NDUS Budget Cuts (changed name to be system-wide)

[jdub27]

Just now, Teeder11 said:

Murphy has done that every year for as long as I can remember OSU coming to the Ralph. This is nothing new, folks. Just because Brad finally knows who Dr. Murphy is, makes it news to Brad, I guess.

Maybe Brad is just laying preemptive groundwork for a conspiracy theory even though the IAC is not making any decisions this time around?

[UNDvince97-01]

Brad needs to take a deep breath on this stuff.  

It's very un-brad-like of him lately.

[Teeder11]

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Maybe Brad is just laying preemptive groundwork for a conspiracy theory even though the IAC is not making any decisions this time around?

Certainly within the realm of possibilities.  

[cberkas]

31 minutes ago, YAWNSON said:

Saw that also... Here's his profile on und's website.    https://und.edu/faculty/eric.murphy

Can't fault him on cheering for a school he went to.

[Milford torgerson]

5 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

The schools receive funding based on a formula.  The formula is being reduced by a flat percentage for all schools.  UND is not being cut 30-40%.  The world isn't ending.

Good point.  I think it's 20% for everyone

[nodak651]

35 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Can't fault him on cheering for a school he went to.

I think he should support his employer, imo.  He especially should not have been on the iac if he is not invested in und athletics.

[Teeder11]

23 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

I think he should support his employer, imo.  He especially should not have been on the iac if he is not invested in und athletics.

He's invested. Just free to cheer for or against whomever he wishes. 

[nodak651]

So you think it's OK to have someone who cheers against UND to be on the iac?  He obviously doesn't care about UND that much.  Perhaps he was more worried about being PC than cutting sports, something that would have been better for und athletics in the long run, because after all, OSU will be doing well either way.

[Cratter]

22 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

So you think it's OK to have someone who cheers against UND to be on the iac?  He obviously doesn't care about UND that much.

So if an offspring of an IAC member goes to Bemidji State to play hockey, one has to cheer for UND over BSU in your eyes otherwise they suddenly "dont care much about UND"?

[Siouxphan27]

I'm just glad he was there.  Without him, the place would've seemed awfully empty with only 209 in attendance. 

[nodak651]

37 minutes ago, Cratter said:

So if an offspring of an IAC member goes to Bemidji State to play hockey, one has to cheer for UND over BSU in your eyes otherwise they suddenly "dont care much about UND"?

Does his daughter play for osu?  No?  I think that's kind of a straw man argument.  This isn't something that I really want to argue about.  I just think that UND should be the most important priority to anyone that was on the iac, especially after seeing what awful decisions they made.

[Cratter]

9 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Does his daughter play for osu?  No?  I think that's kind of a straw man argument.  This isn't something that I really want to argue about.

So there are exceptions to your statement? Where you draw the line of acceptability is different than others.

Straw man or not you're assuming because he is cheering for his former school vs his current employer he doesn't care much about UND. 

[moser53]

On February 24, 2017 at 8:32 AM, geaux_sioux said:

So they're planning to take the already land locked and over crowded NDSU campus and cram damn near double the students into it? That's some strong coffee you've been drinking.

Also, UND was never D3. 

I know UND was never D3 I was trying to say they want us to be D3. Also I'm trying to figure out the push by people in this state and by Higher Ed to put UND into the Summit and Missouri Valley. There have been no favors given to UND for 20 years. Yes some buildings have gone up but if it was all bad it wouldn't be a very good con would it. 

I have no names or proof, moles are in GF Government, UND staff and on this board. I guess I'm a conspiracy type of person. Your right I love coffee.

[geaux_sioux]

7 minutes ago, moser53 said:

I know UND was never D3 I was trying to say they want us to be D3. Also I'm trying to figure out the push by people in this state and by Higher Ed to put UND into the Summit and Missouri Valley. There have been no favors given to UND for 20 years. Yes some buildings have gone up but if it was all bad it wouldn't be a very good con would it. 

