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[jdub27]

3 hours ago, GoodGood said:

No he inherited a team with Marlon Stewart, Filip Rebraca, DAE, and Kienan Walter. All players UND could desperately use right now

Yes, we went over that. He took them to the Summit Championship game. And then 2 of them graduated.
The next season it was only DAE and Rebraca, one of who spent half of his time looking for a new team.
And the 3rd season, he had none of those players. Point being, cupboard was bare.

Can you imagine what this team would actually look like if Rebraca, Ihenacho and Bruns were still on it? Man, that would be fun....

[NewUndFan]

So we will continue to blame the portal, the players,  the budget, living in grand forks all as reasons why we can't ever win.  When only one person is in charge of not losing players to the portal, making players better, finding ways to win games with your coaching ability and selling kids on coming to a high end school with a brand new campus.  Gotcha .  I guess we need to go back to D2 or love being in last place every year .  

[fightingsioux4life]

48 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

So we will continue to blame the portal, the players,  the budget, living in grand forks all as reasons why we can't ever win.  When only one person is in charge of not losing players to the portal, making players better, finding ways to win games with your coaching ability and selling kids on coming to a high end school with a brand new campus.  Gotcha .  I guess we need to go back to D2 or love being in last place every year .  

Hey, never EVER question the voice of reason (@jdub27)! He's Father Knows Best around here! (extreme sarcasm) 

[UND1983]

Our players are not championship caliber. End O Story.  Blame it on Sather, them, the rain, whoever. 

[SiouxFan100]

Idk

just tired and frustrated about where we are at

no end in sight

rebuild rebuild rebuild - no matter the reason 

[NewUndFan]

Maybe everyone else knows this but I searched Sathers salary. He gets $180K a year ?  And that's around the middle/top of the summit.  That seems like a good salary for competing for last place.  

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Hey, never EVER question the voice of reason (@jdub27)! He's Father Knows Best around here! (extreme sarcasm) 

Did I do that right? Or too much substance? 

[sioux24/7]

Part of my reason for being hesitant on saying Sather needs to go is because of how many real good basketball minds respect him and think he was a hell of a hire for us. I know everyone has dealt with the portal and Covid and all that but it also feels like no one has had worse luck than Sather too. I get it, that excuse is probably overused.

I guess I think some are afraid we are going to be letting go of an actual good coach too soon while others are convinced he’s the worst coach to step in the Betty. Which is it? I don’t know and it’s for Bill Chaves to decide. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

16 hours ago, UND1983 said:

Our players are not championship caliber. End O Story.  Blame it on Sather, them, the rain, whoever. 

You make a very convincing argument …. 

[UND-SPORTS-FAN]

Get the extension paperwork ready!

[sioux24/7]

17 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

Part of my reason for being hesitant on saying Sather needs to go is because of how many real good basketball minds respect him and think he was a hell of a hire for us. I know everyone has dealt with the portal and Covid and all that but it also feels like no one has had worse luck than Sather too. I get it, that excuse is probably overused.

I guess I think some are afraid we are going to be letting go of an actual good coach too soon while others are convinced he’s the worst coach to step in the Betty. Which is it? I don’t know and it’s for Bill Chaves to decide. 

Ok I’m ready. Move on. Mass exodus so be it. 

[F'n Hawks]

Unless they turn it around drastically somehow I think he is gone.

[GoodGood]

Can we just move on now? It literally cannot get any worse. Its been a long 2.5 years of this 

[UND-SPORTS-FAN]

Sather is a trash coach and just like his post game comments anyone with a basketball common sense can see that he needs to leave 

[Kab]

He sounded like a politician in radio post game

lots of reasons for the loss, turnovers, but no answers in correcting things 

‘biggest complaint is he can’t figure out how to use a timeout to try end runs 

[sioux24/7]

Just now, Kab said:

He sounded like a politician in radio post game

lots of reasons for the loss, turnovers, but no answers in correcting things 

‘biggest complaint is he can’t figure out how to use a timeout to try end runs 

The timeout thing is so frustrating. It happens every game. 

[SD UND]

5 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Well...... 3 straight losses at home to our rival 'Dakota' schools. All of which should have been winnable games against programs that are SIGNIFICANTLY down from last year. However, it resulted in 1 extremely embarrassing loss and 2 losses that should have been wins. 

