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  On 10/9/2024 at 5:03 AM, brianvf said:

It is possible to expect more out of the program while at the same time not be re-hashing the same tired points over and over again for the last four pages.

The season hasn't even started yet.  The whole team and coaching staff has been preaching about how they have higher goals beyond the Penrose this season...which was met with enthusiastic "it's about time" comments around here.  So the team is hoping to continually build throughout the season to hopefully peak in March/April.
But yet one uninspired exhibition game and the people that "expect more of the program" are already jumping on the Fire Berry bandwagon.  In early October. 

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It was refreshing to hear Berry say that they wanted the team to hit their stride around playoff time by putting less emphasis on the Penrose this year. That change in perspective could pay dividends later in the year. Then last Saturday happened, which raised some huge red flags. Being critical of a team that was so disjointed is, imo, a healthier & more expected response than sugarcoating it; because the guys showed just how unprepared & unmotivated they were. And since Berry is the CEO of the team, it's only natural that a big portion of that criticism falls on him. Even though it was "just" an exhibition, because it's still an important game that sets the tone for the following weekend. 

Perhaps it was just a fluke, & hopefully Berry will make the needed corrections ahead of Providence; who will be just as pumped as Augustana to pull off the upset at the Ralph. My biggest concern (of the many that presented themselves) is having the D improve sufficiently enough in 7 days so they aren't exposed like they were against Auggie. A tall order in such a short time. It's hard to imagine that Emery, MacDonald & Strathmann will be playing at the same level this October that Britt, Pearson & Pyke were playing at last October. Big differences in experience. But hey, anything's possible. 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 7:52 AM, .357 said:

Being critical of a team that was so disjointed is, imo, a healthier & more expected response than sugarcoating it

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I was plenty critical of the teams play in the Augie game thread. I just don’t feel the need to continue to pile on throughout the entire week. 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 8:29 AM, brianvf said:

I was plenty critical of the teams play in the Augie game thread. I just don’t feel the need to continue to pile on throughout the entire week. 

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You were.  Criticism is good.  It keeps us honest.  But what I see from the predictable panic after a problematic loss is that there is criticism of the result and damn little actual hockey analysis.   Comes across as more fan hand wringing than hockey criticism.   But I've come to expect that, so I probably tend to see it when it's not there.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 5:03 AM, brianvf said:

It is possible to expect more out of the program while at the same time not be re-hashing the same tired points over and over again for the last four pages.

The season hasn't even started yet.  The whole team and coaching staff has been preaching about how they have higher goals beyond the Penrose this season...which was met with enthusiastic "it's about time" comments around here.  So the team is hoping to continually build throughout the season to hopefully peak in March/April.
But yet one uninspired exhibition game and the people that "expect more of the program" are already jumping on the Fire Berry bandwagon.  In early October. 

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Well said

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  On 10/8/2024 at 10:54 PM, dustnyou said:

I get a kick out of the “losing recruiting battles “ line some spit here. “We lose all the recruiting battles against DU, MN, UM, BU, BC” lol. So we don’t win any huh? The likes of Boisvert, Emery, Swanson, etc .. we didn’t WIN those recruiting battles against these same blue blood schools? UND must have been the only school recruiting them 1st rounders then.. :) 

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completely agree. But in defense of others on this site, I really do think it’s somewhere in the middle. You just dropped one recent recruiting class :). Some folks trend over the course of time. When rating recruiting, it’s important to define how a program is going to recruit. Blue chips, over agers, blend, etc 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 6:54 PM, scpa0305 said:

completely agree. But in defense of others on this site, I really do think it’s somewhere in the middle. You just dropped one recent recruiting class :). Some folks trend over the course of time. When rating recruiting, it’s important to define how a program is going to recruit. Blue chips, over agers, blend, etc 

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I have always favored a blend of 1-2 year blue chippers and 3-4 year guys. Overagers is just another term for guys nobody else wanted because they aren't that good, so we can't get stuck with those.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 8:05 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

I have always favored a blend of 1-2 year blue chippers and 3-4 year guys. Overagers is just another term for guys nobody else wanted because they aren't that good, so we can't get stuck with those.

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Haha, I agree on the blend piece. I don’t really see it that way for overagers. To me the players in that category can be very good college players. Typically they’re simply late bloomers who were immature during their draft years. They either will go late or not at all.

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  On 10/10/2024 at 2:29 PM, scpa0305 said:

Haha, I agree on the blend piece. I don’t really see it that way for overagers. To me the players in that category can be very good college players. Typically they’re simply late bloomers who were immature during their draft years. They either will go late or not at all.

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I never thought about the "late bloomers". I imagine we have had some of those over the years.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 5:03 AM, brianvf said:

It is possible to expect more out of the program while at the same time not be re-hashing the same tired points over and over again for the last four pages.

The season hasn't even started yet.  The whole team and coaching staff has been preaching about how they have higher goals beyond the Penrose this season...which was met with enthusiastic "it's about time" comments around here.  So the team is hoping to continually build throughout the season to hopefully peak in March/April.
But yet one uninspired exhibition game and the people that "expect more of the program" are already jumping on the Fire Berry bandwagon.  In early October. 

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I like the way you said this.  And it has to be said.

