaching system?  He has never been anywhere else and is part of the old system.  

If Danes breakout system is this throw it off the boards or loft it up to center ice and have the forwards try to track it down time after time, I'm already through with Dane Jackson. Teams who do this as much as we do are saying we cannot play at the same level as the opponents and we will just have to rely on a bounce of the pick to have a chance. 

[George M. Bluth]

25 minutes ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Well Morgan Wallen was on SNL last night. 

[tnt]

Just now, dden3 said:

If Danes breakout system is this throw it off the boards or loft it up to center ice and have the forwards try to track it down time after time, I'm already through with Dane Jackson. Teams who do this as much as we do are saying we cannot play at the same level as the opponents and we will just have to rely on a bounce of the pick to have a chance. 

I think we didn’t do that enough to live another day.  How many times did they turn it over instead of getting it out of the zone — Strathmann.

[Cratter]

Whomever Dane hires as his assistants better be good because we all know one will be the next UND head coach in a few years after Dane is gone.

[petey23]

11 hours ago, nascar99 said:

So we'll revisit this in 365 days and make our assessment of how dumb/smart that was

Hopefully in about 379 days.

 

11 hours ago, tnt said:

So in the same sense, Berry was under Hak, so things should have continued?  I hope Jackson uses all the tools and knowledge from Hak and other people he knows in the hockey world and takes the best of each.  New assistants could help bring new ideas, fresh perspective, and a closer relational tie to the players.

 

[petey23]

11 hours ago, Cratter said:

Absolute bonkers they'd choose Dane Jackson over Nick Fohr!

This was the exact same as the Bubba hire over Kalen Deboer!

 

[Frozen4sioux]

3 minutes ago, petey23 said:

Hopefully in about 379 days.

 

 

ISWYDT

[Hayduke1]

Ok.  It is Jackson. 
 

now.  Who will he bring in as an assistant?  

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Our athletes need to learn how to be respectful guests. Pikes probably kicked their asses.  (Pure rumor). 
 

[Cratter]

4 hours ago, petey23 said:

At least Bubba Schweigert was younger than Dane Jackson when he was hired to be the head coach.

Both got the positions because of the UND connection,

Over younger, rising stars (chippahs) with more hunger and drive.

Dane, like Berry, now has to learn to run the entire program. As both had never really been a head coach of anything before (unless you count Dane replacing the one coach who died during the season).

Hakstol and Blais, had head coaching experience and were "young"...not hard to see a clear pattern of key ingredients that separate these two groups:

Berry, Dane

Hakstol, Blais

[thUNDer]

1 hour ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Pure rumor here folks. But Allegedly 3 or 4 of the hockey players got in a fight with the brothers of Pi Kappa Alpha (Pike) at there house last night. A chair was swung at someone. (Names I have heard were Swanson, Boisvert and EJ). Again I don’t have specific details, I just know something allegedly happened 

Oh my, knew the Pike house very well back in the 70s. Sounds more like the SigNu’s 

[thUNDer]

2 hours ago, Brucesky02 said:

As one of a select few people on here with experience being coached by Dane, I figured I should share my two cents.

Now…I wasn’t exactly on the UND hockey team, per-se, but I did take the intro to ice hockey class from Hak and Dane would often come help. I clearly recall him telling me to crash the net from the wing looking for a rebound from an opposite side shot and that same week, I did exactly that in my (lowest tier) intramural game and scored. (My only goal of the season)

Point being - he made me a better player. More importantly, I have only ever heard good things about him from guys who were actually on or around the team. 

I hope we get to see a new or mostly new coaching team under him and of course, success on the ice next year. I’m excited to see what he can do.

Thanks for sharing but you were reported to the mods for such a thoughtful post.

[.357]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

This hire looks safe from the surface but in reality Chaves’ neck is really on the line here. Success needs to be immediate or this hire looks terrible given all the optics. Had he hired someone from outside the program I’d guess he would have a little more leeway.  This could end up looking so lazy and stupid. 

Agreed. If I'm an AD & I'm trying to extend my already tenuous career, hitting the easy button & hiring the much-admired Jackson doesn't sound like a very wise move. Expectations will be immediate & the team better be bang-on from the drop of the puck next year. 

Whereas if Herter was chosen, he easily gets a 3-4 yr grace period to establish himself considering he's new & that some players may bolt because of him. But considering his body of work with UMD & Western, it sounds like it doesn't take him a long time to help turn lesser-resourced teams around. Plus hiring him likely cleans up the multitude of D issues in short order.

[Brett0909]

Like many others, I’m starting to come around and get on board with Dax. He wasn’t my first choice, as some magical fresh start and mystery candidate that would blow us away was so appealing. But, mostly I was just frustrated with what we’ve seen most of the last decade.

It’s requiring me to put away my Internet ego, that even though I know I don’t have the facts, I somehow know better than the AD & Martinson, previous & existing players, NHL/AHL GM’s, (rumor) Hak’s endorsement, etc. 

Some food for thought for those pissed that the “players are holding this decision hostage“.. these players: 1) know hockey at an elite level with exposure to the best, and worst of coaches out there, 2) are deeply personally invested in their development, skills, and ability to get to the next level 3) get to see Jax every day, and are giving their full vote of confidence that they’d rather play for him than any other coach in the country (college or next-level of pro), 4) know that he is going to be no nonsense and push them extremely hard, but are still willing to run through a wall for him,  5) came to UND to WIN, and 6) know exactly what is, and isn’t, going on within that locker room including Barry being out, and are getting immediately behind Jax.

I’m not saying that the players should be able to make the decision or should make threats about the outcome, but why shouldn’t they have an important voice in the hiring decision of who’s the right guy to lead them and their peers? To me, this makes them a very reliable indicator of who’s the right man for the job. If you lineup all of those points above, they hit on nearly everything that we as a fan base want to see in the next head coach, and the players certainly know better than any of us what they’re getting with him.

The biggest thing still remaining for me is can he modernize the game and make the decisions that will keep them at an elite level, given all of his recent experience is executing the systems and product that we’ve been seeing and are frustrated with. I’m cautiously optimistic his choices in the staff he builds around him will be enough to put this to rest. 

Plus as an added bonus, the guy will work harder than anyone, bleeds green, and if he does find big success.. is much more likely to stick around and continue it vs. just using it to quickly leapfrog into the NHL.