Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted March 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, WildcatGuest said: A few school cultural questions: Who is your arch rival? I notice a sudden upswing the past few years in all the Dakota schools regarding basketball. Do you normally refer to yourselves as the Fighting Hawks? Other fans tend to refer to us as Zona, which is fine and liked, but the vast majority of fans find it awkward to call ourselves Zona. Thanks for the welcome. I normally am not a "opposing board visitor" except during tourney time. I notice non-conf visitors on boards are always greeted warmly, but I am likely to get glib comments and slights on another Pac-12 board. North Dakota state university would be our arch rival. Ndsu and sdsu both moved up to D1 around 5 years before UND and UND just completed its transition to D1 in 2012. That's probably why you didn't hear much about the Dakota schools prior to the past several years. They're both in the Summit Conference while UND is in the Big Sky, where we'd probably claim Weber St and Montana as rivals, though they may not claim us. We'll be joining the other Dakota's in the Summit beginning with the 2018-19 season. As for nicknames, UND was one of the schools that got hammered by the ncaa around a decade ago for having a Native American nickname, the Fighting Sioux. We fought the ncaa for several years and eventually conceded defeat in 2012, as we were having issues in our transition to D1 due to the nickname saga. The Fighting Hawks name was selected a little over a year ago and is slowly gaining steam, though the vast majority of the fan base still prefers Sioux. UND, North Dakota, Nodak, Fighting Sioux, and Fighting Hawks are all acceptable, though some will throw a tantrum if you refer to us as Fighting Hawks. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, WildcatGuest said: Yeah I figure the realistic strategy for the Hawks would be for the guards to hit the three and slash to the hoop, while limiting touches for the Cats down low. We play your Big Sky mates NAU every other year or so. The times they've come close is with a slow, guard dominated, low possession game, shooting 3s and running a zone. But the fast tempo is what both schools seem to want. Many programs that don't normally run zones have tried it. No matter level of opponent, it usually causes about 4-5 plays of bricks and confusion for the Cats, before adjustments happen. We have no idea why the zone confuses even temporarily. The guard play could be a draw, but unless fouls are called oddly, the bigs will be UND's critical weakness I don't think they'll be overcoming, unless Bernstine and Avants really come of age. Players like Shanks are usually eaten alive, and as stated more of a liability as a foul magnet. Defensively, if you haven't seen Arizona play much, there is really no single defensive super stopper (Kadeem Allen at 2 is the closest). Taken individually the front line isn't that dominant defensively, but the packline defense is very much a system and team effort. A few school cultural questions: Who is your arch rival? I notice a sudden upswing the past few years in all the Dakota schools regarding basketball. Do you normally refer to yourselves as the Fighting Hawks? Other fans tend to refer to us as Zona, which is fine and liked, but the vast majority of our own find it awkward to call ourselves Zona. Thanks for the welcome. I normally am not a "opposing board visitor" except during tourney time. I notice non-conf visitors on boards are always greeted warmly, but I am likely to get glib comments and slights on another Pac-12 board. Avants is a very high motor hard working undersized post but can barley jump over a phone book. Shanks' last name might as well be his nickname. Bernstein is a smooth point forward type who has an ok mid-range game and a really good handle. We are very vulnerable to teams with quality size down low. Our guards can ball with the best of them. Like others have said, if they're knocking down 3s we can stay with anyone but if you guys can get the big fellas rolling we are screwed. I'm very excited for this game as it's a long time in the making but the two 7 footers you guys have seem to be exactly what we don't need. Hopefully we can catch you guys on an off night and make it interesting. If we can somehow get the big boys in foul trouble it could make it a great game but I won't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 9 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: North Dakota state university would be our arch rival. Ndsu and sdsu both moved up to D1 around 5 years before UND and UND just completed its transition to D1 in 2012. That's probably why you didn't hear much about the Dakota schools prior to the past several years. They're both in the Summit Conference while UND is in the Big Sky, where we'd probably claim Weber St and Montana as rivals, though they may not claim us. We'll be joining the other Dakota's in the Summit beginning with the 2018-19 season. As for nicknames, UND was one of the schools that got hammered by the ncaa around a decade ago for having a Native American nickname, the Fighting Sioux. We fought the ncaa for several years and eventually conceded defeat in 2012, as we were having issues in our transition to D1 due to the nickname saga. The Fighting Hawks name was selected a little over a year ago and is slowly gaining steam, though the vast majority of the fan base still prefers Sioux. UND, North Dakota, Nodak, Fighting Sioux, and Fighting Hawks are all acceptable, though some will throw a tantrum if you refer to us as Fighting Hawks. Wow. you just summed up 80% of the posts on this site in the past 10 years in 1 post. Impressive!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 ESPN Insider Best and Worst case scenero's..... 15. North Dakota Best case: Brian Jones' squad keeps the game against Arizona within 15 points.Worst case: The Wildcats' Allonzo Trier and Lauri Markkanen flow early with an inside-outside attack that the Fighting Hawks can't handle 2. Arizona Best case: More confetti after the Wildcats win the national championship.Worst case: Freshman forward Lauri Markkanen's slump from the 3-point line returns as Arizona loses in the Sweet 16 to a squad with the size and athleticism on the perimeter to disrupt the Wildcats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 This is going to be awesome to watch tomorrow night! Pumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxfan512 Posted March 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, hoops44 said: ESPN Insider Best and Worst case scenero's..... 15. North Dakota Best case: Brian Jones' squad keeps the game against Arizona within 15 points.Worst case: The Wildcats' Allonzo Trier and Lauri Markkanen flow early with an inside-outside attack that the Fighting Hawks can't handle 2. Arizona Best case: More confetti after the Wildcats win the national championship.Worst case: Freshman forward Lauri Markkanen's slump from the 3-point line returns as Arizona loses in the Sweet 16 to a squad with the size and athleticism on the perimeter to disrupt the Wildcats. I'll give my own 2 cents. 