The top team in the land visits the Ralph. Denver @ UND

[brianvf]

@Oxbow6, you'll get a kick out of this...appears that CHN is now showing xG in their box scores.
First time I've noticed that.

And it's probably broken, because xG barely gave DU the win tonight...3.6 to 3.3. 

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20241115/den/ndk/

[cberkas]

39 minutes ago, brianvf said:

@Oxbow6, you'll get a kick out of this...appears that CHN is now showing xG in their box scores.
First time I've noticed that.

And it's probably broken, because xG barely gave DU the win tonight...3.6 to 3.3. 

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20241115/den/ndk/

They started talking about it in a podcast recently 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

4 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

Hope the taunt from Zeev motivates the team for tomorrow

Between going on birthright and spending a good amount of my 20's in youth hostels, not the least bit surprised to see him do that.

[.357]

1 hour ago, GDPritch said:

Regardless, DU is s superior team.

And that superiority extends to their coaching staff, it couldn't be any more obvious than after tonight. A team is a reflection of its coach.

UND has plenty of talented players, there's no reason why they can't at least be competitive with DU. But they continue to make bonehead plays, are undisciplined when it comes to penalties, cannot string together 60 minutes & the element of teamwork seems to be an alien concept for them. All this even after 6 weeks, which smacks more of a coaching/managing/motivating issue than a personnel one. 

11 games into the season & UND played no better tonight than in their embarrassing loss to Augustana. Even with a full lineup then, UND looked lost. That game was an omen of what to expect this season. UND can overpower weaker teams with nice individual plays, but are like a ship without a rudder when they face talented, disciplined teams like DU; because playing like a bunch of individuals will always lose out to a well-structured team.

[Oxbow6]

5 hours ago, brianvf said:

@Oxbow6, you'll get a kick out of this...appears that CHN is now showing xG in their box scores.
First time I've noticed that.

And it's probably broken, because xG barely gave DU the win tonight...3.6 to 3.3. 

 

5 hours ago, cberkas said:

They started talking about it in a podcast recently 

 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

After rewatching the game we looked very slow and not reacting well to DU pressure. No time or space at all. DU being very young they play like a veteran team. We were skating in quicksand and looked slow especially on the power play. 

[Irish]

5 hours ago, .357 said:

And that superiority extends to their coaching staff, it couldn't be any more obvious than after tonight. A team is a reflection of its coach.

UND has plenty of talented players, there's no reason why they can't at least be competitive with DU. But they continue to make bonehead plays, are undisciplined when it comes to penalties, cannot string together 60 minutes & the element of teamwork seems to be an alien concept for them. All this even after 6 weeks, which smacks more of a coaching/managing/motivating issue than a personnel one. 

11 games into the season & UND played no better tonight than in their embarrassing loss to Augustana. Even with a full lineup then, UND looked lost. That game was an omen of what to expect this season. UND can overpower weaker teams with nice individual plays, but are like a ship without a rudder when they face talented, disciplined teams like DU; because playing like a bunch of individuals will always lose out to a well-structured team.

It's gone from expecting to bring it against Denver at home to hoping we won't be embarrassed.  Berry needs to get things together. 

[hockeytherapy13]

7 hours ago, cberkas said:

Can someone explain why this guy keeps tweeting about wanting a Perron jersey?

I’m about 90% certain that guy is a troll pretending to be a former UND athlete. It’s a ruse. 

[hockeytherapy13]

7 hours ago, shep said:

Men against boys tonight, though just after the goal to cut it 3-2 the goalie gave up a softie, so there’s hope

Did you see what led to that “softie”? We allowed an even strength cross ice pass down through the slot that they one-timed. Goalie had to go post to post and still got a good piece of it but he was badly hung out to dry. That’s on the D and forwards in our zone blowing coverage and having poor positioning.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

Through 11 games Denver still has not played anyone. 

[90siouxfan]

33 minutes ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

Did you see what led to that “softie”? We allowed an even strength cross ice pass down through the slot that they one-timed. Goalie had to go post to post and still got a good piece of it but he was badly hung out to dry. That’s on the D and forwards in our zone blowing coverage and having poor positioning.

Is that the play where the DU player crosschecked our guy to the ice right to Helterskelter's left, possibly distracting him?