The USD and SDSU games would have been wins if it weren't for extremely poor game management/usage of timeouts, poor playing calling and execution, and very poor usage of subs/rotations/being able to pick set rotations and sticking with it. At one point during the first half of the USD game I was starting to question if Sather had a case of memory loss and thought he was coaching hockey with how many line changes we saw. Somebody better check on him!

On the positive side of things, at least none of these losses really count or even matter since it is another rebuilding year! I am just glad that Sather is a great guy and that all the players are having fun! Winning is an afterthought! 

You're right, coach Sather doesn't care about winning and is all about having fun. I'm sure he is doing nothing to try and solve the issues. Just sitting back having coffee at Northside and enjoying his time in Grand Forks. 

It's too bad he didn't use more of his magical timeouts- if he would've taken one more 30 second timeout UND would have won by 10, because timeouts are magic.

[NewUndFan]

That's exactly what a good coach does.  Calls a timeout when another team is on a run.   The fact that you called them a magical timeout just takes credibility away from you. But I have seen Coach Sather do this many times in the past two years.  We blow large leads and just throw our hands up in the air.   Also the hockey line up changes needs to go!   Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes.    We should always have 3 or 4 starters on the court at all times.  

[jdub27]

2 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes.

From what I can tell, he's giving plenty of guys the chance for that role and they still can't find the right combo to take it and run.
Just when you think its close, you see why he needs to try another combo.
No doubt that it is incredibly frustrating but this isn't how he handled line-ups in the past. 

[NewUndFan]

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

From what I can tell, he's giving plenty of guys the chance for that role and they still can't find the right combo to take it and run.
Just when you think its close, you see why he needs to try another combo.
No doubt that it is incredibly frustrating but this isn't how he handled line-ups in the past. 

I agree that this year seems more frustrating finding those right bench players, but i think we can mostly agree who our starting 5 is.  Some of them need to be in when he brings in bench players.  Mass subbing and having all subs on the floor at the same time hasn't been working  

[SD UND]

11 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

That's exactly what a good coach does.  Calls a timeout when another team is on a run.   The fact that you called them a magical timeout just takes credibility away from you. But I have seen Coach Sather do this many times in the past two years.  We blow large leads and just throw our hands up in the air.   Also the hockey line up changes needs to go!   Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes.    We should always have 3 or 4 starters on the court at all times.  

 

56 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Uh oh.... I was worried about Sather's little minions coming out after that post!

Maybe do something to stop the run that SDSU was going on?? You know.... going from up 13 to down 11 in a five minute stretch is probably something that you don't want to happen. Maybe, just maybe, try do something to stop it??

I'm agreeing with both of you that he should have used his magical timeouts to stop the other team. Timeouts always stop runs, because they are magic.

[SD UND]

Just now, HoopsFan03 said:

You are so out of touch with reality it isn't even worth discussing these topics with you. Somebody says something that you don't agree with and all you can come back with is extreme sarcasm and never any valid points to back up your claims. Again, I really respect you having Sather's back no matter the cost. But you're so off base with your defenses that it is ruining any credibility that you once had. 

I guess if I don't have credibility on a fan forum from HoopsFan03, I'll be able to sleep at night.

There is a timeout every 4 minutes of game play- I guess if he would call one between the 16 and 12 minute mark, everything would have been different. Like I said, timeouts are magical and change everything. 

 

Maybe he should have switched jackets at halftime or used a different color marker as well for his whiteboard.

[UND1983]

He did call a timeout around the 'under 8' timeout range after SDSU made a 3 (when he would've gotten a free one at next stoppage)

[Kab]

26 minutes ago, NewUndFan said:

That's exactly what a good coach does.  Calls a timeout when another team is on a run.   The fact that you called them a magical timeout just takes credibility away from you. But I have seen Coach Sather do this many times in the past two years.  We blow large leads and just throw our hands up in the air.   Also the hockey line up changes needs to go!   Stick with 7 or 8 and our starters need to play mass minutes.    We should always have 3 or 4 starters on the court at all times.  

Had a coach that said never let a run get past 10, he would always call time out.  Didn’t always work but at least he tried.

[SD UND]

Just now, UND1983 said:

He did call a timeout around the 'under 8' timeout range after SDSU made a 3 (when he would've gotten a free one at next stoppage)

Not magical enough.. needed to do it at the 10:08 mark.