2023 Early Departures & Portal Transfers

[stoneySIOUX]

3 hours ago, Walsh Hall said:

How many programs have a better record or average pairwise finish than UND since Berry took over?  

Legit not worth your time, unfortunately.

[stoneySIOUX]

Yo, Mods.... this is way off track. 

Watching every hockey thread devolve into this is getting old.

[Big A HG]

45 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Yo, Mods.... this is way off track. 

Watching every hockey thread devolve into this is getting old.

 

All I have done is quote other messages and make counterpoints.  You only don't like what I have to say, which is fair, but what are you trying to accomplish?  This post of yours is more off track than any of mine have been.

[Frozen4sioux]

11 hours ago, thUNDer said:

Ummm, did I miss the MN & QU natty game? Nope, we did quite well against #1&#2 last Fall. 

The Qu team that played in the fall was a terrible team compared to the team by the time the tourney rolled around... its foolish to toss that out there as "validation" for the season.

In fact... I'd say it validates the anti-Berry crowd (of which I am not a part of at this time FWIW)... 

Both teams DID NOT play good hockey that weekend but, one team progressed and improved to the point of being the Natty Champ..

One team regressed and repeatedly under-preformed...

[scpa0305]

So Michigan, with all their blue chips…did they win the portal race too?

[The Sicatoka]

Tyler Duke (tOSU) jumped into the portal.
Speculation is he's going to end up with his brother Dylan (UMich). 

[scpa0305]

3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Tyler Duke (tOSU) jumped into the portal.
Speculation is he's going to end up with his brother Dylan (UMich). 

I believe he announced late last week or this past weekend.

Josh Eirnesse (St Thomas) flipped there too. I was actually hoping we were in on him. Put together a really nice season last year.

[The Sicatoka]

25 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

I believe he announced late last week or this past weekend.

< best Waylon Jennings impression voice >
So if the Duke boys end up together are they going to rename Yost to "Hazzard" so they'll have ... The Dukes of ... nevermind.

I'll show myself out. 

[mattim]

Is this an early departure/transfer portal thread or is it to just bash coaches thread? Each morning I see new comments have arrived only to be disappointed. 

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, mattim said:

Is this an early departure/transfer portal thread or is it to just bash coaches thread? Each morning I see new comments have arrived only to be disappointed. 

Bro, work with me, I'm trying, even if it's for other teams.   

[SiouxFanSince1990]

18 hours ago, Big A HG said:

 

I've lost count, but I've been here 12-13-14 years or something.  The fact you're first saying this now shows you'd be incorrect.  Though Hak never won a title, he continued to grow the program in a positive direction and made UND hockey fun and competitive.  Berry started on a high note and has not only failed to continue that growth, but our program has waned under his watch.  I've given Berry his chances after earlier program hardships which is why I wasn't vocal then, but when it's time to call a spade a spade, I'm not going to sit here and not voice my opinion.  That's what we're all here for, is it not?  Or, do many of you just want a safe space echo chamber of positivity?  Some are okay with where UND is at.  I don't get it, but fine...so be it.  I'm not happy and won't accept where our program is right now.  Everyone wants to give Berry more chances, but keep in mind, this isn't his first misstep.  Covid fog is gettin' to many of you.  

Okiedokie.

[siouxfan512]

17 hours ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Boy is that what we are after best avg finish , come on we are eight time champs. 

 

17 hours ago, Big A HG said:

 

What color are the Average Pairwise Finish Banners in the Ralph?  Are we trending up or down?  Are high end recruits interested in UND lately?  How many of our players that played well under Berry and gave some regular season success had their scouting and recruitment start under Hakstol?  

Its not even just banners or pairwise rankings that get to me. Its great to win the NCHC and its always nice to be ranked. For me, the best part of the Hak regime what that making the NCAA tourney was almost a forgone conclusion. He certainly had some close calls, but he always found a way to get there. Then there was the first round which also seemed like it was almost a guaranteed win, and the number of Frozen Four appearances made it so much fun. Sure BC had his number, but still. At least we were watching hockey right at the end.

[1966guy]

11 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

 

Its not even just banners or pairwise rankings that get to me. Its great to win the NCHC and its always nice to be ranked. For me, the best part of the Hak regime what that making the NCAA tourney was almost a forgone conclusion. He certainly had some close calls, but he always found a way to get there. Then there was the first round which also seemed like it was almost a guaranteed win, and the number of Frozen Four appearances made it so much fun. Sure BC had his number, but still. At least we were watching hockey right at the end.

Yes and the same crap went on that's going on now.  How many people wanted Hakstol fired because he couldn't win the big one?  This is a never ending cycle. The only way to solve this problem is to win a title every year.

 

People need to realize there are many good programs in the country and every one of them wants the same thing.  After 25 years of solid finishes and a few national titles and many conference titles there are bound to be a few down years.

 

Any suggestions from people on the sight as to they you would think would be a good pick to coach this team and reasons why that person is a good fit?

