CMSioux Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Just to keep things balanced are we going to blame getting physically destroyed on the strength coach? Not against the new guy in any way fwiw. Asking for a friend, can a strength coach turn things around in six months? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Longtime fan Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 Let’s be honest. It doesn’t matter what und has for facilities or strength coach or player personal….etc. Bubba is going to bubba. 11 years of proof. Can’t win meaningful games on the road and can’t win playoff games. Yay!!??? Let’s go beat the Idaho states and Murray states of the world…end up with 6-7 wins and call it a moral victory season. With how weak the fcs is…being in the top 20 means squat. Only 4 teams have a yearly chance of the championship. As I mentioned after the Ndsu game …Ndsu is not much this year ….nothing special but the fcs is a joke so they are an automatic semi team. Fcs would be wise to have a top 10 ranking system only and a 16 team playoff field. The rest is a complete waste of time. With bubba…Und is as average at it gets. There should be no way !!!!!! ….that und isnt competing for a title every year. Ndsu sdsu Montana st and Montana get it. Und promotes and extends average. Winning a playoff game should be a requirement for an extension imo. But Und just extends for reasons unkown 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, CMSioux said: Asking for a friend, can a strength coach turn things around in six months? They can have an effect but I’ve already said it takes 3 years min to see the true effects of the new guy and really more like 8 so you have a full roster of guys that had only him as a strength coach in college. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Massey: 8 (down 2) Sagarin: 5 (up 2?) <- Dak4 are 1-2-3-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 So……we staring right down the barrel of yet another 7-5 season? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 History tells me that we win out next 3 games and lose the next 3 after that. Hope I am proved wrong and we can knock off at least one of the Sodak schools at home. 8-4 is the low bar set now for the rest of the year. Anything short of that would be a major disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 That was exhausting from a standpoint of our "hopes" were so high but reality kicked in, again. The thing is our die-hard fanbase is big enough that it doesn't matter to the AD. Attendance is up (due to the 4 wins) and that is all that matters because it means things must be going alright. Which is the state of the program for the last 17 years - alright. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: That was exhausting from a standpoint of our "hopes" were so high but reality kicked in, again. The thing is our die-hard fanbase is big enough that it doesn't matter to the AD. Attendance is up (due to the 4 wins) and that is all that matters because it means things must be going alright. Which is the state of the program for the last 17 years - alright. I get what you are saying, but that means in order to induce change at the top of the FB program, the die-hard and loyal supporters need to stop going to games? I am all for making sacrifices that will pay off in the future, but it is insane that it comes to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: History tells me that we win out next 3 games and lose the next 3 after that. Hope I am proved wrong and we can knock off at least one of the Sodak schools at home. 8-4 is the low bar set now for the rest of the year. Anything short of that would be a major disappointment. Haven’t looked at your schedule but I don’t foresee beating either SD school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, nd1sufan said: Haven’t looked at your schedule but I don’t foresee beating either SD school. I could say the same thing about your team and SDSU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Massey: 8 (down 2) Sagarin: 5 (up 2?) <- Dak4 are 1-2-3-5 send this to fenton so he can send to the people over in the "valley" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Haven’t looked at your schedule but I don’t foresee beating either SD school. Only thing is that they are both at home, with likely big crowds. Prior history suggests on the road we would have no chance, but you never know in the Alerus Center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGood Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Somehow stay in the top 10 after that performance. The FCS is hotdog water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Maybe the reverse of last year will happen. Instead of a blowout victory over NDSU leading to a collapse, the blowout defeat will be a turnaround. Lots of things in UND's favor yet: a bye week at a strategic time, weak road opponents, high profile home games. Still hoping for 9-3 (or better). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 5 minutes ago, GoodGood said: Somehow stay in the top 10 after that performance. The FCS is hotdog water After the top 5 it is a crapshoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 27 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: I could say the same thing about your team and SDSU. I don’t disagree. I don’t think NDSU will win at USD either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 34 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Haven’t looked at your schedule but I don’t foresee beating either SD school. have you seen our team in the Alerus Center? There is ALWAYS a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 39 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: I get what you are saying, but that means in order to induce change at the top of the FB program, the die-hard and loyal supporters need to stop going to games? I am all for making sacrifices that will pay off in the future, but it is insane that it comes to that. Lets think for a sec - how does change come about in college athletics? Apathy, losing, loss of revenue, declining interest, donors checking out...... I am not saying they NEED to stop going to games, it just happens. And right now it isn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Massey: 8 (down 2) Sagarin: 5 (up 2?) <- Dak4 are 1-2-3-5 I would call this weekend a victory then!