Faison Press Conference 4PM

[UNDvince97-01]

3 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

I cannot get over the fact that the Women's Hockey budget is bigger than Men's Basketball.  I wonder if there is another D1 Athletic Department in the country that does that?  

Ask Daniella Irle and Sue Jeno...

I'm sure they will have ALL your answers.

[SiouxVolley]

1 hour ago, UND-1 said:

I cannot get over the fact that the Women's Hockey budget is bigger than Men's Basketball.  I wonder if there is another D1 Athletic Department in the country that does that?  

That's pretty easy.  18 schollies vs 13 schollies.  Idalski makes more than Jones.  Men buckets get paid for guarantee games.  Whockey gets nothing.

BU, Quinn, UNH and Maine are probably similar.

Womens rowing doesn't add to a FBS school, but they have to do it.  Boat houses are expensive and those teams are massive.  SDSU has equestrian which is a money pit.

[northernraider]

2 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

That's pretty easy.  18 schollies vs 13 schollies.  Idalski makes more than Jones.  Men buckets get paid for guarantee games.  Whockey gets nothing.

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I'm sure equipment and facility cost also play a part

[SiouxVolley]

1 minute ago, northernraider said:

I'm sure equipment and facility cost also play a part

Most of basketball budget are coaches pay everywhere else.  We get by incredibly cheap with Jones.

[UND-1]

16 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

That's pretty easy.  18 schollies vs 13 schollies.  Idalski makes more than Jones.  Men buckets get paid for guarantee games.  Whockey gets nothing.

Plus, what is the cost of a full schollie for a student-athlete from Europe?

[northernraider]

5 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

Plus, what is the cost of a full schollie for a student-athlete from Europe?

Likely the same as a domestic one. The cost of a student is fixed, no matter from North Dakota, other states, or another country.  The only difference is, ND kids get a discounted rate instead of the full cost required. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, UND-1 said:

I cannot get over the fact that the Women's Hockey budget is bigger than Men's Basketball.  I wonder if there is another D1 Athletic Department in the country that does that?  

Extremely damaging to UND athletics as a whole; successful athletic departments around the country do not prioritize like that. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

29 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

That's pretty easy.  18 schollies vs 13 schollies.  Idalski makes more than Jones.  Men buckets get paid for guarantee games.  Whockey gets nothing.

BU, Quinn, UNH and Maine are probably similar.

Womens rowing doesn't add to a FBS school, but they have to do it.  Boat houses are expensive and those teams are massive.  SDSU has equestrian which is a money pit.

Certainly both the scholarship number and the salary differential are controversial. 

[UND-1]

6 minutes ago, northernraider said:

Likely the same as a domestic one. The cost of a student is fixed, no matter from North Dakota, other states, or another country.  The only difference is, ND kids get a discounted rate instead of the full cost required. 

No.

[SIOUXFAN97]

8 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:

No, I'm not Faison.   Apparently very few here are willing to acknowledge what an extremely awkward situation this created for BF.  i guess he would've been hailed a hero on siouxsports for taking their money and then dumping the baseball program a year later.  

When the actual person with the money never contacted him, and it appears there were no follow up emails or calls, as I stated earlier I can't come down too hard on BF   

 

like someone said on here all faison had to do was forward this to brekke and move on...he didn't

[UND-1]

6 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Certainly both the scholarship number and the salary differential are controversial. 

Scholarships are maxed out.  Coaches salaries, recruiting budget, home game budget, apparel are all lacking huge in basketball.

[northernraider]

5 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

No.

so why does it cost more to educate someone not from North Dakota?

[SiouxVolley]

What Faison failed to do was make tough PR decisions early.  When UND gat the Big Sky bid, baseball and men's golf should have been cut then.  Instead, Dodson is hired, the homerun derby winner happens, the USC wins happen.  When the program most believes in itself through hard work, the news is sprung on them.  IMHO, Faison was waiting years for a budget cut so he had a legitimate optics to cut baseball when a reason, the Big Sky, existed years ago.

 

Kelley was probably part of the problem too, as he didn't want heat from cutting sports.  A failure of leadership bites BF.  Kelley didn't want to appear anti-athletics so hard decisions weren't made under his tenure.  Faison in fairness probably had to a bite his lip.

 

[SiouxVolley]

17 minutes ago, northernraider said:

so why does it cost more to educate someone not from North Dakota?

Tuition is different depending on state of residency or foreign.  Scholarship costs reflect that.  Minnesota residents get reciprocity as do many western states.

[UNDBIZ]

Foreign students also require additional paperwork, monitoring, and student services. 