I have no names or proof, moles are in GF Government, UND staff and on this board. I guess I'm a conspiracy type of person. Your right I love coffee.

I leave @siouxvolley to this.

[fightingsioux4life]

22 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I think he should support his employer, imo.  He especially should not have been on the iac if he is not invested in und athletics.

So now we are going to regulate which teams UND employees are allowed to cheer for? Baloney.

What Murphy does on his own time is his own business. He is paid to teach and do research. As long as he does those things, I don't think anyone should care about which teams he supports.

[fightingsioux4life]

22 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:

Brad needs to take a deep breath on this stuff.  

It's very un-brad-like of him lately.

Maybe Schlossman has a personal connection to WH that is not publically known? I don't know how else to explain his thin-skinned defensiveness regarding WH.

[fightingsioux4life]

On ‎2‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 5:27 AM, moser53 said:

Heard Al Carlson on the radio yesterday say if you think this round of cuts were bad wait until the next round of cuts. I'm on the radio on KNOX and KFGO saying things that I believe to be the truth. The big money in this state has no ties to UND. They want the other school to be at 25,000 and this one to go back to D3 and have 8000 students. UND has alums with money but they don't control the politics in ND the other school does. 

The one thing Grand Forks has had to rely on thru some tough times like the flood and the base going from 15000 to a population of 2000 is UND. Now the economic engine that UND is to GF in in jeopardy. I asked a radio talk host on KNOX where is all the Legacy money he said you can't blame that on the Repbs the citizens did that. I was cut off before I could ask the follow up question of who was behind the Legacy Fund vote and what were there motives.

David Flynn UND professor is on KNOX taking calls on Thursdays I asked him about Grand Sky and what kind of impact it could have on the GF economy he said there is no indication this will be a Hugh thing. UND is a Hugh thing in GF. If UND is cut by 30 to 40% of it's current size The GF economy may not recover. 

Fargo is now taking programs from other schools like The State School in Whaprton and I've heard the people in Whapeton are very angry. Jamestown College has a Physical Therapy School in Fargo. What's next Jamestown College Med School Jamestown College Law School. Then it could be called 4college instead of tri college. Get the picture. You can save the people in this state from spending years in that place called Grand Forks. Up in the cold corner of the state. Where I live. Whats going on with these cuts is something we should be angry about. I do not feel the people on this board are taking what's going with  seriously. UND in the Flagship and the other guys are Moo U. Moo U is about to bite you in the but .The last laugh may or will be in Fargo.

Iif NDSU adds hockey now there is no longer 3O00 hockey tickets sold in FM and UND is downsized by 30% and the GF economy and population takes a hit who is going to buy the hockey tickets? The people that make good money  at UND who are forced to leave where are going to make 70  plus grand in GF? There gone. How all of this financial mess in this state has played out makes me wonder was this the plan all along. Google North Dakota on  being one the most corrupt states in the US and think about UND.

Wow, you have quite the dystopian vision for UND and Grand Forks, don't you?

UND ain't going anywhere, and neither is Grand Forks. Both were around long before "Clueless Al" Carlson and both will be around long after he is gone.

[darell1976]

32 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So now we are going to regulate which teams UND employees are allowed to cheer for? Baloney.

What Murphy does on his own time is his own business. He is paid to teach and do research. As long as he does those things, I don't think anyone should care about which teams he supports.

Unless they cheer for the Bison.

[moser53]

They talk about reshaping the University it should be raping the U. It's gone way beyond reshaping UND. About 1000 students down and counting. Staff and students fed up and want out 119 sign up for early out. What's next Accreditation decline? Where is the Legacy money? There's Legacy High in Bismarck and Legacy Elementary in West Fargo. Is ND really broke? Stop covering your eyes. You guys just take this crap as gospel no fight.

No anger on this board there would be on other boards.