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGood Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 6 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: I would call this weekend a victory then!! If you look at it from a completely analytical/unbiased point of view, you are absolutely correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 10:23 AM, Irish said: Bubba's gonna Bubba - he is hardwired - this is totally on Chaves. Chaves didn’t play. His primary role is to oversee the athletic department and put our teams and coaches in a position to be successful. I believe our FB program has the necessary resources to be successful. He , and the selection committee, are responsible for hires. At this point in the season it accomplishes nothing to kick that dead horse again. Those issues need to be addressed at the end of each season. For those who have played, I doubt you blamed others for lack of success. If you did, that’s why you sucked. When you were successful it was because you made it happen. Some may disagree, but the success and struggles are squarely on the shoulders of our players and coaches. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoopsFan03 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 10 minutes ago, iramurphy said: Chaves didn’t play. His primary role is to oversee the athletic department and put our teams and coaches in a position to be successful. I believe our FB program has the necessary resources to be successful. He , and the selection committee, are responsible for hires. At this point in the season it accomplishes nothing to kick that dead horse again. Those issues need to be addressed at the end of each season. For those who have played, I doubt you blamed others for lack of success. If you did, that’s why you sucked. When you were successful it was because you made it happen. Some may disagree, but the success and struggles are squarely on the shoulders of our players and coaches. Who is the one that gives coaches with .500 winning records endless contract extensions? I'd say that person definitely has a role in the lack of success from our athletic programs. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 10 minutes ago, iramurphy said: Chaves didn’t play. His primary role is to oversee the athletic department and put our teams and coaches in a position to be successful. I believe our FB program has the necessary resources to be successful. He , and the selection committee, are responsible for hires. At this point in the season it accomplishes nothing to kick that dead horse again. Those issues need to be addressed at the end of each season. For those who have played, I doubt you blamed others for lack of success. If you did, that’s why you sucked. When you were successful it was because you made it happen. Some may disagree, but the success and struggles are squarely on the shoulders of our players and coaches. This is exactly my point. As for Chaves addressing the issues at the end of the season - this has led to two extensions before his contract was up. That is my point. Clearly Chaves thinks Bubba is the way to go - as for the specific game vs the Bison - Bubba has given us exactly what he has shown throughout his career at UND for road games. I know Chaves didn't play - but he has Bubba's entire body of work to look at and clearly he thinks this is fine. I don't think anyone (except maybe Chaves) is surprised that Bubba and Co. laid an egg again Saturday. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Bubba clearly is not going to change and apparently neither is Chaves. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 4 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Who is the one that gives coaches with .500 winning records endless contract extensions? I'd say that person definitely has a role in the lack of success from our athletic programs. Good point, but I think the ultimate decision-maker is Armacost. If the President of UND made a commitment to excellence in athletics and held Chaves and the coaches accountable for their performance (or lack thereof), I think you would see some positive changes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 28 minutes ago, iramurphy said: Chaves didn’t play. His primary role is to oversee the athletic department and put our teams and coaches in a position to be successful. I believe our FB program has the necessary resources to be successful. He , and the selection committee, are responsible for hires. At this point in the season it accomplishes nothing to kick that dead horse again. Those issues need to be addressed at the end of each season. For those who have played, I doubt you blamed others for lack of success. If you did, that’s why you sucked. When you were successful it was because you made it happen. Some may disagree, but the success and struggles are squarely on the shoulders of our players and coaches. Missed the point, but I understand where you’re coming from with your facetious response. Getting blown out by NDSU time and time again, and consistently losing road games, and having zero playoff success, does all come down to the players and coaches, but the processes in place to select, employ, and terminate coaches, and also select/recruit the student-athletes, are all reasonable discussion points in due time. As for timing, it is not appropriate at this juncture, but certainly will be (again) in December/January. They were brought up last December/January, and again are being brought up now. I do appreciate @iramurphy perspective and opinions, truthfully, because it provides great insight into the faction that supports Bubba’s tenure, albeit justifiably overstayed. I’ll defer further comment on coach employment until this December/January, when the timing is again appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.