[Siouxphan27]

7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

like someone said on here all faison had to do was forward this to brekke and move on...he didn't

Yes, he could have done that.  And then what?  What does the "move on" part consist of?  Did Brekke know as much as Faison knew at that time about the future of baseball?   Let's say he did, then he has the same two options as Faison had;  tell the young man with a rich dad that baseball is inevitably going to be cut.  I'm not sure if that is the best way to basically break the news to the general public.  Or option two, he looks them straight in the face, takes their money that is designated for baseball, (not just an "athletic dept." donation as others have added to their posts to cloud the issue here) and dumps baseball a year later.

It was a unique situation.    If Faison has ever ignored general athletic dept donation emails, or sport-specific donations that were designated for sports that were not inevitably going to be cut, i'd be outraged like others are. 

 

 

[SiouxVolley]

1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said:

Yes, he could have done that.  And then what?  What does the "move on" part consist of?  Did Brekke know as much as Faison knew at that time about the future of baseball?   Let's say he did, then he has the same two options as Faison had;  tell the young man with a rich dad that baseball is inevitably going to be cut.  I'm not sure if that is the best way to basically break the news to the general public.  Or option two, he looks them straight in the face, takes their money that is designated for baseball, (not just an "athletic dept." donation as others have added to their posts to cloud the issue here) and dumps baseball a year later.

It was a unique situation.    If Faison has ever ignored general athletic dept donation emails, or sport-specific donations that were designated for sports that were not inevitably going to be cut, i'd be outraged like others are. 

 

 

And I would at that at the feet of Kelley with Faison complicit in it.  Kelley didn't want to do anything that would cause student to unfurl banners at hockey games demanding he resign.  But not making the difficult but needed decisions at the time, Kelley's administration lacked integrity and nobody knew where they stood.  Now they now.  Seen the same situations in the  corporate world.  Lack of integrity causes chaos.

[bincitysioux]

15 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:

Do you commend his communication skills (lack thereof), arrogance and ignorance?

Great qualities for an AD.

I am not a "big time" donor, nor am I a former athlete.  So I suspect my "access" is the same as any other average Alum/Champions Club Member.  In the 7 or 8 years he's been here, I've probably emailed him half a dozen times, and he's replied to every one of them within a day.  One time he even sent me a hand written note when I voiced my concerns over the direction of the football program.  I've sat next to him on a football charter and shaken hands with him at a basketball game.  Pretty confident he wouldn't know who I was if I ran into him tomorrow, but in my experiences with him his communication skills are just fine.  

My biggest complaint about Faison is how long he's left the men's basketball program fall into the pits.  But with all the budget cutting going on by the higher ups above him, maybe that is why Brian Jones appears to be finding himself in the rare circumstance of entering a season with only one year remaining on his contract?  

As just some rube on a message board though, I am not 100% sure how to quantify great qualities of an AD, but I would point out that Faison handled the break up of the WCHA about as well as could possibly be expected, he got UND into the Big Sky (which rejected multiple other former NCC members),  he got the High Performance Center built, he's raised the football budget to be competitive within the Big Sky, he's overseen a national championship in hockey.

Seems like he hasn't completely run this place into the ground....................

His predecessors biggest accomplishment was doing 50+ push-ups on the sidelines at football games.  Did that make Buning a great communicator?

[bincitysioux]

Bottom line is baseball should have been cut years ago.  Women's hockey should be next.  Whether or not the state of ND is flush with cash, or running a deficit and demanding cuts, UND is better off without these sports.

[darell1976]

Maybe I missed it but just how much money is going to be saved by eliminating baseball and men's golf? 

[UNDBIZ]

3 hours ago, darell1976 said:

Maybe I missed it but just how much money is going to be saved by eliminating baseball and men's golf? 

About $750-800,000

[darell1976]

32 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

About $750-800,000

But isn't the school like millions in the hole.

[UNDBIZ]

16 minutes ago, darell1976 said:

But isn't the school like millions in the hole.

Which is why studio 1, music therapy, and other programs are being reduced/removed.

[Sioux63]

Everyone is saying women's hockey maybe cut next. What about soccer? Granted expenses are higher for hockey vs soccer. Soccer isn't a core sport in Big Sky. The soccer program has a large roster in comparison to most D1 programs. 22 girls are getting some sort of scholarship, the rest are walk-ons. As a side note, the players have been going to BF and DI for a couple of years to report some questionable coaching methods by head coach. Some of which could get university in hot water.  Yet, BF renews coaches contact even though he's only won a handful of games. Soccer might not be worth the headache for BF anymore? Grand Forks is Hockey town USA, not a soccer town.

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

11 minutes ago, Sioux63 said:

Grand Forks is Hockey town USA, not a soccer town.

Ever driven by Bringewatt Park?  If interest tracks participation as youths age, soccer may someday enjoy more players and fans than football.  A healthy and competitive D1 program is an asset.