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Oxbow6
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25+ years season ticket holder in multiple UND sports and my interest in the hockey program has never been so meh and apathetic. Got to that point with FB awhile back and made changes to my entertainm

nodakgirl93
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Is it terrible to admit I'm actually starting to lose interest in und hockey because of Berry? We all know what to expect from him as a coach by now. This definitely turning into a Lucia or Eaves situ

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This is a deeper issue than just a head coach. The whole athletic program at UND is in shambles. They have the facilities in place for football, basketball & hockey to win, but the personnel neede

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  On 11/6/2024 at 5:20 PM, Stack said:

What they showed in millions for the top 15  were: 

1: Providence: 7

2. BU: 7

3: Penn State: 6.5

4. BC: 6.2

5. Northeastern: 6

6. Quinnipiac: 6

7: Minnesota: 5.8

8. Notre Dame: 5.6

9: Omaha: 5.6

10: Clarkson: 5.5

11: North Dakota: 5.5

12: Colgate: 5.5

13: Duluth: 5.3

14: Michigan State: 5.1

15: Arizona State: 5

 

I was very surprised that Omaha was ahead of us in revenue. How the heck is that happening?

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that secret tunnel under the ralph that leads all the way to vegas.............lot of out fooball money goes down that hole imo

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  On 11/5/2024 at 5:20 PM, Irish said:

Really? - Berry's needs to get a team to play the full 60 every game.  We often take time to coast and lose focus - this is a huge problem - see last year's regionals where for some reason we didn't come out of the locker room to start the 3rd.  His record in regionals is pathetic.

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I thought I laid the sarcasm down pretty thick, but I guess not.

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Hockey is supposed to be the crown jewel of the athletic department and they arent even that good.  One championship in 20+ years.  The standards in the AD are so low

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  On 11/20/2024 at 3:35 AM, dden3 said:

Jim Montgomery is now out of a job. 

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He has the same # of NCAA titles as a head coach as Berry though.  That'd just be an even trade.
If we're gonna poach a DU coach, it would have to be the best coach in the world.  David Carle, of course.

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  On 11/20/2024 at 3:43 AM, brianvf said:

He has the same # of NCAA titles as a head coach as Berry though.  That'd just be an even trade.
If we're gonna poach a DU coach, it would have to be the best coach in the world.  David Carle, of course.

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I think I saw that his NHL winning percentage with Boston was .715...not too shabby.

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He has the same # of NCAA titles as a head coach as Berry though.  That'd just be an even trade.
If we're gonna poach a DU coach, it would have to be the best coach in the world.  David Carle, of course.

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5 years as a head coach, 2 frozen fours, 1 title and not missing the national tournament. Not really the same as Berrys record. However, if you took Berrys first 5 years vs Montgomery’s, I’d take Montgomery.

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  On 11/20/2024 at 9:13 PM, siouxkid12 said:

5 years as a head coach, 2 frozen fours, 1 title and not missing the national tournament. Not really the same as Berrys record. However, if you took Berrys first 5 years vs Montgomery’s, I’d take Montgomery.

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I thought all we cared about was the Natty?  :whistling:

1 title = 1 title  ;)

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  On 11/20/2024 at 9:29 PM, brianvf said:

I thought all we cared about was the Natty?  :whistling:

1 title = 1 title  ;)

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I do like national titles but being consistent and getting to the national tournament (and winning some games) is the first step.

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  On 11/20/2024 at 10:02 PM, siouxkid12 said:

I do like national titles but being consistent and getting to the national tournament (and winning some games) is the first step.

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That's what we had with Hakstol every year, but every season there was a Fire Hakstol thread regardless.

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  On 11/21/2024 at 12:37 AM, brianvf said:

That's what we had with Hakstol every year, but every season there was a Fire Hakstol thread regardless.

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The "Fire the Coach" diatribe is a running joke on message boards,  likely never change as long as fans live vicariously through the actions of others.

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  On 11/21/2024 at 12:37 AM, brianvf said:

That's what we had with Hakstol every year, but every season there was a Fire Hakstol thread regardless.

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You’re 100% correct that people always wanted Hak fired and now they are the same ones that want him back. 

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  On 11/21/2024 at 1:35 AM, siouxkid12 said:

You’re 100% correct that people always wanted Hak fired and now they are the same ones that want him back. 

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I admire your memory skills, I remember my opinion on the matter, but who said what, not a glimmer of individual recognition. 

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  On 11/21/2024 at 1:05 AM, 90siouxfan said:

I saw that number and noticed it was regulation wins, was he 0 fer 38 in OT?  I tire of people manipulating everything to twist my whiskers.

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So you're saying his OT numbers were a little subpar?

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  On 11/21/2024 at 1:35 AM, siouxkid12 said:

You’re 100% correct that people always wanted Hak fired and now they are the same ones that want him back. 

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Maybe some (like customers, fans are supremely discontent), but things aren’t nearly as black and white as everyone on the boards seems to recall or overly-generalize. I never wanted to fire Hak, even if it was head scratching how things always fell apart at the F4. But I’d definitely trade a Berry for a Hak today, even if it meant maybe they don’t win the NC in 16’. Very hard to imagine the program wouldn’t have had greater year-to-year success, and be in a better position today.

BUT it ain’t happening, so…we get to watch the team struggle to get back to where they were until some day when Berry hopefully figures it out. OR (and this is me, and many others), gradually lose interest, invest less time and financial support, and relegate ourselves to hoping to be surprised with some success instead of expecting it. A big bummer when the scales tip toward disappointment instead of joy, but thankfully there are tons of other sources of entertainment, especially for those of us outside of GFK. 
 

It wouldn’t hurt for us all to keep in mind though that everyone here cares (or they wouldn’t be on a fan forum), supports UND in their own way, and wants the team to succeed even if we have different opinions about what that entails. 

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  On 11/22/2024 at 2:48 AM, Brett0909 said:

It wouldn’t hurt for us all to keep in mind though that everyone here cares (or they wouldn’t be on a fan forum), supports UND in their own way, and wants the team to succeed even if we have different opinions about what that entails. 

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+1, well said!

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