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  On 10/10/2024 at 2:29 PM, scpa0305 said:

Haha, I agree on the blend piece. I don’t really see it that way for overagers. To me the players in that category can be very good college players. Typically they’re simply late bloomers who were immature during their draft years. They either will go late or not at all.

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I would classify Cole Smith as a late bloomer. He probably didn't have many teams recruiting him, but he's now a regular in the NHL. 

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  On 10/11/2024 at 12:49 AM, Goon said:

I would classify Cole Smith as a late bloomer. He probably didn't have many teams recruiting him, but he's now a regular in the NHL. 

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I met his mom and sister? in Mankato during intermission years back waiting in line for the restroom. Super nice people.

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25 Most Intriguing NCAA Freshmen

https://www.flohockey.tv/articles/12894283-james-hagens-leads-list-of-25-most-intriguing-freshmen-in-college-hockey

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Sacha Boisvert, C, North Dakota (CHI)

Boisvert is such a natural fit into the way North Dakota plays. He has some edge to his game and a good work ethic, but Boisvert can also score as he showed in the USHL last year with the Muskegon Lumberjacks. That’s just what the Fighting Hawks will need from him, too. The 6-foot-2 center is going to be heavily involved in the offense and likely plays an outsized role in what UND will hope is a season of positive momentum.

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E.J. Emery, D, North Dakota (NYR)

A 6-foot-3, right-shot defenseman who can absolutely skate, Emery is still growing into his big frame. He can move pucks adequately and there’s probably more offense in his game than he has shown so far in his young career. Either way, North Dakota has a player that it can rely on in any situation and he’ll only get better as he develops over the next few years.

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Mac Swanson, C, North Dakota (PIT)

The USHL’s Player of the Year last year and Clark Cup Playoffs MVP knows how to impact the game. Swanson is undersized, but he competes and has enough skill to produce. He improved his rookie USHL scoring total by 22 points last season, finishing the year with 77, but he shone brightest in the playoffs with 17 points in 12 games. North Dakota needs someone with that kind of pedigree and the Alaska native will bring it.

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  On 10/8/2024 at 9:30 PM, scpa0305 said:

If we are still in that upper echelon of programs…absolutely. If we start being competitive in the NCAAs, absolutely. We need to figure out a way to compete in some recruiting battles with blue chips. The landscape is changing quickly. But…Bubs is a great coach. Ive heard from advisors, scouts, etc. Berry is very respected in the hockey world. 

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Are we a top 10 program anymore? Top 5? I don’t think so unfortunately……. 

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  On 10/8/2024 at 5:01 PM, Goon said:

Berry was in charge of recruiting when Hakstol was the coach. So that kind of negates your argument. Also, UNDer Berry, the team has landed many top-of-the-line recruits. 

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We finally have some top recruits this year, we will see what bubs can do with them……..

 

  On 10/8/2024 at 7:40 PM, scpa0305 said:

Way more with less? Hakstol had wagons. Not sure if he was the primary recruiter for all those guys but his teams were stacked!

Berry has had some nice seasons with success…just not the same success as Hak. The natty was awesome though!

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Hak got us to frozen fours, Berry missed multiple tournament fields…..

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  On 10/8/2024 at 5:01 PM, Goon said:

Berry was in charge of recruiting when Hakstol was the coach. So that kind of negates your argument. Also, UNDer Berry, the team has landed many top-of-the-line recruits. 

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Whether or not Berry was "in charge" of recruiting, players choose to play for the head coach first and foremost.  Berry is doing thy bidding for the head coach.  Under Hak we were known as NHL U.  No one says that anymore.  Recruiting as a whole has declined under Berry.  That's not to say we haven't had some good recruits, but as a whole it's been worse.  Also, Berry was only under Hak for a few years of Hak's tenure, yet Hak churned out great players and great results for many years prior.  You make your statement like Hak couldn't have existed without Berry which is incredibly untrue.

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  On 10/13/2024 at 6:49 AM, TwamleyShuffle said:

So is the only streaming option for those not in Grand Forks, for next week, the Midco sports plus package with CCHA hockey network? 

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Not sure…just know that the Mankato games do not appear on the NCHC.tv schedule.

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  On 10/14/2024 at 6:18 PM, Sodbuster said:

And how do you get that?

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  On 10/13/2024 at 1:21 PM, Blackheart said:

Not sure…just know that the Mankato games do not appear on the NCHC.tv schedule.

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The series should be part of the Big10+ package.  I believe the WCHA signed as a part of that package, and got out of the FloHockey deal.  I may be wrong about this as it shows CCHA+, and does not show up on the Big+ schedule.  It should be with the WCHA deal with them, but it is pretty confusing. 

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  On 10/14/2024 at 6:24 PM, KSSioux said:

 

The series should be part of the Big10+ package.  I believe the WCHA signed as a part of that package, and got out of the FloHockey deal.  I may be wrong about this as it shows CCHA+, and does not show up on the Big+ schedule.  It should be with the WCHA deal with them, but it is pretty confusing. 

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MIDCO+ or whatever it is called covers CCHA, B1G+ has WCHA games (along with NCHC.tv when St. Cloud and Duluth women's team plays at home)

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