2024 UND Football

[gfhockey]

1 minute ago, wheelsup said:

Does anyone have the average Coordinator salaries in the MVFC and Big Sky?  Just curious how we stack up overall / sounds like we stack up poorly but there has to be stats somewhere. 

Glass half empty.. This is really a gut punch.  I was looking forward to seeing if the offensive struggles this last year were Danny or Tommy (by the way the defense was the problem last year not the offense) but i was still very excited about seeing the offense with one of the new QB's running the show.  I hope the offense doesn't get gutted in the portal after spring ball.  We need to get new coaches in here ASAP to stop the bleeding and keep our offensive players.  Seems like there should be some real potential out there.. Jake Landry? Luke Schleusner? but I have low faith in our ability to attract one of those fellas.  So we will see what happens.

Glass half full.. if you think Danny has the future head coach potential at UND its great for him to go get experience in a winning organization rather than continue to promote the inbreeding within.  Also this could be an opportunity for an OC with some vision to come into UND and set himself up to be the next head coach.

Overall super disappointed.. no other way to take it.  The strength of our team was the Offense.. the Defense is a disaster and here we are with a gigantic question mark now on the offensive side of the ball. 

Who would want this job to be honest? Bubba himself on the radio even said he is a defense minded coach and defense first (look at our d stats since Schmidt left and it’s a lol) 

 

and it’s going in to a lame duck here

 

wonder how many playas Danny gunna snag out if the portal

 

plus they have a nil collective

 

 

[shep]

This is a step up for Danny bc he’s going to the 2 time National Champs.

For those thinking he wasn’t good here, just remember the 2 time national Champs wanted him.

His O vs them over the last 2 years was better than almost all other opponents.

[UND-FB-FAN]

41 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I heard it to. Sounded very weird. Something is off

What a joke.

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, shep said:

This is a step up for Danny bc he’s going to the 2 time National Champs.

For those thinking he wasn’t good here, just remember the 2 time national Champs wanted him.

His O vs them over the last 2 years was better than almost all other opponents.

He was good here. No one else on current staff unfortunately was or is, though, so losing him to a lateral move to a conference peer is awful.

[gfhockey]

15 minutes ago, shep said:

This is a step up for Danny bc he’s going to the 2 time National Champs.

For those thinking he wasn’t good here, just remember the 2 time national Champs wanted him.

His O vs them over the last 2 years was better than almost all other opponents.

Wanted him as a position coach. A downgrade of what he was here

 

he is assistant oc and not the play calla

 

oribably saw he was good with qb but not playing calling

[homer]

7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

He was good here. No one else on current staff unfortunately was or is, though, so losing him to on a lateral move to a conference peer is awful.

I actually don’t hate the Pawlak idea if it’s going to be internal.  The guy has been equally if not more impressive than Danny in building and developing his position. 
 

Who knows about external.  Plenty of position guys that could be looking for an opportunity, similar to Danny.  
 

 

[AJS]

Repeating how the mass majority feels, but the way I also see it, the issues with the program currently are in this order (1) Bubba (2) Funding. The issue being, taking the next step as a program. Which will not happen as long as Bubba is here. The concern today, which wasn't there yesterday, is there's a chance Bubba burns this thing down on the way out. Chaves would be as to blame as Bubba if that happens. 

Let's circle in on the Freund decision. For those of us that watched all the games, the magic he had previous years was gone this year. If he did some self-reflection, there might have been some doubt (rightfully so) that he won't be the guy after Bubba. Still think if he thinks he's the guys in the next two years, he wouldn't leave. 

What's next. Need Chaves / Bubba to really dig deep here. The Hail Mary here is this is embarrassing enough to really reflect. Chaves makes it a point to better fund the program. Bubba thinks of his legacy a bit. Hopefully a bit humbling. Sell the OC hire as there's a really path to the head coaching position in short time.

[gfhockey]

Danny point blank saw the ship going down and didn’t see a bandaid in the coming year in a contract year 

he wanted out before he gets let go too in a house cleaning move

[gfhockey]

Btw this oc job has landry written all over ut

 

whats the process for external hires? Bison got there’s done in a week

 

do we still have to follow the rules and wait 3 weeks and post or whatever it is

[Teeder11]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Btw this oc job has landry written all over ut

 

whats the process for external hires? Bison got there’s done in a week

 

do we still have to follow the rules and wait 3 weeks and post or whatever it is

No.

[Big Green]

7 minutes ago, homer said:

I actually don’t hate the Pawlak idea if it’s going to be internal.  The guy has been equally if not more impressive than Danny in building and developing his position. 
 

Who knows about external.  Plenty of position guys that could be looking for an opportunity, similar to Danny.  
 

 

No Question IMO Pawlak is the best coach on the staff, but would hate to take away his time working with the O-line by promoting him to Coordinator.  Maybe pull an SDSU and promote to Co-Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach. and hire a Co-Offensive Coordinator/Play Caller.  And of course more Money.

