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[nascar99]

13 minutes ago, beastandco said:

The bottom 6 forwards for USHL teams are division 1 guys. The bottom 6 forwards for CHL teams will be playing men’s league next year. 
 

The top end talent of the CHL is much better but the depth is not even close

There are tons of bottom 6ers in the CHL who've committed to CCHA programs lol

[Oxbow6]

What are the betting odds Spunar is here after two seasons??

[SIOUXELEVENS]

New coach , new attitude four year guy  

[stoneySIOUX]

58 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Thank goodness TJ got on a heater to get this team to the NCAA tourna.....

.....nevermind 

LOL regardless if they made the tourney or not, could you honestly say TJ didn't earn his time? And in turn, Hobie did not earn his time? Hard to pick on UND's goalie handling this year, IMO.

[stoneySIOUX]

1 hour ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

TJ played incredible the last 5-6 weeks, no doube about it. Leading up to that, Hobie and TJ had 2 very different leashes from the staff because it's safe to say TJ wasn't doing anything special for us the first half of the season. That being said we only got to see an hour of gametime for him each weekend so clearly the staff was seeing stuff in practice we aren't privy to. Either way, once Hobie is given the chance to take over consistently, he's going to succeed. 

I only saw glimpses. So, I am hard pressed to believe this. I hope so, but I am not certain. 

[burd]

Was the transition from more stand-up goaltending to butterfly style a prolonged one, or did the change happen fairly quickly.  Were some coaches and/or goalies at the front edge of that change?  Yeah, I know; nobody here will admit to being old enough to have a say.   Big change, though, and it had a big impact on shooting strategies.   Other than equipment, other big goaltending changes in more modern times?

Have goalies always been weird?   “Special” is what Wilbur would probably call it.

[Wilbur]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

What are the betting odds Spunar is here after two seasons??

As a 21 year old European I'd imagine that he is probably a flight risk if he plays well and gets an offer.  At the same time, there are worlds of professional opportunities over in Europe if he's ever homesick at some point.

Vegas odds he isn't here for all four years.....I'd say -500.    

[The Sicatoka]

22 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

As a 21 year old European I'd imagine that he is probably a flight risk if he plays well and gets an offer.  At the same time, there are worlds of professional opportunities over in Europe if he's ever homesick at some point.

Vegas odds he isn't here for all four years.....I'd say -500.    

How about "he is here four years":  +500 

 

[tnt]

2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

What are the betting odds Spunar is here after two seasons??

Sounds like he is using college as a stepping stone for his career, so who knows.  What are the betting odds that any goalie in college hockey sticks around if they aren't getting the playing time they think they deserve?   I am very intrigued by this Carter Casey with Waterloo via Grand Rapids, MN  as a potential recruit, so it might not be bad if we had room a couple years down the road.  

[hockeytherapy13]

3 hours ago, nascar99 said:

There are tons of bottom 6ers in the CHL who've committed to CCHA programs lol

I think it’s brilliant. Those teams might take some lumps early on bringing in lower end CHL guys. But they are building pathways and connections to those programs and coaches that might give them the inside tracks to get better guys later on. Maybe it won’t be the super high end players, but they may end up snagging those diamond in the rough or late bloomer players that make a bigtime impact in college. 

[Wilbur]

2 hours ago, burd said:

Was the transition from more stand-up goaltending to butterfly style a prolonged one, or did the change happen fairly quickly.  Were some coaches and/or goalies at the front edge of that change?  Yeah, I know; nobody here will admit to being old enough to have a say.   Big change, though, and it had a big impact on shooting strategies.   Other than equipment, other big goaltending changes in more modern times?

Have goalies always been weird?   “Special” is what Wilbur would probably call it.

To answer your questions:

~Depends on who you ask.  I think it was a prolonged one as you had guys like Ron Hextall who kept stand up goaltending alive, yet guys like Curtis Joseph who was a catalyst for going down on every shot.  Once you got into the 2000's, the butterfly was to goaltending what peanut butter is to jelly on bread.  Eddie Balfour was one who understood where goaltending was going, and changed his game from the stand up approach to the butterfly.  

A lot of people don't know that the RVH, which is what is a common approach used by like 95% of goaltenders now, was created in part by a female goaltender coach in Sweden.  Seems like it took over overnight, and now its what you see taught everywhere. 

~To answer your second question, it takes a different mindset to play the position.  A special mindset.      

[stoneySIOUX]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

To answer your questions:

~Depends on who you ask.  I think it was a prolonged one as you had guys like Ron Hextall who kept stand up goaltending alive, yet guys like Curtis Joseph who was a catalyst for going down on every shot.  Once you got into the 2000's, the butterfly was to goaltending what peanut butter is to jelly on bread.  Eddie Balfour was one who understood where goaltending was going, and changed his game from the stand up approach to the butterfly.  

A lot of people don't know that the RVH, which is what is a common approach used by like 95% of goaltenders now, was created in part by a female goaltender coach in Sweden.  Seems like it took over overnight, and now its what you see taught everywhere. 