[gfhockey]

Maybe we should switch back to althru didn’t have nearly as much injuries with them

[Prison_Mike]

59 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Through 11 games Denver still has not played anyone. 

 

[Wilbur]

So watched the goals that TJ gave up last night.  Not a lot he can do on the first three.  First one is a first rounder from below the hash marks, second one went off our guy on a screen, third one our d coverage left him out to dry, and the fourth one would've been a great save to his left that he will say he wants back but we left a guy wide open off the wall in d zone coverage.

I'm all about getting Hobie in too, but those weren't soft goals.  Our d zone was awful, and those are goals on him too.  

[Kevin G]

I'd like to see Hobie in net tonight. The experience--whether good or bad--should be helpful long term. 

[.357]

2 hours ago, Irish said:

Berry needs to get things together. 

Berry's been spending the last 9 years trying to get things together. 

UND is no more a functional, cohesive team now than when they played Augustana. It almost seems like they regressed last night. And zero improvement from last year's biggest weakness, which was dealing with a heavy forecheck. A bunch of individuals trying to hit home runs with breakaways instead of focusing on passing, puck possession, sound positional play, etc.

DU lost a lot of talent from last year & someone said they're the second- or third-youngest team in the country. Yet their young players have zero problems playing like a team & with discipline. It's clear what the issue is.

[90siouxfan]

I had thought about why Carle is better than Berry.   The mindset of Carle's players installs a lot of trust in thier teammates, which helps thier creativity.  Berry seems to install a mindset of being prepared for your teammates to make mistakes and be prepared/in place to cover.  Fine line in my humble opinion and I think I drove by a Holiday Inn Express next to the Dakota Dome yesterday,  so probably legit analisis.

[.357]

15 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

I'd like to see Hobie in net tonight. The experience--whether good or bad--should be helpful long term. 

I agree, but he'll probably experience Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as a result. 

[ksl_sioux4ever]

I'm still try to figure out why 8 and 27 were split. They are the only players on the team to play with chemistry it seems. I've given up trying to figure out the coaching decisions.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

13 minutes ago, ksl_sioux4ever said:

I'm still try to figure out why 8 and 27 were split. They are the only players on the team to play with chemistry it seems. I've given up trying to figure out the coaching decisions.

Agree on that 

[90siouxfan]

2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Maybe we should switch back to althru didn’t have nearly as much injuries with them

Can you expand this before you get to lit up today?

[Godsmack]

8 hours ago, .357 said:

And that superiority extends to their coaching staff, it couldn't be any more obvious than after tonight. A team is a reflection of its coach.

UND has plenty of talented players, there's no reason why they can't at least be competitive with DU. But they continue to make bonehead plays, are undisciplined when it comes to penalties, cannot string together 60 minutes & the element of teamwork seems to be an alien concept for them. All this even after 6 weeks, which smacks more of a coaching/managing/motivating issue than a personnel one. 

11 games into the season & UND played no better tonight than in their embarrassing loss to Augustana. Even with a full lineup then, UND looked lost. That game was an omen of what to expect this season. UND can overpower weaker teams with nice individual plays, but are like a ship without a rudder when they face talented, disciplined teams like DU; because playing like a bunch of individuals will always lose out to a well-structured team.

What frustrated me listening to Berry’s post game comments last night was his acknowledgment of the penalty trouble the team got into. Broken record, tired of hearing about that week in and week out without any sense of improvement in that regard.
 

As an example, the penalty we took in the third didn’t burn us in the sense of giving up another goal but it took another precious 2 minutes off the clock for the team to try to generate some chances, gain some momentum. However, it felt like a period where DU really locked things down and UND had trouble as it was with zone entries and gaining O zone time. Quit talking about what we need to do differently and start doing it. 

[gfhockey]

5 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

Can you expand this before you get to lit up today?

We switched to Stanford as official doctors

[90siouxfan]

21 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

We switched to Stanford as official doctors

Does that mean the official doctors are involved with preventive care and practice calls. Or are they more of a "send me your hurt" service?

[Oxbow6]

Put OMac at center between James and Strinden. Move the 5th back with Schmaltz and add Kunz. Swanson Sasha and Perron. Last 3 are your the 4th line. Got get some creativity on offense.