15: North Dakota Best Case: UND wins and shocks the damn world. Worst Case: UND just got a crap ton a publicity and brand recognition that we didn't have before this week. I'll take it! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Any place where all the UND fans are going to watch in Minneapolis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Anyone do online sports betting? I don't but if the odds of us winning are 5000/1 I want to throw $20 down. I have spent $20 in way dumber ways so I figure why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfantastic Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 15 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Avants is a very high motor hard working undersized post but can barley jump over a phone book. Shanks' last name might as well be his nickname. Bernstein is a smooth point forward type who has an ok mid-range game and a really good handle. We are very vulnerable to teams with quality size down low. Our guards can ball with the best of them. Like others have said, if they're knocking down 3s we can stay with anyone but if you guys can get the big fellas rolling we are screwed. I'm very excited for this game as it's a long time in the making but the two 7 footers you guys have seem to be exactly what we don't need. Hopefully we can catch you guys on an off night and make it interesting. If we can somehow get the big boys in foul trouble it could make it a great game but I won't hold my breath. Just a simple question. If Avants can barley jump over a phone book why do the coach's have him take the opening tip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDRPinLV Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Couple of good articles on North Dakota and Arizona basketball connections: From the Tucson newspaper, Arizona Daily Star: http://tucson.com/sports/greghansen/greg-hansen-ncaa-tourney-memories-lead-me-back-to-lute/article_bebdf059-1224-5c7b-8d47-0fc8bb7dfece.html From the Grand Forks Herald: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4234517-legendary-coach-lute-olson-und-arizona-thats-going-back-time-me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, siouxfantastic said: Just a simple question. If Avants can barley jump over a phone book why do the coach's have him take the opening tip? Avants has ok hops for 6'6'' 230lb big sky kid...jumps better than he did last season....I notice seales got the tip in an ot. jump ball...he gets up quick with excellent timing...Bernstine does not do jump balls I guess Avants is better than him. I would try letting Shanks jump and then pull him ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Hardcore Hawk said: Just drove by the Alerus, had to pull over to snap a picture Hmmmmm - they might need to change the lettering now to match the green on the helmet......but the helmet looks very good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Hawk Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hambone said: Hmmmmm - they might need to change the lettering now to match the green on the helmet......but the helmet looks very good! whoops, threw this picture in to the wrong thread... Moved it to the correct one now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2TRU4U Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, UNDColorado said: Anyone do online sports betting? I don't but if the odds of us winning are 5000/1 I want to throw $20 down. I have spent $20 in way dumber ways so I figure why not. I use oddsmaker.ag, they have UND... odds of winning the championship: 1 to 1000 (meaning bet $1 to win $1000) odds of winning the regional: 1 to 500 odds of winning vs. Arizona: 11 to 10 with the line at +17pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, 2TRU4U said: I use oddsmaker.ag, they have UND... odds of winning the championship: 1 to 1000 (meaning bet $1 to win $1000) odds of winning the regional: 1 to 500 odds of winning vs. Arizona: 11 to 10 with the line at +17pts. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, siouxfantastic said: Just a simple question. If Avants can barley jump over a phone book why do the coach's have him take the opening tip? Taking the tip is more about timing. The guys can barely dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Can get 10,000 to 1 at 5dimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 49 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Taking the tip is more about timing. The guys can barely dunk. I think you're ripping on his jumping ability a little much. Does fine dunking but isn't going to wow anyone with his athleticism. If you're going to talk about somebody that can barely dunk, you could look at our 7 footer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 anybody who has actually watched UND basketball would have seen Avants thrown down 2 hand slams...others just get their jollys off a fake posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, hoops44 said: anybody who has actually watched UND basketball would have seen Avants thrown down 2 hand slams...others just get their jollys off a fake posts Avants jumps like a typical white boy. That is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Avants jumps like a typical white boy. That is a fact. he dunks with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Hawk Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Avants jumps like a typical white boy. That is a fact. 3 minutes ago, hoops44 said: he dunks with ease And the feud continues.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On March 12, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Shawn-O said: Let's hope the guys are looking past UA on their way to the sweet 16. True or False: Sweet 16 would be the biggest story in ND athletics history. I'd say true. Sorry UND hockey and NDSU football. Not even close. Would need to win it. Beating Arizona would be biggest upset in ND athletics history but not biggest story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Without a doubt if UND made the Sweet 16 it'd be the biggest story in North Dakota athletics history. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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