~To answer your second question, it takes a different mindset to play the position.  A special mindset.      

"special"

KIDDING!!! 🤣

[The Sicatoka]

Goaltenders and catchers wear "the tools of ignorance". 

 

... and yes, I was the emergency back-up of each ... 

[cberkas]

2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

To answer your questions:

~Depends on who you ask.  I think it was a prolonged one as you had guys like Ron Hextall who kept stand up goaltending alive, yet guys like Curtis Joseph who was a catalyst for going down on every shot.  Once you got into the 2000's, the butterfly was to goaltending what peanut butter is to jelly on bread.  Eddie Balfour was one who understood where goaltending was going, and changed his game from the stand up approach to the butterfly.  

A lot of people don't know that the RVH, which is what is a common approach used by like 95% of goaltenders now, was created in part by a female goaltender coach in Sweden.  Seems like it took over overnight, and now its what you see taught everywhere. 

~To answer your second question, it takes a different mindset to play the position.  A special mindset.      

Goalies like UND great Petey are against the RVH used every time the puck is down low.

[siouxkid12]

6 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

I only saw glimpses. So, I am hard pressed to believe this. I hope so, but I am not certain. 

I don’t think they had different leashes. What us fans didn’t see was how those two practiced and I feel like TJ just wanted it more during that time. It’s nothing against Hobie as I believe he will be fine, I just think mentally Hobie was defeated (I’m sure when Berry kept bringing in transfers goalies it screwed with his mind).

[siouxfaninseattle]

16 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

I don’t think they had different leashes. What us fans didn’t see was how those two practiced and I feel like TJ just wanted it more during that time. It’s nothing against Hobie as I believe he will be fine, I just think mentally Hobie was defeated (I’m sure when Berry kept bringing in transfers goalies it screwed with his mind).

And I think that's where the "why would you want to come in a freshman" comment comes from. Four straight years of bringing in a portal goalie doesn't exactly instill confidence in a recruit.

[Oldguy]

Spunar seems like a very good get - one that was unexpected.  So totally new set of GT's, and some new veteran forwards.  

Currently at six portal players on the roster, with 5 of them likely being starters.  And, I expect another starting center, at minimum, so likely 1/3 of those who dress on game day will be portal guys.  Crazy new era, but I'm finding the offseason very interesting to follow.

[tnt]

41 minutes ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

And I think that's where the "why would you want to come in a freshman" comment comes from. Four straight years of bringing in a portal goalie doesn't exactly instill confidence in a recruit.

I would be upset if the coaches didn’t bring in the player they thought would best help us win.  Frankly, I don’t want a goalie who thinks the net is mine after this guy leaves.  I want a goalie who is confident in his abilities to compete whether he is competing against a transfer or a recruited goalie.  I don’t think you play “the goalie of the future” unless it is basically a wash.  Competition at every position should be the goal of the program, and guys need to earn playing time all the time.

[Oxbow6]

20 minutes ago, tnt said:

I don’t think you play “the goalie of the future” unless it is basically a wash.  Competition at every position should be the goal of the program, and guys need to earn playing time all the time.

Obviously you must have missed the past few seasons as far how the forward group gained playing time.

[burd]

5 hours ago, Wilbur said:

To answer your questions:

~Depends on who you ask.  I think it was a prolonged one as you had guys like Ron Hextall who kept stand up goaltending alive, yet guys like Curtis Joseph who was a catalyst for going down on every shot.  Once you got into the 2000's, the butterfly was to goaltending what peanut butter is to jelly on bread.  Eddie Balfour was one who understood where goaltending was going, and changed his game from the stand up approach to the butterfly.  

A lot of people don't know that the RVH, which is what is a common approach used by like 95% of goaltenders now, was created in part by a female goaltender coach in Sweden.  Seems like it took over overnight, and now its what you see taught everywhere. 

~To answer your second question, it takes a different mindset to play the position.  A special mindset.      

Thanks for that reply, Wilbur.  

[SJHovey]

9 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

What are the betting odds Spunar is here after two seasons??

Do we want him here four years? I’d like a goaltender pros are begging to sign.

[brianvf]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

Obviously you must have missed the past few seasons as far how the forward group gained playing time.

Would hope that Jax will run a different program in regards to playing time. 
We’ll see I guess. 

[siouxweet]

24 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Would hope that Jax will run a different program in regards to playing time. 
We’ll see I guess. 

Based on what he said at his press conference that would be the indication. 

[tnt]

32 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Would hope that Jax will run a different program in regards to playing time. 
We’ll see I guess. 

But he is not going to go by just who is the more flashy offensive guy like some would like.  Obviously if the upside outweighs the defensive liability which was the case with Blake, that is a consideration, but have a feeling we might need to be winning 2-1 or 3-2 games until Chyzyk can work some recruiting magic.

[siouxfaninseattle]

1 hour ago, SJHovey said:

Do we want him here four years? I’d like a goaltender pros are begging to sign.

And stays anyway!