2023 Football Season

[wheelsup]

50 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

2-2 is okay but 3-3 isn’t? Bunch of random crap here.

I guess I hope UND football is better than a forever 7-4 program; hence, the reason I hope they don’t start 2-2 and pull off a major upset to take the program to the next level. Sorry for wanting and expecting more. 

The difference between 2-2 and 3-3 is that at 3-3 we prob lost to NDSU at home.  Losing to NDSU at home versus SDSU and Boise state on the road are significantly different with respect to the overall direction of the team.

All I’m saying is give this years team a chance before you jump off the bandwagon.  They look to be significantly improved over last year to me and so I have high expectations and even if they start 2-2 they still have a great path to a great season. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

49 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

If they start 2-2, and then finish 9-2 and get a playoff seed, are we all of a sudden accepting mediocrity?

This won’t happen. It did happen in 2016, but that was another textbook choke job playoff performance. If UnD goes 2-2 in 2023 (this season), then 9-2 likely ain’t happening, but crazier things have happened. My simple point is that UND needs to go 3-1 or 4-0 to make this a special season, and not the same ol, same ol. It’s a prediction, sure, but I’m confident in it.

[UND-FB-FAN]

12 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

All I’m saying is give this years team a chance before you jump off the bandwagon.

Oh I’m giving them a chance. We’ll know a lot after the first month is what I’m saying.

[homer]

30 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

This won’t happen. It did happen in 2016, but that was another textbook choke job playoff performance. If UnD goes 2-2 in 2023 (this season), then 9-2 likely ain’t happening, but crazier things have happened. My simple point is that UND needs to go 3-1 or 4-0 to make this a special season, and not the same ol, same ol. It’s a prediction, sure, but I’m confident in it.

Let the team take the field before writing them off. 
 

There are ugly ways to get to 3-1 and a team can look ok getting to 2-2.  It has nothing to do with accepting mediocrity 

[UND-FB-FAN]

27 minutes ago, homer said:

Let the team take the field before writing them off. 

That’s exactly what I’m doing - I’m excited to see how they look. I’m just saying I want to see this program start fast for once and not put themselves behind the 8 ball. Do something that suggests you’re advancing the program, Bubba, and not keeping it status quo. 

[SiouxFan100]

Round and round 

[Sioux94]

Hopefully we can pull off an upset against SDSU, but win or lose.......my expectations are we give them a better game than  #3 Montana State does. 

[F'n Hawks]

2 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

This won’t happen. It did happen in 2016, but that was another textbook choke job playoff performance. If UnD goes 2-2 in 2023 (this season), then 9-2 likely ain’t happening, but crazier things have happened. My simple point is that UND needs to go 3-1 or 4-0 to make this a special season, and not the same ol, same ol. It’s a prediction, sure, but I’m confident in it.

How would your outlook be if they were 4-2 after the first 6 games? Meaning they beat either Boise, SDSU, or NDSU at home.

[Dustin]

I’m going out on a limb and saying we beat both SU’s this year. But we’ll probably stumble in a road game like UNI or USD. 9-2 is achievable, but what really matters is that they get to the playoff quarterfinals at a minimum. 

[nodak651]

@UND-FB-FAN If you were in charge we would be in Missouri State's position.  You lost all credibility imo.  It takes time to build a consistently winning program, year after year.  Read a little about delayed gratification maybe.  UND is one of 11 teams to make the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years and our facilities aren't even built yet.  The program is and will continue to get better.

[gfhockey]

ESPN and fcs couldn’t find a better game then north Alabama and Mercer to start off season wtf

[SIOUXFAN97]

46 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

@UND-FB-FAN If you were in charge we would be in Missouri State's position.  You lost all credibility imo.  It takes time to build a consistently winning program, year after year.  Read a little about delayed gratification maybe.  UND is one of 11 teams to make the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years and our facilities aren't even built yet.  The program is and will continue to get better.

alerus center has been around for over 20 years and pollard a couple.  it's not the facilities holding us back.

[SIOUXFAN97]

26 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

ESPN and fcs couldn’t find a better game then north Alabama and Mercer to start off season wtf

better than navy v the other und......

