Jump to content
SiouxSports.com Forum

The top team in the land visits the Ralph. Denver @ UND


Wilbur

Recommended Posts

39 minutes ago, brianvf said:

@Oxbow6, you'll get a kick out of this...appears that CHN is now showing xG in their box scores.
First time I've noticed that.

And it's probably broken, because xG barely gave DU the win tonight...3.6 to 3.3.  :D

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20241115/den/ndk/

They started talking about it in a podcast recently 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, GDPritch said:

Regardless, DU is s superior team.

And that superiority extends to their coaching staff, it couldn't be any more obvious than after tonight. A team is a reflection of its coach.

UND has plenty of talented players, there's no reason why they can't at least be competitive with DU. But they continue to make bonehead plays, are undisciplined when it comes to penalties, cannot string together 60 minutes & the element of teamwork seems to be an alien concept for them. All this even after 6 weeks, which smacks more of a coaching/managing/motivating issue than a personnel one. 

11 games into the season & UND played no better tonight than in their embarrassing loss to Augustana. Even with a full lineup then, UND looked lost. That game was an omen of what to expect this season. UND can overpower weaker teams with nice individual plays, but are like a ship without a rudder when they face talented, disciplined teams like DU; because playing like a bunch of individuals will always lose out to a well-structured team.

  • Upvote 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, brianvf said:

@Oxbow6, you'll get a kick out of this...appears that CHN is now showing xG in their box scores.
First time I've noticed that.

And it's probably broken, because xG barely gave DU the win tonight...3.6 to 3.3. :D

 

5 hours ago, cberkas said:

They started talking about it in a podcast recently 

 

200w.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, .357 said:

And that superiority extends to their coaching staff, it couldn't be any more obvious than after tonight. A team is a reflection of its coach.

UND has plenty of talented players, there's no reason why they can't at least be competitive with DU. But they continue to make bonehead plays, are undisciplined when it comes to penalties, cannot string together 60 minutes & the element of teamwork seems to be an alien concept for them. All this even after 6 weeks, which smacks more of a coaching/managing/motivating issue than a personnel one. 

11 games into the season & UND played no better tonight than in their embarrassing loss to Augustana. Even with a full lineup then, UND looked lost. That game was an omen of what to expect this season. UND can overpower weaker teams with nice individual plays, but are like a ship without a rudder when they face talented, disciplined teams like DU; because playing like a bunch of individuals will always lose out to a well-structured team.

It's gone from expecting to bring it against Denver at home to hoping we won't be embarrassed.  Berry needs to get things together. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, shep said:

Men against boys tonight, though just after the goal to cut it 3-2 the goalie gave up a softie, so there’s hope

Did you see what led to that “softie”? We allowed an even strength cross ice pass down through the slot that they one-timed. Goalie had to go post to post and still got a good piece of it but he was badly hung out to dry. That’s on the D and forwards in our zone blowing coverage and having poor positioning.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

33 minutes ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

Did you see what led to that “softie”? We allowed an even strength cross ice pass down through the slot that they one-timed. Goalie had to go post to post and still got a good piece of it but he was badly hung out to dry. That’s on the D and forwards in our zone blowing coverage and having poor positioning.

Is that the play where the DU player crosschecked our guy to the ice right to Helterskelter's left, possibly distracting him?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So watched the goals that TJ gave up last night.  Not a lot he can do on the first three.  First one is a first rounder from below the hash marks, second one went off our guy on a screen, third one our d coverage left him out to dry, and the fourth one would've been a great save to his left that he will say he wants back but we left a guy wide open off the wall in d zone coverage.

I'm all about getting Hobie in too, but those weren't soft goals.  Our d zone was awful, and those are goals on him too.  

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Irish said:

Berry needs to get things together. 

Berry's been spending the last 9 years trying to get things together. 

UND is no more a functional, cohesive team now than when they played Augustana. It almost seems like they regressed last night. And zero improvement from last year's biggest weakness, which was dealing with a heavy forecheck. A bunch of individuals trying to hit home runs with breakaways instead of focusing on passing, puck possession, sound positional play, etc.

DU lost a lot of talent from last year & someone said they're the second- or third-youngest team in the country. Yet their young players have zero problems playing like a team & with discipline. It's clear what the issue is.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had thought about why Carle is better than Berry.   The mindset of Carle's players installs a lot of trust in thier teammates, which helps thier creativity.  Berry seems to install a mindset of being prepared for your teammates to make mistakes and be prepared/in place to cover.  Fine line in my humble opinion and I think I drove by a Holiday Inn Express next to the Dakota Dome yesterday,  so probably legit analisis.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...