 

 

[ChrisUND1]

When your UND alum OC leaves for a QB coach position at a conference mate (back to back champs, I know), and it’s seen as a move up and comes with a pay raise, you know all you need to know about the state of things at UND.  This could be said for all non hockey programs at UND.  Gotta find money.  Where is that money?

[gfhockey]

Go read papa belquist twitter

 

must be some issues at und

 

id assume bo is gone on April 15th too

[forksandspoons]

Poach an NDSU position coach 

[wheelsup]

14 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Btw this oc job has landry written all over ut

 

whats the process for external hires? Bison got there’s done in a week

 

do we still have to follow the rules and wait 3 weeks and post or whatever it is

would love to see a run taken at Jake Landry.. if our compensation is as bad as everyone says.. seems like he would prob be getting paid more at St Thomas as their OC/QB coach.

[Oxbow6]

......better not see the Griddy from Bubba ever again.

[siouxfan512]

We also don't know what was happening behind the scenes between these guys. Was Bubba allowing Danny to actually call everything, or was he restricting options?

I'm don't like the idea of an offense having too many trick plays, but those almost completely disappeared. Was that Danny's decision or Bubba's? If Danny felt he was being allowed to really do his job, maybe that was just another factor.

SDSU is going to be a far better resume builder than UND is. I'm sure Danny would have loved to stay at UND, but everything is pretty mucked up right now. Have to do what is best for your own family and career.

 

[siouxfan512]

1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

......better not see the Griddy from Bubba ever again.

Yet another factor that may have played into Freund's departure. If I had to watch that after every win over a sub par team, I'd want to leave too.

And Griddy is generous, its more of a hobble/skip while trying not to fall over. It looks ridiculous.

[NDRA]

10 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Poach an NDSU position coach 

Doubt that with what they pay their coaches comparison wise.

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, ChrisUND1 said:

When your UND alum OC leaves for a QB coach position at a conference mate (back to back champs, I know), and it’s seen as a move up and comes with a pay raise, you know all you need to know about the state of things at UND.  This could be said for all non hockey programs at UND.  Gotta find money.  Where is that money?

It's being spent on new locker rooms every few years at The Ralph (and a full-time chef). 

[AJS]

1 minute ago, siouxfan512 said:

We also don't know what was happening behind the scenes between these guys. Was Bubba allowing Danny to actually call everything, or was he restricting options?

I'm don't like the idea of an offense having too many trick plays, but those almost completely disappeared. Was that Danny's decision or Bubba's? If Danny felt he was being allowed to really do his job, maybe that was just another factor.

SDSU is going to be a far better resume builder than UND is. I'm sure Danny would have loved to stay at UND, but everything is pretty mucked up right now. Have to do what is best for your own family and career.

 

I'd argue that's a good thing. They rarely if ever worked last year when they tried them. Wish they would have taken that approach with 2-point conversions. If you never complete them, maybe stop doing them unless completely necessary. 

[gfhockey]

Maybe we could snag a position coach from Bemidji state

[forksandspoons]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Maybe we could snag a position coach from Bemidji state

I’m thinking U Mary…. 

[siouxfan512]

2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Wow anyone hear bubba on 1440

 

sounded like he was on coke this morning 

 

hasn’t met with that team yet but plans to today

 

says everyone that moves on makes their own bed etc

 

tim and the he golf guy said it’s a good move up for Danny. That is where I almost puked. So when is sdsu a step up 

 

they compared it to harbaugh leaving Michigan for nfl 

But but but .... everyone says Bubba is such a nice guy. If he is, then shouldn't he be happy for a guy who is trying to progress his career?

I get that it sucks to lose a guy to a regional rival school, but maybe Bubba needs to look at the situation and take a little ownership of what has been happening. Money is a factor, but not the only one.

Like everything else, Bubba hasn't adjusted to the times to realize these coaches aren't going to sit around stuck in their roles waiting forever either. Especially when the near future looks bleak.

Every year I get a little more sour on Bubba; can't even listen to the guy talk because he is so bland. You could play the same sound bite before and after every game. I'm at a point now  where I really can't wait for him to be gone and see who is next, and even if we take a step back, its still worth rolling the dice at this point. No one guy is bigger than the program and that includes Bubba.

[siouxfan512]

3 minutes ago, AJS said:

I'd argue that's a good thing. They rarely if ever worked last year when they tried them. Wish they would have taken that approach with 2-point conversions. If you never complete them, maybe stop doing them unless completely necessary. 

Not going to argue with you on the scheme part of that.

My point was whether it was Danny's call to stop those or Bubba's. How much autonomy was Danny given with the offense. There were a lot of question mark calls during critical situations over the past two seasons. Were those Danny or Bubba?