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

first saturday of college football and this is what they roll out....holy crap

[SiouxHawkGuy]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

first saturday of college football and this is what they roll out....holy crap

Swamp Kings on Netflix 

[shep]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

first saturday of college football and this is what they roll out....holy crap

USC is on later

[F'n Hawks]

28 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Swamp Kings on Netflix 

I was kind of disappointed by it to be honest. There was so much left out.

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

How would your outlook be if they were 4-2 after the first 6 games? Meaning they beat either Boise, SDSU, or NDSU at home.

I think this is most probable, and as such I think 8-3 happens with a home playoff win and second round playoff loss (1-1 in playoffs like spring 2021). Some may call that a good season, but with the amount of seniors on this team, I don’t see how that is true progress. I would call that status quo, and this team/program under Bubba would remain years away from anything close to a championship.

Bottom line, next step for this team is 2 playoff wins, and I think beating Boise or SDSU shows the team is capable of that (both to us as fans but also to the team themselves). 

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 hours ago, Dustin said:

I’m going out on a limb and saying we beat both SU’s this year. But we’ll probably stumble in a road game like UNI or USD. 9-2 is achievable, but what really matters is that they get to the playoff quarterfinals at a minimum. 

I think everyone, myself included, would be very happy with 9-2. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 hour ago, shep said:

USC is on later

yeah....against san jose junior college

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 hours ago, nodak651 said:

@UND-FB-FAN If you were in charge we would be in Missouri State's position.  You lost all credibility imo.  It takes time to build a consistently winning program, year after year.  Read a little about delayed gratification maybe.  UND is one of 11 teams to make the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years and our facilities aren't even built yet.  The program is and will continue to get better.

That is bullsh*t. You don’t get a decade plus to build any program up unless expectations aren’t there. Delayed gratification? Have you even paid attention to this program’s roller-coaster trajectory over the past decade? While Bubba has been babying this thing, NDSU has been feasting; and the monopoly on North Dakota football has barely gone in a positive direction for UND since Bubba’s hire in ‘14. Your argument that UND has better facilities coming is independent of the coaching / recruiting that has been done up to this point. No doubt the recruiting will improve with better facilities, but that doesn’t glorify the so-so results up to this point. I get I’m preaching to the choir of UND faithful, but sometimes you need to wake up and smell the roses to demand better. 
 

My simple demand is UND needs to start winning some big games (in 2023 that would include Boise St., SDSU and NDSU, and of course playoffs), and yet you goons still find a way to get triggered by that.

Lastly, to several of @iramurphy’s points, just to be clear, I don’t expect my comments here to do sh*t; so please don’t misinterpret a little forum chatter/fun and steer this thing into an abyss. 

[shep]

19 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:. No doubt the recruiting will improve with better facilities, but that doesn’t glorify the so-so results up to this point. I get I’m preaching to the choir of UND faithful, but sometimes you need to wake up and smell the roses to demand better. 

A month ago, when you were either having a happy day, or for a moment forgot you hate UND football, you sounded downright optimistic about the recent recruits.  
What happened?

[UND-FB-FAN]

11 minutes ago, shep said:

A month ago, when you were either having a happy day, or for a moment forgot you hate UND football, you sounded downright optimistic about the recent recruits.  
What happened?

Trust me, I don’t hate UND football. That completely idiotic statement doesn’t deserve a response, but as a starter, simply the amount of my comments on this forum is in my defense.

[nodak651]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Trust me, I don’t hate UND football. That completely idiotic statement doesn’t deserve a response, but as a starter, simply the amount of my comments on this forum is in my defense.

"Demanding" something doesn't make it so.  UND isn't the only program that has the same expectations as you.  Yes, they expect to be a championship program.  They continue to build and get better, and if you can't see that, you're blind.  You sound like one of my todlers sometimes.

[Sioux94]

3 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I think this is most probable, and as such I think 8-3 happens with a home playoff win and second round playoff loss (1-1 in playoffs like spring 2021). Some may call that a good season, but with the amount of seniors on this team, I don’t see how that is true progress. I would call that status quo, and this team/program under Bubba would remain years away from anything close to a championship.

Bottom line, next step for this team is 2 playoff wins, and I think beating Boise or SDSU shows the team is capable of that (both to us as fans but also to the team themselves). 

I'd say most of us agree with you, one win and then a playoff loss would be frustrating as hell and would not be progress.  Want more than that.