Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: https://apple.news/A2pcWeeA0RBK6Aaq93FVdlg More on the smithfield debacle. Noem knew about the outbreak for a month and instead of acting she went on Fox News bragging about how well South Dakota was handling the pandemic. Even after she ordered them to close they were allowed to stay open and the company offered bonuses for employees to show up. So some journalist in London has the inside scoop on what's happening in Sioux Falls SD?? The BBC can't even report accurately what Mehgan is wearing on her walk through the Canadian woods on a daily basis. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Jacksonville (FL) Beaches opened up to cheers and hundreds of beach goers.... meanwhile in ND local police in unmarked cars are in surveillance of city parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Redneksioux said: I saw a car driving 75 down i29 near grand forks today. Middle aged woman. Luckily for the driver she wasn’t in Minnesota on hwy 220 or she’d get a hefty speeding ticket. Wow. I had no idea it was that bad in Minnesota that they started to give people tickets for driving the speed limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So some journalist in London has the inside scoop on what's happening in Sioux Falls SD?? The BBC can't even report accurately what Mehgan is wearing on her walk through the Canadian woods on a daily basis. geez next thing you know they will be saying that Pace picante sauce is made in New York! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Jacksonville (FL) Beaches opened up to cheers and hundreds of beach goers... Roadtrip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, wasmania said: geez next thing you know they will be saying that Pace picante sauce is made in New York! Didn't Cuomo in consultation with Greta ban all foods in NY that causes flatulence as part of his Green New Deal thinking??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Didn't Cuomo in consultation with Greta ban all foods in NY that causes flatulence as part of his Green New Deal thinking??? Get with the times, Oxbow6...banning straws and plastic grocery bags is sooooo 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: A group of Stanford led researchers conducting early antibody testing in the SF/Bay area is finding the infectious rate could be as much as 85 times higher than reported. Not sure if this "science" puts a chink in the armor of the "we are all safer at home until July 4, 2022" crowd and/or the actual fatality rate when it's all said and done. 18 minutes ago, wasmania said: geez next thing you know they will be saying that Pace picante sauce is made in New York! You're our resident NASA math guru. I'd like you to put down your breakfast burrito and comment on what if our current data is even off by 50 times the reported infectious rate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: A group of Stanford led researchers conducting early antibody testing in the SF/Bay area is finding the infectious rate could be as much as 85 times higher than reported. Not sure if this "science" puts a chink in the armor of the "we are all safer at home until July 4, 2022" crowd and/or the actual fatality rate when it's all said and done. This is good news if these tests are eventually determined to be accurate and reliable. Similar tests and testing two months ago would have been priceless, and likely had major impact on reactions. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I know this is useless but it would be nice if we could move away from the snarky political comments and just share information and facts. By now we know what side of the political spectrum many of us fall on and thus the related opinions on the situation and which politicians individuals like or dislike. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: You're our resident NASA math guru. I'd like you to put down your breakfast burrito and comment on what if our current data is even off by 50 times the reported infectious rate. you mean implications for policy? or just want me to weigh on how to torture the scientists who are now learning more about the disease and reporting it honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MafiaMan Posted April 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, CMSioux said: It seems any info that is more than one sentence or not a Fox talking point is above many. Three hours later... 8 minutes ago, CMSioux said: I know this is useless but it would be nice if we could move away from the snarky political comments and just share information and facts. By now we know what side of the political spectrum many of us fall on and thus the related opinions on the situation and which politicians individuals like or dislike. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Three hours later... he did use the inclusive 'we'. perhaps this poster has a soul that has not been poisoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Good video to watch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, wasmania said: he did use the inclusive 'we'. perhaps this poster has a soul that has not been poisoned Probably too late for me. My heart is black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, wasmania said: you mean implications for policy? or just want me to weigh on how to torture the scientists who are now learning more about the disease and reporting it honestly? Both questions....specifically first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Oxbow6 said: Both questions....specifically first one. many more infected than originally expected probably means that asymptomatic carriers are everywhere and will be killing machines of the infirm and elderly if not managed to avoid contact. Fewer deaths is not that meaningful expressed as a percentage of cases. Much better if it were fewer in absolute terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, wasmania said: many more infected than originally expected probably means that asymptomatic carriers are everywhere and will be killing machines of the infirm and elderly if not managed to avoid contact. Fewer deaths is not that meaningful expressed as a percentage of cases. Much better if it were fewer in absolute terms. So how do we separate the healthy mystery killers from the vulnerable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, UND1983 said: So how do we separate the healthy mystery killers from the vulnerable? testing? massive testing? if you wouldnt mind the inconvenience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, wasmania said: many more infected than originally expected probably means that asymptomatic carriers are everywhere and will be killing machines of the infirm and elderly if not managed to avoid contact. Fewer deaths is not that meaningful expressed as a percentage of cases. Much better if it were fewer in absolute terms. "Killing machines".....easy there Cooper Anderson. So in your wise opinion lockdown everyone until when? Or comes to grips that life needs to start being lived and those who are at risk need to shelter? ....and I'm talking ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 So if the believed infectious rate numbers are possibly off by 5000%, what good are the models? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, wasmania said: testing? massive testing? if you wouldnt mind the inconvenience The antibody testing or whatever they call it....or just the general test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 What will be interesting to see once these antibody tests come out in full force (provided they are accurate of course), just how much of the population had this and didn't know it. Both me and my fiancé discussed this last night on one of our walks and given our working environments, we would both be curious to know... did we get this? Now the million dollar question to all this... and this hasn't been proven yet... how long do these antibodies last for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, UND1983 said: The antibody testing or whatever they call it....or just the general test? I don't want to speak on the posters behalf, but my assumption would be both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: So in your wise opinion lockdown everyone until when? Or comes to grips that life needs to start being lived and those who are at risk need to shelter? ....and I'm talking ND. given the many variables in flux, like availability of robust tests, changes to protocols at events and transportation to accomodate the test process and fairly adjudicate decisions on who is safe and who is not, changes to configurations of meeting places etc. your question is not answerable at this early time without a huge confidence interval around any forecast for when and how much. And this board by and large does not tolerate such things as large confidence intervals. they interpret this as systemic failure in epidemiology and partisan undermining of their preferred despot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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