 

[homer]

2 hours ago, moser53 said:

They talk about reshaping the University it should be raping the U. It's gone way beyond reshaping UND. About 1000 students down and counting. Staff and students fed up and want out 119 sign up for early out. What's next Accreditation decline? Where is the Legacy money? There's Legacy High in Bismarck and Legacy Elementary in West Fargo. Is ND really broke? Stop covering your eyes. You guys just take this crap as gospel no fight.

No anger on this board there would be on other boards.

 

I think there was room for the university to be reshaped.  Does it hurt to have to go to this extent, yes, but this could also be an opportunity to step back and determine how students want to take classes today, not continuing to do things the same way they've been done for years just because.  With recent investments in the med school and engineering school, along with others, UND isn't going anywhere but it needs to adjust/change. 

I'm sure there is plenty to change in academics and not being in a DII bus league anymore, there is plenty to change in athletics and come out of this stronger.  Leadership just needs to do its job. 

[UNDBIZ]

3 hours ago, moser53 said:

They talk about reshaping the University it should be raping the U. It's gone way beyond reshaping UND. About 1000 students down and counting. Staff and students fed up and want out 119 sign up for early out. What's next Accreditation decline? Where is the Legacy money? There's Legacy High in Bismarck and Legacy Elementary in West Fargo. Is ND really broke? Stop covering your eyes. You guys just take this crap as gospel no fight.

Schools with the name Legacy have nothing to do with the state's Legacy Fund.  Although some in Higher Ed think the Legacy Fund should be used for Higher Ed, don't expect Higher Ed to ever get any money from it.  Power figures in the legislature plan to save it and eventually use it for more tax relief.

[moser53]

15 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

Schools with the name Legacy have nothing to do with the state's Legacy Fund.  Although some in Higher Ed think the Legacy Fund should be used for Higher Ed, don't expect Higher Ed to ever get any money from it.  Power figures in the legislature plan to save it and eventually use it for more tax relief.

Schools with the Legacy name have nothing to do with the legacy name yes even I know that but you never really know where the money is do you. I forgot one other other Legacy that they like throwing in our face to mock us. Legany Wealth Management in Fargo and Bismarck on the radio every Sunday Morning 8:30 to 9:30. The  Legacy name is put out there to remind us everyday how we're getting screwed. Today's Herald headline Walking Away comments from longtime Professor Gordon Iseminger says what's going on at UND a lot better than I have. He's disgusted, disappointed, and sickened. We all should be. But like everything else politics come into play. You guys on the right buy all the arguments that is was unforseeen circumstances that cause this. I don't. The big money in this state is in Fargo and they want to make NDSU something really special. UND is competition and there was a comment I read on Bisonville about UND now in the same leagues as SU. He said FU  go away there is only room for one D1 school in this state. The money people in Fargo feel the same way. Open your eyes fellas. 

[nodak651]

2 hours ago, moser53 said:

Schools with the Legacy name have nothing to do with the legacy name yes even I know that but you never really know where the money is do you. I forgot one other other Legacy that they like throwing in our face to mock us. Legany Wealth Management in Fargo and Bismarck on the radio every Sunday Morning 8:30 to 9:30. The  Legacy name is put out there to remind us everyday how we're getting screwed. Today's Herald headline Walking Away comments from longtime Professor Gordon Iseminger says what's going on at UND a lot better than I have. He's disgusted, disappointed, and sickened. We all should be. But like everything else politics come into play. You guys on the right buy all the arguments that is was unforseeen circumstances that cause this. I don't. The big money in this state is in Fargo and they want to make NDSU something really special. UND is competition and there was a comment I read on Bisonville about UND now in the same leagues as SU. He said FU  go away there is only room for one D1 school in this state. The money people in Fargo feel the same way. Open your eyes fellas. 

NDSU is facing budget cuts too, FYI...

[moser53]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

NDSU is facing budget cuts too, FYI...

Cuts at NDSU permanent. Do you believe that? NDSU is Governor Burgums baby. Cuts at UND are hear to stay as long as this  current group are in charge.

[gfhockey]

The gobc is going to make sore moser is wrong 

 

we have had several late nite meetings filled with cocktails with bergum