N of GF Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Some can stop fretting now: Tommy is in this photo. I'd call it slightly more important. https://fightinghawks.com/news/2023/8/23/football-north-dakota-announces-2023-team-captains.aspx Not so fast! This will be the next SS griefer hot take: It's clear from that photo that Tommy thinks he's more important than anyone else because he didn't want his face obscured by wearing a helmet. ...embarrassing...not a good look... 3 Quote
nodak651 Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Some can stop fretting now: Tommy is in this photo. I'd call it slightly more important. https://fightinghawks.com/news/2023/8/23/football-north-dakota-announces-2023-team-captains.aspx Oh, but somebody is standing IN FRONT OF HIM!!!!! What does that mean???? 1 Quote
AJS Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Just watched the video. When Tommy was announced, did his teammates chant Schuuu or did @SIOUXFAN97 actually hear one player say boo? Controversy? 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 How can Tommy be a captain and not be on the Fall poster? Why would we have him captain a team he won't be throwing for when Jerry K. starts taking the #1 reps next week. I don't understand this move by Bubba and Company! (sense the sarcasm before you respond) 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, N of GF said: Not so fast! This will be the next SS griefer hot take: It's clear from that photo that Tommy thinks he's more important than anyone else because he didn't want his face obscured by wearing a helmet. ...embarrassing...not a good look... That and he is standing in the middle. What a showboat! Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 6 hours ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said: If a chihuahua wins games, ill gladly have a chihuahua at QB rather than a Rottweiler that throws interceptions. UND’s chihuahua hasn’t won any big games though. 1-2 in playoffs? Hopefully 2023 changes that record. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 8 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: It ain't the size of the dog in the fight ... when in the context of high snaps, which my post was based on in response to @Teeder11, then yes, actual size helps 1 Quote
SiouxDini Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 11:43 AM, nodak651 said: Their sports coverage is the only reason I subscribe to the paper and I appreciate Tom as well. If they just randomly stop covering stuff, it makes it harder to justify the subscription. It's pretty crazy that the Forum doesn't have an FCS guy that covers UND and NDSU and the FCS in general, neutrally. The Fargo guys are homers and heavily biased towards NDSU and against UND, and Tom isn't a full time beat reporter. They do a great job with The Rink Live, where they cover many programs neutrally. Just interesting that the coverage for Football isn't remotely similar. While I'm complaining, this annoys me (not an option for UND Athletics as a whole): Again, I love Tom's coverage too, I just wish there was more. I'd guess they have him doing all kinds of things, and we know he grossly under paid. The above options on the website are a slap in the face to all other UND sports. Annoys me too... 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 11:43 AM, nodak651 said: Their sports coverage is the only reason I subscribe to the paper and I appreciate Tom as well. If they just randomly stop covering stuff, it makes it harder to justify the subscription. It's pretty crazy that the Forum doesn't have an FCS guy that covers UND and NDSU and the FCS in general, neutrally. The Fargo guys are homers and heavily biased towards NDSU and against UND, and Tom isn't a full time beat reporter. They do a great job with The Rink Live, where they cover many programs neutrally. Just interesting that the coverage for Football isn't remotely similar. While I'm complaining, this annoys me (not an option for UND Athletics as a whole): Same sh*t, different day (post) 1 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 4 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: UND’s chihuahua hasn’t won any big games though. 1-2 in playoffs? Hopefully 2023 changes that record. I agree, have to win in playoffs. To be fair, the first half against Weber State might have been the worst half I have ever seen from a UND defense. Even if the defense is just average this year, I think it will be a great season. (Hilarious that we now say we have this good and creative offense with a questionable defense. Who would have guessed that under Bubba?) 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 7 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: UND’s chihuahua hasn’t won any big games though. 1-2 in playoffs? Hopefully 2023 changes that record. Maybe true, but c'mon now ... our D was absolutely brutal against Weber. That's not ALL on Tommy. Sure, you'd like to see him hit some deep ball and extend some more drives in big games, but it can hardly all be on him. Lets look at our games against the defending national champs. We put up 35 points and started hot. Defense gave up 49. There wasn't a singular problem there. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, F'n Hawks said: I agree, have to win in playoffs. To be fair, the first half against Weber State might have been the worst half I have ever seen from a UND defense. Even if the defense is just average this year, I think it will be a great season. (Hilarious that we now say we have this good and creative offense with a questionable defense. Who would have guessed that under Bubba?) Bubba is a generation removed from being successful. It’s time for him to take the next step in his life and hand Danny the keys. The vibe has never been right in big games under his watch, but he’ll always be a UND guy, and that’s worth something. He’s just not a championship leader. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 7 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: Maybe true, but c'mon now ... our D was absolutely brutal against Weber. That's not ALL on Tommy. Sure, you'd like to see him hit some deep ball and extend some more drives in big games, but it can hardly all be on him. Lets look at our games against the defending national champs. We put up 35 points and started hot. Defense gave up 49. There wasn't a singular problem there. Against NDSU, especially in 2021 with him getting all the defensive help he needed, what happened? I’m sorry - you either have it or you don’t. Tommy has been great, but let’s not act like he’s a championship QB (…yet). Quote
