Jerseys

[Frozen4sioux]

24 minutes ago, ChrisUND1 said:

Might look a little wonky, but I’d take anything!  I think a diagonal Hawks would look great on there if they didn’t want to put the logo.   At some point, I’d love to see a state of ND outline of some sort. Put it on the shoulders or helmet.  Show some state pride, not just UND-Grand Forks hockey program pride.  

There's hockey outside of Grand Forks?

[tnt]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

It's been on both sides for at least two if not three seasons.
It started when they went to black-on-green instead of green-on-green stickers. 

 

Still looking for the words "Fighting Hawks" on a hockey jersey worn by Berry's team.

 

Did you show me the Sioux logo and name on football helmets and jerseys back in that era?  

[tnt]

2 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

Nice try.  How many NFL and college football jerseys have the school primary logo front and center on the chest of the jersey?  The short answer is “none,” because there’s a number there.  It’s on the UND helmet because that’s where the primarily logo is typically placed for a football team.  

Don’t remember the Sioux logo on the side of the football helmets back when that was the nickname, but now we need to have rules where the logo is or isn’t placed?

[SiouxHawkGuy]

13 minutes ago, tnt said:

Did you show me the Sioux logo and name on football helmets and jerseys back in that era?  

Logo on jersey. Sioux on front of helmet

[tnt]

6 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Logo on jersey. Sioux on front of helmet

…and you’re complaining about the Hawk logo on the hockey uniforms?  That is probably 20 times the size as that.  Almost like they did the same you are accusing of the hockey program.

[Frozen4sioux]

3 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Logo on jersey. Sioux on front of helmet

The Brien Logo was used appropriately on the jersey...

Real question... why was Football so stubborn in refusing to use the official logo of athletics on their helmet...

It's like the program was trying to create their own alternative identity.

[MafiaMan]

13 minutes ago, tnt said:

Don’t remember the Sioux logo on the side of the football helmets back when that was the nickname, but now we need to have rules where the logo is or isn’t placed?

Because coach and eventual AD Roger Thomas wasn’t a fan of it and wanted its use minimized.  UND’s use of the interlocking ND on the helmets dates back long before your time - and mine.  

[Blackheart]

7 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Because coach and eventual AD Roger Thomas wasn’t a fan of it and wanted its use minimized.  UND’s use of the interlocking ND on the helmets dates back long before your time - and mine.  

That’s a long time.

[MafiaMan]

15 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

That’s a long time.

Shut your pie-hole.

[MafiaMan]

33 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

I own both of those authentic jerseys…but I took a seam ripper to the Sioux logos and replaced them with Hawks patches. 

[Blackheart]

8 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Shut your pie-hole.

My bad…all us UND guys from the 80s are eternally young.

[The Sicatoka]

50 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Real question... why was Football so stubborn in refusing to use the official logo of athletics on their helmet...

It's like the program was trying to create their own alternative identity.

I do believe the interlocked ND (in one font or another) was an official logo until it replaced with the "ND hawk". 

[Frozen4sioux]

26 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

I do believe the interlocked ND (in one font or another) was an official logo until it replaced with the "ND hawk". 

Not really sure you want to wade into the muddied water of trade mark on the Notre Dame interlocking UND

Or the Blackhawk...

It safe to say  that UND has a bit of troubled history of playing fast and loose with logos and trademarks and... 

 

[Blackheart]

7 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

It safe to say  that UND has a bit of troubled history of playing fast and loose with logos and trademarks and... 

 

It’s a lot of fun though, right?

[The Sicatoka]

11 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Not really sure you want to wade into the muddied water of trade mark on the Notre Dame interlocking UND

Or the Blackhawk...

It safe to say  that UND has a bit of troubled history of playing fast and loose with logos and trademarks and... 

 

Didn't say we owned it, just used it. (Pattern?) 

UND claimed first use of the interlock but "Our Lady" got the first TM. Sounds vaguely familiar given the UND release tonight ... 

History on this topic ain't great for UND. Only thing they've ever had unique and owned by TM is ... Fighting Hawks. < shrug > 

[Frozen4sioux]

7 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Didn't say we owned it, just used it. (Pattern?) 

UND claimed first use of the interlock but "Our Lady" got the first TM. Sounds vaguely familiar given the UND release tonight ... 

History on this topic ain't great for UND. Only thing they've ever had unique and owned by TM is ... Fighting Hawks. < shrug > 

No both the Brien logo and the geometric where very clear cut TM

The alternate interlocking UND was also solidly owned and trademarked

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

No both the Brien logo and the geometric where very clear cut TM

The alternate interlocking UND was also solidly owned and trademarked

I stand corrected. 

[Cratter]

On 11/29/2022 at 11:05 AM, UNDBIZ said:

I hope UND has the rights to NODAK and not some bad actor.

Your wish was granted! 

[Green Banner]

Heard the team will be debuting new green Nodak sweaters tonight

[MafiaMan]

50 minutes ago, Green Banner said:

Heard the team will be debuting new green Nodak sweaters tonight

[siouxkid12]

15 hours ago, Benny Baker said:

The full "Fighting Sioux" name never made it on a hockey jersey either.  Most seasons the word "Sioux" was also absent.  And truthfully, from 1964-1993,* the hockey team was the only athletic program to wear the "Blackhawk" logo whereas every other program was using the interlocking ND and Geometric logo.

Seems to me that there's always been a "hockey only identity" but its only recently that a certain subset of folks have chosen to complain about it.

*Correction, if I recall, we had home whites for a few years in the 70s with the ND, but I still stand by the point.

Incorrect. The football team had the blackhawk logo on the sleeves of their football jerseys for some time.

[siouxkid12]

13 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

I own both of those authentic jerseys…but I took a seam ripper to the Sioux logos and replaced them with Hawks patches. 

You sure showed them!

[Benny Baker]

1 hour ago, siouxkid12 said:

Incorrect. The football team had the blackhawk logo on the sleeves of their football jerseys for some time.

What years?

[The Sicatoka]

9 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

What years?

I don't see anything in here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/undsports.com/documents/2022/8/11/2022_UND_FB_Media_Guide_for_Web.pdf 

I do find the interlock on shoulders (p138). 

[siouxkid12]

16 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

What years?