[Kevin G]

Jack Perbix transferring from Western Michigan to Northern Michigan. He started his college career at Minnesota. If Motzko had stayed at St. Cloud, I believe Perbix would have played there, like the other Perbix boys. Quite an odyssey for Jack.

[MoSiouxFan]

18 hours ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said:

I don't think you're remembering the 2019-2020 season very well.  It was one of only four seasons in UND hockey history where the team had a .800 winning percentage or higher (1986-1987 (Gino - with a title), 1998-1999 (Blais - one and done), 2015-2016 (Berry - with a title), and 2019-2020 (Berry - with a ?)).  Would they have won the title that season?  Who knows.  But they would have been the #1 overall seed, and I would have liked their chances against anyone.  Berry did a great job that season.

You're also severely discounting the 2020-2021 season, and forgetting that UND (again, the #1 overall seed) played a rested Duluth squad and lost in 5OTs.  If UND wins that game are you okay with Berry now?  

2021-2022 wasn't terrible either.  Another Penrose Cup (not the banner we all hope for, but a banner nonetheless).  Another OT loss in the NCAAs (Berry has been particularly snakebitten in OT as a head coach, see season enders in 2017, 2018, 2021, 2022, and 2023)), but what I would consider an above-average season.  

This past season was very frustrating, and a complete disappointment given the expectations coming into the season.  If next season ends the same way, I agree that looking at other options should be considered.  Until then, everybody here understands the point you've made over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.  Let's move on.

Please stop muddying the discussion with facts.

[siouxkid12]

22 hours ago, Big A HG said:

 

I've lost count, but I've been here 12-13-14 years or something.  The fact you're first saying this now shows you'd be incorrect.  Though Hak never won a title, he continued to grow the program in a positive direction and made UND hockey fun and competitive.  Berry started on a high note and has not only failed to continue that growth, but our program has waned under his watch.  I've given Berry his chances after earlier program hardships which is why I wasn't vocal then, but when it's time to call a spade a spade, I'm not going to sit here and not voice my opinion.  That's what we're all here for, is it not?  Or, do many of you just want a safe space echo chamber of positivity?  Some are okay with where UND is at.  I don't get it, but fine...so be it.  I'm not happy and won't accept where our program is right now.  Everyone wants to give Berry more chances, but keep in mind, this isn't his first misstep.  Covid fog is gettin' to many of you.  

If you want a safe space for positivity just go to "All things Fighting Sioux" on facebook. Mama Gaber will take care of you

[stoneySIOUX]

4 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

If you want a safe space for positivity just go to "All things Fighting Sioux" on facebook. Mama Gaber will take care of you

How about a space where we don't say the same crap, over and over and over and over? That's what I'd like to be safe from. 

[siouxkid12]

21 hours ago, jdub27 said:

You mean the one where UND was the number one overall seed going into the tournament that got cancelled?
Nothing guaranteed one way or another but if that season plays out, one of the two opinion camps have a data point to work with (and I'm stating it could have been either side).

For FO(* sake, lets not hang our hat on that season. I am sick of our fans saying "if we played that tournament, we would've been national champs", that season never played out and we will never know. The 98-99 team was one of the best teams UND ever had and they lost in their first game of the tournament that year. 

[siouxkid12]

1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said:

How about a space where we don't say the same crap, over and over and over and over? That's what I'd like to be safe from. 

Then everyone would have to leave Sioux Sports because everyone is equally to blame in saying the same crap over and over again.

[stoneySIOUX]

1 minute ago, siouxkid12 said:

Then everyone would have to leave Sioux Sports because everyone is equally to blame in saying the same crap over and over again.

LOL ok.

[burd]

I'm just glad I'll never live to see the day when our staff lets two native GF brothers and sons of a former Sioux athlete slip through their hands to play for our biggest rival, where they win two consecutive natties.    Not sure I could handle it.   For sure it would affect my social and professional lives and probably my libido.  

[siouxfaninseattle]

16 minutes ago, burd said:

I'm just glad I'll never live to see the day when our staff lets two native GF brothers and sons of a former Sioux athlete slip through their hands to play for our biggest rival, where they win two consecutive natties.    Not sure I could handle it.   For sure it would affect my social and professional lives and probably my libido.  

Unless you're posting from the great beyond, I think you have already seen that.

[burd]

2 minutes ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

Unless you're posting from the great beyond, I think you have already seen that.

No way.   They'd run the staff out of town on a rail, something I'd remember.  

[The Sicatoka]

9 minutes ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

Unless you're posting from the great beyond, I think you have already seen that.

After this season @burd is only dead on the inside ... so far.  

Now if you told him of the Potential Of The Unexpected Loss of Nearby Youth players from Grand Forks it might just bury him.

 

I'm trying to break it to him easy ...  

[jdub27]

51 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

For FO(* sake, lets not hang our hat on that season. I am sick of our fans saying "if we played that tournament, we would've been national champs", that season never played out and we will never know. The 98-99 team was one of the best teams UND ever had and they lost in their first game of the tournament that year. 

No one is hanging their hat on it. But pretending they weren't the #1 seed going into the tournament and had a very good chance to make a run is pretty ridiculous as well.