Popular Post siouxfan512 Posted August 24, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Against NDSU, especially in 2021 with him getting all the defensive help he needed, what happened? I’m sorry - you either have it or you don’t. Tommy has been great, but let’s not act like he’s a championship QB (…yet). First, you're picking one game, and yes, he did get help. Not saying Tommy couldn't do more in certain situations, but also not going to lay 100% of the blame at his feet either. a tight game against NDSU is what we should want, especially given that they won it all that year. One person does not win or lose a game. That was also the game where the coaches decided to go for it on 4th on the wrong side of the field and spot NDSU points. If that doesn't have it, maybe that's a W for Tommy even without doing much different. Now if I recall Tommy also had a bad int in that game in the red zone ... can't have those, but they do happen to all QBs. Again, not saying Tommy can't do more (everyone can) but laying the blame completely at one person's feet is ridiculous. It's like blaming a pitcher for the team's bad season ... he could probably have helped more in some spots, and he probably could have gotten more support in some spots. I'd rather look at the bulk of Tommy's work over his career at UND and say he has done more than any other QB we have had in a long time. We have complained for years about getting someone better, and we should always be trying to recruit better, but let's at least acknowledge the improvements that we have seen and made. Second, your post was referencing playoffs, so that was what I was originally answering to: -Destroyed #12 Missouri State in the first round -Lost to #1 JMU in the second round on the road (would have been great to win, but with where the program was at this was not the worst loss either. I'd have loved to see them win it, but as a team we weren't there. Any I don't remember enough of the game, maybe Tommy could have done more, but he was also a young QB at the time. -Lost to #9 Weber in the first round on the road. Game should have been at home but whatever. Tommy threw 3 TDs and our offense put up 31 points on the road in the playoffs. Our D blew this one, plain and simple. I've expected Tommy to get better each year he has been on campus. He isn't a Wentz or a Lance from an FCS QB standpoint, but he has consistently improved and has helped this program become more competitive in his time here. Put any of UND's previous QB's into his place over the past several years and I doubt you have the same level of success. Preseason accolades don't mean a ton, but they do show that other people recognize the kid's talent. I don't think anyone is saying Tommy is a championship QB (yet), but neither is/was Theo Day, Case Cookus, Chris Streveler or any number of QBs over the years, but they were damn good. I'll get off my soap box, but it sounds like you're just griping because we haven't won a championship yet and you want to blame someone. 1 4 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: a tight game against NDSU is what we should want Nah, I’d like to see UND win by 50 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: I'll get off my soap box, but it sounds like you're just griping because we haven't won a championship yet and you want to blame someone. Haven’t won a championship? How about start by just winning some playoff games. UND and Bubba are 1-4 in the playoffs … Choke job U under Bubba’s watch I’m afraid … Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Nah, I’d like to see UND win by 50 Fair, I think we'd all like to see it, but also not realistic. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Haven’t won a championship? How about start by just winning some playoff games. UND and Bubba are 1-4 in the playoffs … Choke job U under Bubba’s watch I’m afraid … Wait, you went from saying it was all Tommy to also blaming Bubba? Isn't that just reiterating my point that you can't blame losses 100% on a single person? Quote
Popular Post SiouxBoys Posted August 24, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 24, 2023 Jesus, give it a rest. 9 3 Quote
Goon Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Haven’t won a championship? How about start by just winning some playoff games. UND and Bubba are 1-4 in the playoffs … Choke job U under Bubba’s watch I’m afraid … You seem to be in a great mood today. 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Drake game can't get here soon enough. Heck the 360 guys pregrame podcast can't get here soon enough. So ready for football! 1 Quote
Sioux94 Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said: Drake game can't get here soon enough. Heck the 360 guys pregrame podcast can't get here soon enough. So ready for football! Yes....only a week away now from pregame podcast....always look forward to that each week. Game week is almost here thank God! 1 Quote
shep Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 LOVE that gameday is coming and not just for the game, but the opportunity to get out there and Tailgate! 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: Fair, I think we'd all like to see it, but also not realistic. All these low expectation caps on what UND can and can’t do is ridiculous … sure 50 points is hyperbole, but lowering expectations year after year is b*llshit … win by a couple scores and make it the f*ckin goal 1 Quote
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