The Sicatoka Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 10 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Quantity does not always equate to quality. To dismiss the QB position as an important top 3 position for UND is ignorant to what that position means to all levels of football. It is often labeled the most important position in sports for a reason. I'm not saying QB is not important in the larger picture. However, what I am saying is right now on UND's roster it's not my greatest concern. PS - Martin Brodeur, Patrick Roy, and Ed Belfour would like to schedule a conference call with you later today. Quote
forksandspoons Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 Someone mentioned a week or two ago UND is close to signing an FBS DB. Is this still in the works or did nothing come of it? Quote
ND1 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, forksandspoons said: Someone mentioned a week or two ago UND is close to signing an FBS DB. Is this still in the works or did nothing come of it? Must have fallen thru, otherwise we should have heard by now. Quote
UND1983 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, ND1 said: Must have fallen thru, otherwise we should have heard by now. Not really. Many transfers wait until the semester is over to announce. They need to get their grades first and such. Quote
ND1 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 It was between us and a couple other FCS schools Quote
UND1983 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 42 minutes ago, ND1 said: It was between us and a couple other FCS schools Get used to it. We are going to be "in the running" for a lot of guys and not get them. Quote
Sioux94 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Get used to it. We are going to be "in the running" for a lot of guys and not get them. As is almost every other school. If a guy has 4 offers......that means he doesn't choose 3 of them. Can't expect every guy we want to come on board. Hopefully if we bounce back and have a couple of successful years that will increase the likely hood that they do still choose us, but even then sometimes they won't. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: As is almost every other school. If a guy has 4 offers......that means he doesn't choose 3 of them. Can't expect every guy we want to come on board. Hopefully if we bounce back and have a couple of successful years that will increase the likely hood that they do still choose us, but even then sometimes they won't. I’m more concerned with our HS recruiting than our FBS dropdown recruiting right now 1 Quote
UND-1 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: I’m more concerned with our HS recruiting than our FBS dropdown recruiting right now Especially the OL. They have done average work there. Quote
Hawkster Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: I’m more concerned with our HS recruiting than our FBS dropdown recruiting right now +1. Bubba just doesn't seem to get the right guys out of HS. Muss offered everyone who came along and yet made it work. Bubba's problem mystifies me. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TRex said: +1. Bubba just doesn't seem to get the right guys out of HS. Muss offered everyone who came along and yet made it work. Bubba's problem mystifies me. Did you watch any of Mussman's teams? If he made it work he would still be the UND coach. Quote
Hawkster Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: Did you watch any of Mussman's teams? If he made it work he would still be the UND coach. Muss couldn't coach and everyone knew it, but he did find the talent somehow. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Weren't we all complaining about Muss's lack of OL recruiting and development the past 8 years? Quote
UND1983 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Weren't we all complaining about Muss's lack of OL recruiting and development the past 8 years? Sounds like the OL has been an ongoing problem for awhile now. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Offensive line play is an issue around the country, hence the large scale changes in offensive style of play that takes pressure off the play up front (up-tempo spread option offenses). The programs that still run a downhill physical style of play need good offensive linemen, but those programs are becoming more and more scarce. Some of the few remaining include Alabama, Wisconsin, and Michigan. At the FCS level, NDSU is really one of the only programs that comes to mind, and they do it so well no one can counter it. 1 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Offensive line play is an issue around the country, ... It's the same-thing-only-different as trying to find "bigs" in hoops. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: Weren't we all complaining about Muss's lack of OL recruiting and development the past 8 years? We had some pretty good hogs under Mussman. The lack of an attempt at a run game allowed teams to just pin their ears back though. Guys like Emmet Lynch come to mind as the type we need. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Offensive line play is an issue around the country, hence the large scale changes in offensive style of play that takes pressure off the play up front (up-tempo spread option offenses). The programs that still run a downhill physical style of play need good offensive linemen, but those programs are becoming more and more scarce. Some of the few remaining include Alabama, Wisconsin, and Michigan. At the FCS level, NDSU is really one of the only programs that comes to mind, and they do it so well no one can counter it. There are plenty of hogs in this part of the country. We just need to do a better job of getting them and holding on to them. The class with Grady Williams and Merz was dripping with potential on the OL and none of them worked out. We need Mortel and co to really step up. 1 Quote
iramurphy Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 16 hours ago, TRex said: +1. Bubba just doesn't seem to get the right guys out of HS. Muss offered everyone who came along and yet made it work. Bubba's problem mystifies me. Muss didn't offer Thielen. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 8 hours ago, iramurphy said: Muss didn't offer Thielen. Mankato offered him a bag of potato chips. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 9 hours ago, iramurphy said: Muss didn't offer Thielen. Brian Jones told Doug McDermott he wasn’t a D1 player Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 10 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Mankato offered him a bag of potato chips. They were ripple ... Quote
UND Fan Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 12 hours ago, sioux24/7 said: Brian Jones told Doug McDermott he wasn’t a D1 player Source? Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 11:10 AM, geaux_sioux said: There are plenty of hogs in this part of the country. We just need to do a better job of getting them and holding on to them. The class with Grady Williams and Merz was dripping with potential on the OL and none of them worked out. We need Mortel and co to really step up. I agree that this part of the country does have good offensive linemen; problem is there aren't enough for all programs. Obviously only so many are high-end DI players. UND has lost too many offensive linemen "with potential" for me to think that it is just bad luck. UND has failed to find good players and develop them. NDSU, on the other hand, has taken backyard 9 man players and turned them into all-conference linemen. Quote
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