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  On 4/3/2024 at 7:12 PM, tnt said:

Hopefully Dillon Simpson can use his personality to bond with these guys and convince them this is a nice place to play college hockey. 

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There's no way he doesn't have a better personality than Carle if we're battling against DU for Pohlkamp.  ;)

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  On 4/3/2024 at 8:54 PM, siouxweet said:

That's what we thought about Monty leaving a few years back and that didn't turn out too well.

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You’re right. Heck, I thought Denver made a drastic mistake getting rid of Gwoz and they would go downhill.  But they just keep getting better with each new coach. 
 

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I realize these kids are playing for a career in the NHL, but recruiting elite players is not like it was generations ago (Blais?) when a lot of them left small towns in Minnesota or the Canadian prairie and went directly to college.   Now, they're playing just about year round and spending several years in juniors.  The chippahs are on traveling teams before that.   They're getting culturally more sophisticated (or at least more experienced).   They still put hockey first, but if there are two relatively equal programs to chose from, and one is in Denver, Ann Arbor, or Boston and one is in Mankato or Grand Forks, that will be a factor to increasing numbers of kids, IMO.   To say nothing of NIL.  The day when Warroad/Roseau and Range kids identified with the small town culture in GF as opposed to the city kids in the Mpls, whom they saw as rivals growing up, is pretty much history.   Now, the elite kids in Roseau play against and with the elite twin city kids in venues and for teams other than their local high schools.  

I mean it isn't yet like BB, where the blue bloods at Kentucky are very familiar with the blue bloods at Duke and other elite BB factories.   They've often been teammates on traveling club teams growing up.  College hockey isn't that yet, thank Parise, but it's getting more so.  

But you all know from experience that I'm talking out of my arse on things like this.  I have no explanation for how one who knows so little can say so much.   

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Grand Forks has never had the amenities of places like Denver, Minneapolis or Boston. But it hasn't stopped us from winning championships. And there is no reason why UND can't continue to be a blue blood in this sport. The thought of devolving into a mid-major program whose highest goal is making the NCAA tournament is nauseating to say the least. It absolutely must not be allowed to happen.

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  On 4/3/2024 at 9:42 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Grand Forks has never had the amenities of places like Denver, Minneapolis or Boston. But it hasn't stopped us from winning championships. And there is no reason why UND can't continue to be a blue blood in this sport. The thought of devolving into a mid-major program whose highest goal is making the NCAA tournament is nauseating to say the least. It absolutely must not be allowed to happen.

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UND is still a national powerhouse and will continue to be for at least the near future.   And there are precedents, even in elite-dominated college BB.   Spokane is hardly a cosmopolitan city, yet small school Gonzaga can compete with anybody.    

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  On 4/3/2024 at 9:42 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Grand Forks has never had the amenities of places like Denver, Minneapolis or Boston. But it hasn't stopped us from winning championships. And there is no reason why UND can't continue to be a blue blood in this sport. The thought of devolving into a mid-major program whose highest goal is making the NCAA tournament is nauseating to say the least. It absolutely must not be allowed to happen.

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Duluth is the bunghole of North American and it has not stopped UMD from winning 3 recent national titles. 

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Speaking of rural Minnesota culture, what's on the Angle up there on Lake of the Woods?   Any villages?   Rental cabins for fishing?  Sasquatch?

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  On 4/3/2024 at 9:42 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Grand Forks has never had the amenities of places like Denver, Minneapolis or Boston. But it hasn't stopped us from winning championships. And there is no reason why UND can't continue to be a blue blood in this sport. The thought of devolving into a mid-major program whose highest goal is making the NCAA tournament is nauseating to say the least. It absolutely must not be allowed to happen.

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IMO, the tide is turning in these times & UND, Sioux, & city may be a breath of fresh air in comparison to the burbs for recruits & their parents.

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  On 4/4/2024 at 12:20 AM, thUNDer said:

IMO, the tide is turning in these times & UND, Sioux, & city may be a breath of fresh air in comparison to the burbs for recruits & their parents.

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I remember Parise liking the smaller campus feel that was like Shattuck.  Each recruit is different, some like the big cities and big campuses, some like a small town feel.  Some, the amenities mean a lot, some are sold on educational opportunities that suit their pursuits.  

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  On 4/3/2024 at 9:51 PM, burd said:

UND is still a national powerhouse and will continue to be for at least the near future.   And there are precedents, even in elite-dominated college BB.   Spokane is hardly a cosmopolitan city, yet small school Gonzaga can compete with anybody.    

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Not to mention Lawrence, Kansas.

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  On 4/3/2024 at 9:00 PM, Benny Baker said:

You’re right. Heck, I thought Denver made a drastic mistake getting rid of Gwoz and they would go downhill.  But they just keep getting better with each new coach. 
 

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Considering this some more …

In his 8 seasons following a title, Berry is 1-4 in the NCAAs.

In his 8 seasons following back-to-back titles, Gwozdecky was 1-6 in the NCAAs. 

Seems like things may have paid off by firing a coach who managed 1 NCAA win in 8 seasons despite prior national championship success.

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  On 4/4/2024 at 4:35 AM, Benny Baker said:

Considering this some more …

In his 8 seasons following a title, Berry is 1-4 in the NCAAs.

In his 8 seasons following back-to-back titles, Gwozdecky was 1-6 in the NCAAs. 

Seems like things may have paid off by firing a coach who managed 1 NCAA win in 8 seasons despite prior national championship success.

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Certainly paid off ten years ago in Madison when Mike Eaves was fired, and twelve years ago in East Lansing when Rick Comley was forced out by a disgruntled fan base.

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Does a recruit want to go to a school where hockey is 3rd or 4th on the agenda or come to UND where it is #1 for a whole community? I think some players can't handle that kind of pressure, but if they want to get to the NHL they need to learn to handle that pressure. UND sets a player up to get used to that pressure and it shows with the number of players we have in the show at any given time. 

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